Gdrive 2009

[SquidInk]

Sign me up. Sounds perfectly safe, & private, too. After all, only terrorists have anything to hide from Big Brother... :suspect:


LINK (http://www.tgdaily.com/html_tmp/content-view-41094-140.html)


Google Drive, or Gdrive as it is better known, has to be the most anticipated Google product so far. When it arrives, Gdrive will likely cause a major paradigm shift in how we use computers and bring Google one step closer to dethroning Windows on your desktop.


The service has the potential to eclipse even Gmail, Google's second best-known product after their google.com search engine. That said, it's no wonder users have been ripe with anticipation for years - yes, that's how long the rumors have persisted. Gdrive is basically online storage where Google servers have enough capacity to hold the entire contents of your hard drive. It will likely also come with enough brains to do cool tricks now with bigger things down the road - like booting your computer from online drive to load the Google operating system.
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So, don't be surprised if the computer you'll be using a few years down the road comes with no hard drive at all, but boots the Google operating system entirely off Gdrive and the Internet.

[Divinorumus]

Nothing beats putting all your eggs in one basket, eh. Might as well remove your firewalls and proxy servers and let Big Brother into your hard drive on your personal computers. Sounds like a nice target for terrorists too. Imagine, awakening one day to find none of us are able to boot up our computers to get some work done because Google is on strike. This idea sounds dangerous. And, no doubt you'll have to suffer through endless ads for colon cleansers and sex pills as you try to get some work done on your Google OS too. Sounds like a bad idea to me.

[SquidInk]

Nothing beats putting all your eggs in one basket, eh. Might as well remove your firewalls and proxy servers and let Big Brother into your hard drive on your personal computers. Sounds like a nice target for terrorists too. Imagine, awakening one day to find none of us are able to boot up our computers to get some work done because Google is on strike. This idea sounds dangerous. And, no doubt you'll have to suffer through endless ads for colon cleansers and sex pills as you try to get some work done on your Google OS too. Sounds like a bad idea to me.

I agree.

They'll be scanning & indexing all the "web drives"... for marketing purposes, of course.

[maryals]

oh dear oh dear oh dear I am forced to agree with Div on something........

Mary and Bessie :yikes:

[Project]

LOL I have been using gdrive for many years. It is a system someone developed to use gmail as a file server.

You guys really really need to get into encryption, you would be alot less paranoid. You know how military orders were and still are securely given, over public airwaves? Think of the similarity there.

If anyone wants anything from your hard drive, it is trivial to take it, remotely, or onsite. If it is properly encrypted, you are still ok. Some of my systems may or may not have layers of encryption on parts of them. No one would know by examining them, since it would look like normal random noise of a hard drive that is empty, or has been securely erased.

Maybe, to begin with, you don't put stuff on google that you find personal or don't want goog to see? Like maybe you don't write down your deepest personal secrets on a napkin while eating a big mac at mcdos than leave it there.

[Divinorumus]

You guys really really need to get into encryption...
Who has time (or the desire) to develop an encryption scheme that the spooks can't easily decrypt?

[SquidInk]

LOL I have been using gdrive for many years. It is a system someone developed to use gmail as a file server.

You guys really really need to get into encryption, you would be alot less paranoid. You know how military orders were and still are securely given, over public airwaves? Think of the similarity there.

If anyone wants anything from your hard drive, it is trivial to take it, remotely, or onsite. If it is properly encrypted, you are still ok. Some of my systems may or may not have layers of encryption on parts of them. No one would know by examining them, since it would look like normal random noise of a hard drive that is empty, or has been securely erased.

Maybe, to begin with, you don't put stuff on google that you find personal or don't want goog to see? Like maybe you don't write down your deepest personal secrets on a napkin while eating a big mac at mcdos than leave it there.

Or, maybe I stay away from the computer world all together as it seems to be infested, top to bottom, with criminal megalomaniacs disguised (laughably) as benevolent billion dollar corporations. ENCRYPTION IS MEANINGLESS (http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39455/128/) - or very soon will be, privacy is a thing of the past. It's not my deepest secrets I'm concerned about... I know where to keep those, and THEY don't want my secrets anyway - they want my "patterns".

