Nov 18-19: George's JFK Special

[BadBoy]

Thu 11-18-2004:
This special show looking into the JFK assassination will feature researchers Jim Fetzer (Hour 2) January Jones (Hour 3) and Bruce Adamson (Hour 4).

[gormworm]

Earlier interviews on this topic, with these guests:

Go to:
http://www.mysteriesofthemind.com/Archives/2004/archives200410.htm

Click on:
*** Friday, October 29 - Larry Nichols, - James Fetzer (Windows Media Player)


_*the worm continues to look for past interviews with January Jones, and Bruce Adamson*_

[possom]

Sounds like it will be a good show. I am leaving for a weeks vacation with the family tonight, so I will be listening to the show on the road.

[gormworm]

Bruce Adamson's Web Page This site is devoted to the work of Bruce Adamson, who has published a JFK Assassination Timeline Chart and a book on DeMohrenschildt.

Information links page:

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/18th_Issue/consp_links.html

[gormworm]

January Jones from American Wedding, January Jones plays
Cadence Flaherty (Alyson Hannigan's little sister) in American Wedding.
http://www.tribute.ca/bio.asp?id=11111


Now, ... to MY mind, .. the mystery of the J.F.K. assassination and January Jones is .....
.... What does January Jones have to do with the J.F.K. assassination?

This should be an interesting night.

[gormworm]

http://www.januaryjones.com/

Our MOVIE SCRIPT PAGE features a synopsis and treatment for 2044: JACKIE'S STORY by January Jones.

You can also listen to a LIVE INTERVIEW with JANUARY JONES on the internet by by going to our "Meet Miss Jones" page.* Then select from several live interviews and lean back, relax and listen to an amazing tale of love, money and murder!!! We hope that you will agree that, "Ms. Jones' makes a most compelling case for Jackie and Aristotle's involvement in the Kennedy Assassination."

[gormworm]

ONLY ONE uninterrupted HALF HOUR with each guest?
Then phone calls?!

_*sigh*_

So much for any in-depth information.
How can you get into anything very deeply in only 30 minutes?

Most callers are only really interested in hearing their own voices on the air.
Usually don't have any specific, intelligent questions to ask based on what the guest REALLY knows.

Three interviews shot to Hell.

JMHO.

A full four hours, .. with 3 guests in a round table discussion ... with callers in the last hour would be great.

Oh well.

[BadBoy]

Last year's JFK roundtable was better and longer, George went an extra hour and no first hour news/open lines - so he had a full 5hours for that one! The guests included guys like Jim Marrs too, I don't recognize tonight's guests at all.

[gormworm]

I'm trying not to pre-judge .... trying not to pre-judge .... trying not to pre-judge ....

Oh, heck with it.

Tonight's format sucks.

[BadBoy]

Doesn't sound like a typical JFK expert to me:

JANUARY JONES VITAL STATISTICS - AGE: 50 & Lying, HEIGHT: 5' 7" & Shrinking, WEIGHT: Classified & Bloating, RELIGION: Psychic Hotline, MARITAL STATUS: Widowed & Re-married 30 yrs & Holding, HOBBIES: Manicures, Golf & Shopping, VICES: Secondary Smoker & Chronic Chocoholic!

http://www.januaryjones.com/MeetMissJones_files/jan3-147-200.GIF

[gormworm]

I don't recognize tonight's guests at all.


Have you heard of January Jones?
Is she a hottie?

[gormworm]

Is she a hottie?


Doesn't sound like a typical JFK expert to me:

JANUARY JONES VITAL STATISTICS - AGE: 50 & Lying, HEIGHT: 5' 7" & Shrinking, WEIGHT: Classified & Bloating, RELIGION: Psychic Hotline, MARITAL STATUS: Widowed & Re-married 30 yrs & Holding, HOBBIES: Manicures, Golf & Shopping, VICES: Secondary Smoker & Chronic Chocoholic!


Okay. .. Okay.
I should have known better.

