The Illuminati and the NWO I

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The Illuminati

The terms Illuminati, Secret Societies the NWO seem to be tossed about in the spectrum of our interest in the topics of the paranormal, UFOs, ETI, Government, Science, Space Exploration etc. etc. and touches all realms of so called “Conspiracy” theory, investigation.


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I thought I’d start this thread as a foundation and a reference point of the who, what, when, why and where.

There’s tons of material on this subject, so I hope everyone with an interest in it, posts madly.

It is said that the “Illuminati was founded by a man named Adam Weisthaupt (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=41) in 1776, whose basis and goal was world domination, by erasing sovereignity by implementing a NWO ( New World Order ) with One World Government.

Personally, I suspect, the true and first “Illuminati” go back to the beginning of time…o.k. …know it’s a third dimension linear term.

This group, the Illuminati is alleged to be and descend from 13 bloodline families and is at the highest level of Conspiracy, Mind Control, Finance, Politics, conspiracy for world depopulation and dominance.

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From: Educate Yourself (http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/)

There is a worldwide conspiracy being orchestrated by an extremely powerful and influential group of genetically-related individuals (at least at the highest echelons) which include many of the world's wealthiest people, top political leaders, and corporate elite, as well as members of the so-called Black Nobility of Europe (dominated by the British Crown) whose goal is to create a One World (fascist) Government, stripped of nationalistic and regional boundaries, that is obedient to their agenda.

Their intention is to effect complete and total control over every human being on the planet and to dramatically reduce the world's population by 5.5 Billion people. ( http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcontrol.shtml)

While the name New World Order is a term frequently used today when referring to this group, it's more useful to identify the principal organizations, institutions, and individuals who make up this vast interlocking spiderweb of elite conspirators.

The Illuminati ( http://educate-yourself.org/mc/mcsvaliinterviewpt1.shtml)is the oldest term commonly used to refer to the 13 bloodline families (and their offshoots) that make up a major portion of this controlling elite.

Most members of the Illuminati are also members in the highest ranks of numerous secretive and occult societies which in many cases extend straight back into the ancient world.

The upper levels of the tightly compartmentalized (need-to-know-basis) Illuminati structural pyramid include planning committees and organizations that the public has little or no knowledge of. The upper levels of the Illuminati pyramid include secretive committees with names such as: the Council of 3, the Council of 5, the Council of 7, the Council of 9, the Council of 13, the Council of 33, the Grand Druid Council, the Committee of 300 (also called the "Olympians") and the Committee of 500 among others.

In 1992, Dr John Coleman published Conspirators Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300. With laudable scholarship and meticulous research, Dr Coleman identifies the players and carefully details the Illuminati agenda of worldwide domination and control. On page 161 of the Conspirators Hierarchy, Dr Coleman accurately summarizes the intent and purpose of the Committee of 300 as follows:

"A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family, diseases, wars, famines, until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class, in areas which will be strictly and clearly defined, remain as the total world population.

There will be no middle class, only rulers and the servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce laws in all former countries where no national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live; those who are rebellious will simple be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited."

The sheer magnitude and complex web of deceit surrounding the individuals and organizations involved in this conspiracy is mind boggling, even for the most astute among us. Most people react with disbelief and skepticism towards the topic, unaware that they have been conditioned (brainwashed) to react with skepticism by institutional and media influences that were created by the Mother of All mind control organizations: The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations in London. Author and de-programmer Fritz Springmeier (The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines ) says that most people have built in "slides" that short circuit the mind's critical examination process when it comes to certain sensitive topics. "Slides", Springmeier reports, is a CIA term for a conditioned type of response which dead ends a person's thinking and terminates debate or examination of the topic at hand.

For example, the mention of the word "conspiracy" often solicits a slide response with many people. (Springmeier has co-authored three books on trauma-based programming which detail how the Illuminati employs highly tuned and extrememly sophisticated Mind Control (MC) ( http://educate-yourself.org/mc/) training programs that begin the programming process while the intended victim is still within the womb.

Mind Control is a much greater problem than most people realize. According to Cisco Wheeler, a former Illuminati mind control programmer, there are 10 million people who have been programmed as mind controlled slaves using trauma-based MC programs with names like Monarch and MK Ultra.

