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Topper
10-31-2008, 08:33 AM
I've never read James Bramford's book on the CIA but from point of reference he nailed that title down. I'm having trouble reconstructing a time frame
from 1948 thru 1952 where its almost impossible to figure out what the covert alphabet agencies were doing before the NSA was born.

I have a book by Nigel West, "The Sigint Secrets" that helps a little when exposing or explaining the Organizational break down.
The CIA was over three groups ...
1) U.S. Army Intel/Security Command (Arlington, Vint Hill Farm & 2 Rock Ranch, CA)
2) U.S. Naval Group (Wash DC, Sugar Grove West Virginia & Winter Harbor, MA)
3) USAF Electronic Security Command (Kelly AFB San Antonio, Buckley AFB)

NSA Bases were Yakima, Washington and Kent Island, Virginia

National Reconnaisance Office/CIA was Sunnyside, California

Knowing this I understand why I get into so much trouble with the alphabet.

My question? Where has all the archives gone between 1948 to 1952???

I'm missing a piece of the puzzle that will help me determine what actually happened to a plane load of military men who somehow ended up in covert service on July 21 of 1951.

Topper
10-31-2008, 08:44 AM
Happy Halloween to all the spooks;)

DorieTesla'sMom
10-31-2008, 09:13 AM
That three letter place is the largest employer in Maryland! 40,000 spooky souls, counting the military support people.

It's funny because with numbers like that I've bumped into quite a few people who work there over the years. When the subject of people's jobs come up, people usually say, "I'm an accountant" or "I sell insurance". The people who work at places like Social Security say, "I work for Social Security"

But the spooks just say "I work for the government"- unless they change the subject real fast.
They're a lot more closed up than they were in the Reagan years. Back then I remember having lunch with a business associate and he was like, "oh my wife is a Russian translator at...."

After the Walker Spy Ring and other breeches, maybe their policy now is to simply not talk about their work.

Topper
11-02-2008, 07:06 PM
I found this tucked inside some documents that helps resolve any question about my biological father's OSS/CIA work history ... its rather funny to read because they couldn't figure out how to change the orders without the military noticing. (1948)

Having saved it as a PDF file I'll need to just type out what it says below:

FM JEP 35B/HQ AACS WASHDC 201900z
TO UWKBM/CO 102ND AACS SQ MCCHORD AFB WASH
INFO UWPH/CO 51ST AACS GP HAMILTON AFB CALIF
QXN/CO 1ST AACS WG LANGLEY AFB VA

AD GRNC

AACS 20-J-39 reference 102-15-j-05 unable to have Captain Kendall reassigned AACS upon recall as orders already issued. Suggest Officer request reassignment to AACS after recall.

CFM 20-J-39 102-15-J-04
Z0/2044Z Sept

Topper
11-03-2008, 11:00 AM
My sister isn't going to be happy over my discoveries about my biological father.
She'll want to divorce herself from the family if the spooks come out to threaten her and our family. I assure you that is the practice of silence the spooks most often use.

We've endured over 55 years worth of threats ... all because of my biological father's work history. Today I don't know any other lifestyle, its just another day in the life of Reilly.

I do have a lovely photo that is in the National Archives where my biological father is flying the ladies of the Woman's Army Air Corp to Alaska with Hap Arnold in Sept of 1949. Its titled "Army Flying Hostesses" Big Delta.
Talk about an awesome pun in black ops terms.

I also have a lovely photo by our mother's nursing class on graduation
snapped and archived as Official photograph U.S. Air Force, McChord AFB,
Washington before she went to work in the VA Mental Hospital.

As far as I can conclude its all part of covert study between the secret
projects from the Flying Tigers, the secret flying saucers and MKULTRA.

Its a very long story of how I became a Bluebird in 1953 ... before finding the Camp Fire Girls in 1956.

DorieTesla'sMom
11-03-2008, 11:54 AM
What do you think AACS stands for? Army Air Corps Service? It's interesting that in those days, you had to have a file to carry from one duty station or the other or risk not getting paid. Probably where all the acronyms started- if you don't know what it means, you probably don't need to know.


Ever read any Tom Clancy? I recall the person who ran a newspaper/candy concession at Langley being blind....interesting premise; a person who can perform a necessary service but not be able to snoop around the facility- apart from overhearing things now and then!

Topper
11-04-2008, 08:52 AM
AACS actually stands for Airways and Air Communications Services
headquartered out of Langley back during the years of 1947- God only knows
It was also listed or had a sub-listing under Weather

What's smacking me in the face is how I was approached in 1973 to
enlist in the military (Air Force) to get into forecasting the Weather by a women
who mysteriously found me in Spokane. She'd flown all over with a General
in his private plane as his Weather girl.

Thank goodness I chose to return back into College. Its just didn't feel right.

Topper
11-05-2008, 12:35 PM
I forgot to mention that the woman ended up married to the pilot of that General's private plane.
Which somehow ended their service ... returning back as civilians