[gormworm]

January Jones
Photo:
http://www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/stars/january_jones.jpg

Date of Birth: January 5, 1978

Born in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, one of January Jones’ first jobs as a teenager was working behind the counter at Dairy Queen. After making the move to Los Angeles, the blonde beauty soon made her acting debut with a small role in the independent film All The Rage (1999), starring Jeff Daniels and Anna Paquin, followed by a guest appearance on an episode of the Fox TV series Get Real (1999). She played another small role in her first major motion picture, The Glass House (2001), starring Leelee Sobieski. Jones landed a slightly larger part in the crime comedy Bandits (2001) starring Bruce Willis, then managed a lead in the independent film Taboo (2002), opposite Nick Stahl.

[gormworm]

January Jones Photo:
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0328828/AW_2302_K0721_03_rgb.jpg

[BadBoy]

January Jones Photo:
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0328828/AW_2302_K0721_03_rgb.jpg



Thats not the 50year old January Jones on the show tonight - that girl is a different one!

[BadBoy]

During the bottom of the hour break, the local news on KOGO-AM radio just mentioned Alex Jones and his anti-Arnold campaign!

[crossfire]

Just popping in to say hello.

[gormworm]

Doesn't sound like a typical JFK expert to me:

JANUARY JONES VITAL STATISTICS - AGE: 50 & Lying, HEIGHT: 5' 7" & Shrinking, WEIGHT: Classified & Bloating, RELIGION: Psychic Hotline, MARITAL STATUS: Widowed & Re-married 30 yrs & Holding, HOBBIES: Manicures, Golf & Shopping, VICES: Secondary Smoker & Chronic Chocoholic!


A Jackie-O gossip, trash-bash expert?
Sex, love triangles, and murder?

Coffee, chocolate, and smut paperbacks.

This could be fun.

[gormworm]

Just popping in to say hello.

Hi. :)

[civilian]

Hi Crew!

Sounds like a good show, hey gorm!

The lone gun man, ya right... :rolleyes:

[gormworm]

During the bottom of the hour break, the local news on KOGO-AM radio just mentioned Alex Jones and his anti-Arnold campaign!

I haven't heard Alex's latest.

Is this about opposing the constitutional changes that would allow Arnold to run for president in 4 years?

Or is Alex upset about Arnold's handling of the California situation?

Was Arnold a participant in last July's Bohemian Grove Sacrifice of Care Ceremony?

:eek:

[BadBoy]

Now George just mentioned Alex Jones campaign against Arnold and mentioned his new website: http://arnoldexposed.com/

[civilian]

Hey George is mentioning Alex's new website!

www.arnoldexposed.com

:)

[gormworm]

Thanks for clearing that up, George. :D

According to the Weekly World News, .. we all ready have Space Aliens in Congress.
Maybe Arnold (and a few machine guns) would balance things out a little bit.

At the very least, .. it might make for a fun movie.

[BadBoy]

I haven't heard Alex's latest.

Is this Was Arnold a participant in last July's Bohemian Grove Sacrifice of Care Ceremony?
:eek:

On the website Alex Jones lists:
Arnold was tapped for the Gubernatorial run at the occult-entrenched Bohemian Grove and rubbed elbows with the illuminati at the Rothchilds family home .

[gormworm]

Hey George is mentioning Alex's new website!

www.arnoldexposed.com

:)


Hey, Civilian! :D

Yeah.
Maybe George will have both Alex and Arnold on during the same broadcast.

Fantasy, .. I know.
At least George has promised to have Alex on again soon. :D

[gormworm]

Thats not the 50year old January Jones on the show tonight - that girl is a different one!

Hey.
This is RADIO.

She can look like anything I can imagine. :D

Reality?
Who needs it?

[gormworm]

On the website Alex Jones lists:
Arnold was tapped for the Gubernatorial run at the occult-entrenched Bohemian Grove and rubbed elbows with the illuminati at the Rothchilds family home .

"Rubbing elbows?"

Isn't that how certain space aliens do it?

'Sounds kinky.

[crossfire]

"Rubbing elbows?"

Isn't that how certain space aliens do it?

'Sounds kinky.

I think that was from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show."

[gormworm]

I don't mean to "blow off" Alex Jones's observations concerning the connection between Arnold Schwarzenegger and the New World Order.