The newer, non-trauma, electronic means of MC programming that grew out of the Montauk Project, may include millions more. Al Bielek, ( http://educate-yourself.org/ab/) who played a principle role in the development of the Montauk Project, said that there likely 10 million victims of Montauk style mind control programming worldwide, the majority located in the USA. He also said that there are covert Montauk Programming 'Centers' in every major city in the U.S. )

What most Americans believe to be "Public Opinion" is in reality carefully crafted and scripted propaganda designed to elicit a desired behavioral response from the public. Public opinion polls are really taken with the intent of gauging the public's acceptance of the Illuminati's planned programs. A strong showing in the polls tells the Illuminati that the programing is "taking", while a poor showing tells the NWO manipulators that they have to recast or "tweak" the programming until the desired response is achieved. While the thrust and content of the propaganda is decided at Tavistock, implementation of the propaganda is executed in the United States by well over 200 'think tanks' such as the Rand Corporation and the Brookings Institute which are overseen and directed by the top NWO mind control organization in the United States, the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in Menlo Park, California.

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(cont'd) - From: Educate Yourself (http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/)



The NWO global conspirators manifest their agenda through the skillful manipulation of human emotions, ( http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwofaketerrorism.shtml)especially fear.

In the past centuries, they have repeatedly utilized a contrivance that NWO researcher and author David Icke has characterized in his latest book, The Biggest Secret, as Problem, Reaction, and Solution.

The technique is as follows: Illuminati strategists create the Problem- by funding , assembling, and training an "opposition" group to stimulate turmoil in an established political power (sovereign country, region, continent, etc.) that they wish to impinge upon and thus create opposing factions in a conflict that the Illuminati themselves maneuvered into existence.

In recent decades, so called "opposition" groups are usually identified in the media as 'freedom fighters' or 'liberators' (recently the KLA-Kosovo Liberation Army).
At the same time, the leader of the established political power where the conflict is being orchestrated is demonized and, on cue, referred to as 'another Hitler' (take your pick: Saddam Hussein, Milosevic, Kadaffi, etc.).

The 'freedom fighters' are not infrequently assembled from a local criminal element (i.e. KLA, drug traffickers). In the spirit of true Machiavellian deceit, the same NWO strategists are equally involved in covertly arming and advising the leader of the established power as well (the Illuminati always profits from any armed conflict by loaning money, arming, and supplying all parties involved in a war).

The conflict is drawn to the world stage by the controlled media outlets with a barrage of photos and video tape reports of horrific and bloody atrocities suffered by innocent civilians. The cry goes up "Something has to be done!" And That is the desired Reaction (note: the same technique is presently being used to bring about gun control in the United States).

The NWO puppeteers then provide the Solution by sending in UN 'Peace Keepers' (Bosnia) or a UN 'Coalition Force' (Gulf War) or NATO Bombers and then ground troops (Kosovo). Once installed, the 'peace keepers' never leave (Bosnia, Kosovo). The idea is to have NWO controlled ground troops in all major countries or strategic areas where significant resistance to the New World Order takeover is likely to be encountered.
East Timor, Indosnesia. (9/14/99)

Virtually , the same strategy used to occupy Kosovo with UN/NATO troops was applied by the NWO manipulators to take military control of East Timor. Once again, the same morality play is trotted out for public consumption: the local evil and demonic Indonesian Army trained militias responsible for the slaughter of innocent civilians following the August 30 vote for Independence (from Indonesian control), must be stopped at all costs.

This time, Australia (to keep up the appearance of an 'international' humantarian effort) will lead the charge with 'peacekeeping' troops. Of course, it didn't take long for Madeline Albright to announce that US 'support assets' will be part of the "UN Peacekeeping Team". In a front page story in the LA Times (9/13/99), Mike Jendrzejczyk of Human Rights Watch (an Illuminati front group) in Washington DC said that it's "crucial" that "peacekeepers have the authority to disarm militia forces and any Indonesian soldiers actively working with them".

The local, sovereign military force is either defeated (i.e. Yugoslavia) or, as in the case of the United States itself, replaced by foreign UN "Partnership For Peace" (PFP) troops who take over the jobs of US soldiers who have been sent overseas on 'peacekeeping' missions.

In addition to being killed in ground conflicts on foreign soil, US military forces will likely be reduced in the next few years through disease induced attrition (i.e. from mandatory Anthrax Vaccinations required of all US military personnel). These vaccinations will, in all probability, eventually produce the symptoms of the so-called Gulf War Illness, which was acquired by a certain percentage of Gulf War soldiers who were given a "special" anthrax vaccine (intended by the Illuminati/CIA as a test run to ascertain how quickly (and fatally) the disease would progress with a substantial population of healthy young men and women).

The corporate portion of the NWO pyramid seems to be dominated by international bankers and the big pharmaceutical cartels, as well as other major multinational corporations. The Royal Family of England, namely Queen Elizabeth II and the House of Windsor, (who are, in fact, descendants of the German arm of European Royalty -the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family-changed the name to Windsor in 1914 ), are high level players in the oligarchy which controls the upper strata of the Illuminati.