It's everyday habits they want access to, the ones that are so automatic nobody pays any attention to them. Their Simulators are hungry for data... and Google intends to provide an all-they-can-eat smorgasbord. Cool. But in the end, it's people like us who will be fed the dirt sandwich of technological enslavement.

By the way, it's not paranoia - it's outrage. It's about rude behavior, plain & simple. My father would have likened it to attending a gathering of people you just met & asking all the ladies how much they weigh, and all the men how much they make. A recipe for a black eye... back in his day. Today, they don't even ask - due to extreme cowardice, they use CLANDESTINE METHODS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap)to gather in the harvests.

(JMPO)

[Project]

They have tracked this stuff since way before the internet.

That Encryption is Meaningless link applies to very few people, and really, it is not true anyways. Properly encrypted things are not accessible. They are talking about a platform designed for remote access.

Just as you don't go around saying out loud everything in your head, why would you leave everything on your computer in plain sight? It should all be encrypted, no matter the seeming importance. This also defeats the idea of "if it is encrypted it must be illegal/secret". It should be normal to encrypt things.

The fact no one knows how to encrypt things shows how little people really actually care about privacy and such. It is but a google away if you do care.


It's everyday habits they want access to, the ones that are so automatic nobody pays any attention to them. Their Simulators are hungry for data... and Google intends to provide an all-they-can-eat smorgasbord. Cool. But in the end, it's people like us who will be fed the dirt sandwich of technological enslavement. While I agree, again, this is OLD. The have had access to this data from your credit cards, surveillance, RFID, consumer cards, etc etc.. Your marketing profile was complete by the time you hit 21.

[SquidInk]

That Encryption is Meaningless link applies to very few people, and really, it is not true anyways. Properly encrypted things are not accessible. They are talking about a platform designed for remote access.

OK. I'll have to take your word on it...



The fact no one knows how to encrypt things shows how little people really actually care about privacy and such. It is but a google away if you do care.


If I send a piece of snail mail, but I don't use a "security envelope" with a pattern printed on it, am I asking for the letter to be opened, & archived by the state? In the past was there a presumption of privacy, whereas now is there a presumption of invasion of privacy? If so, why? In days gone by, letter carriers had a sense of honor, pride in their jobs, and a certain "all weather" benevolence - because they realized the the responsibilities they had been entrusted with.

It is not the case in the corporate/governmental tech environment... (IMHO)



While I agree, again, this is OLD. The have had access to this data from your credit cards, surveillance, RFID, consumer cards, etc etc.. Your marketing profile was complete by the time you hit 21.

Maybe. Interaction with much of the technology you mentioned was/is optional. The problem occurs when I live in a society where many daily functions require a computer, and the only computers available to me are web based life recorders, which will feed information to my virtual doppleganger within the System's databanks, so back in "reality" I may be more perfectly manipulated by the System, for it's own benefit.

[Project]

It is not the case in the corporate/governmental tech environment... (IMHO)

Yes, it is the case, every employer does and should monitor all electronic traffic. I was in charge of this a few times in my past.

You should not have an expectation of privacy online, all this does is make it simple for anyone to invade your privacy.

Encryption is privacy in the tech sphere. Nothing else is.

Why do you think you want a little lock (meaning your connection is encrypted) to appear on your browser when entering your CC #? Because you want privacy. If you want the same sort of privacy in your everyday life, you apply the same technology. If you don't, maybe you feel like you live a free-er life somehow, but just like people who insist on leaving their doors unlocked, you better be ready to assume some losses in exchange for your "free-er" lifestyle.

For me, freedom is deciding what parts of my life I want to share and which I do not. Encryption is a tool to enable you to make these decisions and enforce them.

About your letter analogy, no, I would not expect the gov to be reading the letter, but I would expect some nosy person alone the line very well could do it. This is the same end result, your privacy is not enforced.

[Project]

And the whole point of the OP was not to trust google with your data... and using encryption you do not have to, but you can still use their service. Seems like the best of both worlds, and an empowerment to you for learning how to control access to your private data.