I guess I've just had too much reality this week.

It's Doctor Demento time for the worm.
I haven't had my ration of smiles today.

I'm recording this program.
I may check back in a little later on.

I'm hopeful that the J.F.K. info might turn out to be great after all.
(although in the format that George has described for tonight, .. I doubt it)

[gormworm]

I think that was from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show."

I seem to remember some production that was a lame imitation of Douglas Adam's "Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy".
In it, .. an Earthling human was being introduced to aliens from another world .. and was warned by his traveling companion not to shake hands with the aliens, because their sex organs are in their hands.

I don't remember what production it was.

It's late.
I'm wiped out.

G'night, all.

Enjoy the show.

[gormworm]

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_*the worm looks back in to see how the discussion is going*_
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Too much, .. too fast.
Huh, gang?

Kind of a "rapid-fire information thing," huh?

Each 6 words out of the guests mouth was a small encapsulation of something that could have easily filled 10 or 15 minutes of great radio.

Is it just me?

Or is tonight's program kind of like watching the entire original Star Wars Movie Trilogy (3 x 2 hour movies) in less than 3 hours, .. on DVD, ... with the whole thing going by in fast forward scan mode?

If you blink ... you miss vital information.

Art Bell always told us that the great advantage of doing a 5 hour late night radio interview program .. was that you could explore a subject in depth, .. in a detailed way that just can't be done on television, or other forms of journalism.

Art had a point.

Oh well.

Art is Art.
George is George.
And 30 minutes of spewing information before taking phone calls is way too short a time for each guest.

Like they say:
Different strokes ....
CHOP! ..CHOP! ..CHOP! ..CHOP! ..CHOP!

[gormworm]

The guest isn't going to have enough time available to even HEAR what the caller is asking, ... let alone give the detailed answer that the question deserves.

This is a CRAZY format for this subject matter.

Oh well.

[BadBoy]

Yeah this is like 3 programs shortened down to 40 minutes each! Either do a roundtable with them all together and a longer full 5 hour show or do one 3hour program with each guest separately.

[gormworm]

George is attempting to "wrap things up" with the first guest.

It sounds like George simply DOESN'T CARE about learning anything concerning the case.

"This last caller just goes to show that the conspiracy debate will just go on, and on, and on ..." -- George Noory

Yeah.
So, why take the time to even discuss things properly?

This should have been THREE different programs.
FOUR HOURS with each guest.

We’ve got a gold mine of fascinating information with this first guest, .. and George is blowing him off in less than an hour.

What a waste of a great guest.


Oh well.

At least there's the Merklinger interview from last month.

Tonight has "wet my appetite".
Tomorrow I'll listen to the Alex archive of this guy.

[gormworm]

" .. You'll never look at the (J.F.K. assassination) case in the same way again." -- George Noory

As near as I can tell, ... we're not looking at the case now.

We didn't really look at anything that the last hour's guest was showing us.
Maybe the idea here is to make the whole program fly by so fast, .. that we won't have the opportunity to realize what we're missing by not really listening to what anyone is saying.

_*sigh*_

Oh well.
I tried to listen tonight.
I really did.

It’s just impossible to get anything of real value out of the material when we’re just breezing past everything.

[BadBoy]

January Jones seems like a fluff guest, the type Babs Simpson used be stuck with!

[Skosh]

What was that about George stepping on the wrong pedal?

[gormworm]

worm’s eye view:

I wasn’t awake to hear the segment with Bruce Adamson , .. and that is very telling!
Because the J.F.K. assassination involves HARD EVIDENCE and international conspiracies what have been in the process of getting studied and investigated for 40 years now.

IT’S NOT BORING!
IT’S NOT THE SAME OLD THING!

The way that George blew through the first hour ...
• not listening to much of anything that Jim Fetzer had to say...
• not allowing any time for Fetzer to cover the details of his investigation and why each piece of information was significant
.. was an insult to Jim Fetzer and his work!

"This last caller just goes to show that the conspiracy debate will just go on, and on, and on. (an I don’t want to hear it)”- George Noory

You’ve insulted the guest, .. and you’ve insulted my interest in what the guest has to say, George.