The decision making Illuminati nerve centers of this effort are in the London (especially the City of London), Basel Switzerland, and Brussels (NATO headquarters).

The United Nations, along with all the agencies working under the UN umbrella, such as the World Health Organization (WHO), are full time players in this scheme. Similarly, NATO is a military tool of the NWO.

The leaders of all major industrial countries like the United States, England, Germany, Italy, Australia, New Zealand, etc. (E.g. members of the "G7/G8" ) are active and fully cooperative participants in this conspiracy. In this century, the degree of control exerted by the Illuminati has advanced to the point that only certain hand-picked individuals, who are groomed and selected by the Illuminati are even eligible to become the prime minister or president of countries like England, Germany, or The United States.

It didn't matter whether Bill Clinton or Bob Dole won the Presidency in 1996, the results would have been the same (except maybe for Zipper Gate ). Both men are playing on the same team for the same ball club. Anyone who isn't a team player is taken out: i.e.President Kennedy, Ali Bhutto (Pakistan) and Aldo Moro (Italy).

More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also killed because they were either unwilling to go along with the conspiracy to destroy America, weren't cooperating in some capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the Takeover agenda.

Most of the major wars, political upheavals, and economic depression/recessions of the past 100 years (and earlier) were carefully planned and instigated by the machinations of these elites. They include The Spanish-American War (1898), World War I and World War II; TheGreat Depression; the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917; the Rise of Nazi Germany; the Korean War; the Vietnam War; the 1989-91"fall" of Soviet Communism, the 1991 Gulf War; and the recent War in Kosovo. Even the French Revolution was an orchestrated into existence by the Barvaian Illuminati and the House of Rothchild.

FEMA In America, the Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) ( http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/FEMAsecretgovt1995.shtml)was created in 1979 under Presidential Memorandum 32 authored for President Carter by Prof. Samuel P. Huntington, a Harvard professor and former FEMA Advisory Board chairman. Huntington wrote the Seminal Peace for the Trilateral Commission in the mid 70's, in which he criticized democracy and economic development as outdated ideas. As co-author of the book, Crisis in Democracy, Huntington wrote:

"We have come to recognize that there are potential desirable limits to economic growth. There are also potentially desirable limits to the indefinite extension of political democracy. A government which lacks authority will have little ability short of cataclysmic crisis to impose on its people the sacrifices which may be necessary."

Huntington's ideas were rewritten into National Security Decision Directive #47 (NSDD47), which was enacted in July 1982 by President Reagan. Treated as a passing footnote by the media, this law identified legitimate areas to be upgraded to maintain national defense, but it also laid the groundwork for Emergency Mobilization Preparedness, a plan under which existing socio/economic regulations or other legal constraints would be waived in the event of a national emergency.

This plan was further strengthened in Public Law 101-647, signed by President Bush in November 1990.What it boils down to is this: in the event that the President declares a national emergency, for any reason (from major earthquakes to increased international tensions or economic /financial crisis of any stripe), FEMA can then, at their discretion, implement Executive Orders 10995 through 11005. These Executive Orders permit a takeover by FEMA of local, state, and national governments and the suspension of constitutional guarantees. FEMA will have the authority to exert any sort of control that it deems necessary upon the American public. A trained National Police Force, formally referred to by the name of Multi Jurisdictional Task Force (MJTF), wearing black uniforms and composed of:

1. specially selected US military personnel
2. foreign military units carrying United Nations ID cards, and
3. specially trained existing police groups from larger metropolitan American cities.

These members of the MJTF will implement and enforce martial law under the direction and controlof FEMA. The President and Congress are out of the loop.

FEMA is the Trojan Horse by which the New World Order will implement overt, police-state control over the American populace.

War on Drugs

The "War on Drugs" is a cruel joke. The US government, specifically the CIA, is the biggest 'drug lord' on the planet. Drug money is used to pay for innumerable 'black projects', including the construction of huge underground cities ( http://educate-yourself.org/products/pslastlecturedescrip.shtml)housing both humans and aliens working with the secret US government.

The instigation of a trumped-up war as a cover for amassing fortunes can be dated back to at least the 12th Century when only a core group of nine members of an Illuminati group called the Knights Templar, the military arm of an Illuminati secret society known as the Priory of Sion, kicked off the The Crusades that lasted for over a century and a half. A rift later developed between the Templars and the Priory of Sion when Jerusalem was lost to Saracen Turks in 1187. In 1307, the king of France, Philippe the Fair (a Merovingian Illuminati), coveted the wealth and was jealous of the Templars' power. The French king, being a puppet of the Priory of Sion, set out to arrest all the Templars in France on October 13. While many Templars were seized and tortured, including their Grand Master, Jacques de Molay, many other Templars (who had been tipped off) escaped. They eventually resurfaced in Portugal, in Malta (as the Knights of Malta) and later in Scotland as The Scottish Rites of Free Masonry.