By putting on January Jones and her gossip - trash about the Jackie - Onassis - Kennedy love triangle ... (an over simplification of a situation if ever there was one) .. right after blowing off Jim Fetzer’s contribution to a LEGITIMATE 40 year investigation ... you’ve told all of us that you think that a piece of soap opera trash - gossip about Jackie Kennedy’s & J.F.K.’s sex life is just as valid as 40 years of research done by thousands of the worlds top forensic experts.

OF COURSE I slept through the final hour!
What thinking person wouldn’t!

I can’t speak for Bruce Adamson.
The first 2 hours of the program were handled so appallingly, .. I never got the chance to remain awake to hear anything he might have had to say.

But Jim Fetzer is owed an apology!
And so is the Coast audience!

Jim Fetzer’s wonderfully detailed, thoughtful, and intelligent research based on 40 years into investigations of the J.F.K. assassination deserves a full 4 or 5 hours of attention.

Not the less than one hour “bum’s rush” that he was given.

Alex Merklinger is intelligent enough to give this subject the due time and attention it deserves.
I could have been listening to his Jim Fetzer interview.
Instead I waste my time listening to this.

Why? .. why? .. Why do I bother? .. What’s the point? ...

Someone with some interviewing skill could easily have turned January Jones’s sex crazed trash talk into a very entertaining 4 hours as well.
The forensic sciences is obviously way over her head.
And from George’s comments, .. it seems to be way over his head as well.

Maybe George should just forget about doing any serious investigating into anything, .. and give the January Joneses of the world his full attention for a full 4 hour program.

George certainly seemed to have more fun with the smut than the facts behind the J.F.K. assassination.

As Jones put it when George asked about her movie script:”Speculating is easy. Anyone can speculate.”

Fetzer’s material isn’t speculation, George.
Can’t you tell the difference between hard physical evidence and opinion yet?

Sheesh!

What a waste of such potentially great material.
What a wasted evening.

I don’t want to go through THAT again.

[Gummer]

How many times can this be rehashed? It's over - finished - curtains - John's been shipped back for recycling... :eek:

Now give me good current on going conspiracy (read - The Gormworm Chronicles) now you've got something! :D

Gummy

[possom]

I listened to the show on the road. It could have been such a great show, but man did George talk too much. Every time the guests were getting to something interesting whamo George would jump in and change the subject, ughhhh I was so frustrated. I think the last guest should be booked for the full show sometime- he knew his stuff.

[gormworm]

How many times can this be rehashed? It's over - finished - curtains - John's been shipped back for recycling... :eek:

Now give me good current on going conspiracy (read - The Gormworm Chronicles) now you've got something! :D

Gummy

Thanks, Burt.

I wish I could be reading that stuff myself.
But the stuff that i posted over here is still "in limbo".
And the stuff at "That Other Place" is still (maybe) over at "That Other Place" where I no longer have access.
All of that stuff is gone as far as I’m concerned.

What bumms me out about last night's program .. was that Jim Fetzer and Bruce Adamson seemed to have veritable GOLD MINES of new J.F.K. evidence.

And George (or whom-ever it was who set up this program) didn't provide the guests with enough time to actually share the new material.

Hopefully, Alex Merklinger will interview Bruce Adamson in the near future ... or else maybe I'll be lucky enough to locate some past interview that Merklinger and/or Whitley Strieber did with him.

I see our current problems with the "Patriot Act" and the alleged "War on Terror" as being a continuing of American history.

J.F.K., Bobby Kennedy and others were murdered by elements of our own government, .. and the media covered it up.
Just like the "Terrorist Attacks" of 9-11 were pulled off by elements of our own government, .. and the media covered it up.

People can say that looneys like me who say these things are crazy, .. and that there's no evidence to back up our claims all they want.

The truth is, .. there is no evidence to back up their claims.
• It was physically impossible for Oswald to have shot J.F.K..
• It was physically impossible for Sirhan Sirhan to have shot Bobby Kennedy.
• It was physically impossible for Islamic Terrorists to have flown those U.S. Air force cargo planes into the W.T.C. towers.
• It was physically impossible for Islamic Terrorists to have shot that scud missile into the Pentagon.

And on and on and on.

It looks like:
• the voters who were lied to in this past election,.. folks who's touch-screen vote were registered as votes for Kerry or Bush .. no matter who they actually voted for ...
• the military personnel who were lied to about 9-11 and the current situation in Iraq,..
• the parents of high school & college kids who were lied to about the coming draft of their children into the Selective service system this coming summer
• the Reno tax payers who were lied to about the Reno train trench project here in Reno .. that has turned out to be a disguise for underground Nazi style "detention camps" ... being prepared for God knows what ...
• the gun owners who have not been told about the assault weapons ammo that they've been stocking up on and putting in their closets being highly radio active ...
... all of these folks are mad as Hell and not willing to take it anymore.

I don't know what's going to happen.
I really don't.

I really hope that a civil war isn't going to break out.
But I don't know.

Every night there are sirens and gunfire at three a.m..
Every morning there is no real information on the news about who was arrested, .. what they have been charged with, .. nor why.

I drive through neighborhoods, .. and see homes with the doors and windows kicked in.
Homes that had families with children living there days before.

What happened?

The neighbors saw the military guys in the riot gear with the shot guns and machine guns in the middle of the night ... kicking in the doors and windows at 3 a.m..
But there's been nothing in the news the following day.

What the Hell is happening to our country?
Why aren't more people talking about what's going on?

Why did George have experts on the investigation of the J.F.K. assassination on his program ... and then not allow them enough time to actually tell us anything?

_*the worm shakes his head*_

"May you live in interesting times" is the famous curse.

Interesting? .... Interesting?

"Strange days, indeed. Most peculiar, Momma." -- John Lennon

[Alpha]

How many times can this be rehashed? It's over - finished - curtains - John's been shipped back for recycling... :eek:

Now give me good current on going conspiracy (read - The Gormworm Chronicles) now you've got something! :D

Gummy

Hey BG,

Understand where you may be coming from, yet WADR I disagree.

In order to attempt to understand any 'new and improved' manipulation, misrepresentation, outright lie in plain site, I think it's important that we look and learn from the historical testing and evolution of such activity, to enable us to understand what may be happening today.

Now, I could be misunderstanding, however it seems like you're saying that forget any past history, archeology, biology, scientific findings and/or the evolution of those and any journey to truth found...let's just look at what is now, new ....mebbe I'm not getting what you're saying.

Perhaps if topics like Northwoods (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html), Blue Book (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/bluebook.html). Pearl Harbour (http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/pearlharbor.htm) .....just to name a few, were more widely understood and discussed, the 'conspiracy' viewpoint would not be mocked and ridiculed as much as it seems to be by the majority of blue pill folks.

What happened or didn't happen that Nov day to JFK, is tragic, yet perhaps mute, however extremely important.... Why, who, how is integral.....yet most equally if not more important, is the reaction and conditioning of the people, who lived through these events, reacted to the events as they were told, how this and other events formed a basis/foundation of future viewpoint, reaction, acceptance/not....and the future actions of those in power.

Another experiment for the ants on the farm, for the benefit of those who think they control and own those ants....likely I'd say.

That's why I feel it's important that we never give up searching for the truth....if we do....they win, even though one could argue, they already have....JMHO

Hope this made sense.. :)

[gormworm]

Personally, .. I found George's comment to Jim Fetzer toward the end of the first hour .... the one where George was attempting to hurry along and quickly wrap up the attempt at a discussion concerning rifle bullet ballistics with Fetzer and the first caller .. to have been EXTREMELY frustrating.

If you don't want to discuss something ... why invite the guest, .. and pretend to conduct an interview?

Talk about propaganda!

PRETENDING to host a talk show that investigates new evidence in the J.F.K. assassination?

While planning, in advance, to allow no time for intelligent discussion?!

Give me a break!

[Alpha]

.........
Talk about propaganda!

PRETENDING to host a talk show that investigates new evidence in the J.F.K. assassination?

While planning, in advance, to allow no time for intelligent discussion?!

Give me a break!

And this surprises you?! ;) :D ...."oh well....."