The acquisition and consolidation of ever greater wealth, natural resources, total political power, and control over others are the motivating forces which drives the decisions of the Illuminati. The toll in human suffering and the loss of innocent lives are non issues for these individuals, who are aligned with very dark and malevolent 4th dimensional aliens. The dominant group of 4th dimentional malevolent aliens controlling and manipulating the human Iluminati are known as Draconians or Drakos Reptilians. Not all alien reptilians are of a negative spiritual orientation.

Mind Control

Recent revelations from deprogrammed Illuminati (government) mind controlled individuals such as Arizona Wilder (The Biggest Secret), Cisco Wheeler (The Top 13 Bloodlines of the Illuminati), Cathy O'Brien (Trance Formation in America), and Brice Taylor (Thanks for the Memories) leave NO DOUBT that the upper levels of the Illuminati engage in Satanic rituals which usually include the killing of young children, the drinking of human blood and the consuming of flesh and human organs.

The details of the Illuminati conspiracy are brilliantly laid in three books by David Icke (Children of the Matrix, The Biggest Secret, The Truth Shall Set You Free, andI am Me, I am Free; and in three books by Dr. John Coleman(Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of The Committee of 300; One World Order: Socialist Dictatorship; and Diplomacy by Deception {see Products page )
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More links and free audio coming soon....have to find them on my hard drive. :)

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In the past centuries, they have repeatedly utilized a contrivance that NWO researcher and author David Icke has characterized in his latest book, The Biggest Secret, as Problem, Reaction, and Solution.


I hadn't thought about this before Civilian made an observation concerning Alex Jones and Arnold Schwarzenegger in the “T.O.” the other night.

I've always had the highest regard for Arnold Schwarzenegger and his accomplishments.
All New World Order stuff aside.
Arnold stands on a mountain top of personal accomplishments, .. not because of dirty politics, .. but because he's climbed the mountain foothold by foothold.
And from what I've seen of that "climb to success" in body-building, acting, learning English, immigration, American business financing, and everything else ... it's a very difficult climb, indeed.

Okay.
We've established that gormworm respects and admires Arnold.

Looking at this from the New World Order angle ...
.. It's very interesting that Arnold became governor of California by way of a re-call election of Gray Davis that overturned the Constitution of the state of California.

Now there are discussions in Congress to make changes to the American national Constitution, ... changes to the original amendments to the Constitution that will allow Arnold to become president.

I have to admit ... this really DOES sound like a New World Order agenda at work.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

It was an artificially created state financial CRISIS that caused the "emergency" re-call election to take place in California in the first place ... making Arnold governor.

And it's interesting how all of the entertainment industry related candidates, .. like Gary Coleman, and the slap stick stand-up comedian Galligher, .. took the media's attention away from other highly qualified legitimate candidates during that re-call election race.

Was Arnold elected governor of California using a New World Order Problem, Reaction, and Solution propaganda politics operation?

I wonder.

There was a great controversy over voter tampering in California during that emergency re-call election.
Just like the last two presidential elections.

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Gormy, don't know enough about that state of California to comment on a possible Problem, Reaction Solution scenario.

Although I agree, that I admire Arnold for his "acheivements", I say this with reservation. Guess it's more than nice to succeed when the silver spoon has been placed.

I bit pressed for time with this response, however it seems to me, that perhaps Reagan was a test pilot/run for Arnie:

actor
portrays honorable, politically correct protagonist...except mebbe for Bonzo
comes seemingly out of no-where as a front runner for governship
is elected as Governor to the State of California
was known, relative to mass/entertainment media...less marketting
required
Reagan's Movies (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0001654/)

Then there's Arnold:

actor
portrays a victor over evil in films like The Terminator, Preditor, Commando, Conan the Barbarian, just to name a few ...then softening him for other roles like Twins, Kindergarten Cop, Junior Movie list (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/365NZOEFASRB0/102-0476400-2545724)
Arnie is just as fit, handsome, whatever any many other American body builders out there, yet he ends up the front runner
marries in to the Kennedy family (Maria Schreiber)...staunch Democrats, yet they accept him and he runs and wins Governorship on a Republican ticket
immediately after the Nov. 3 election, there are lobbies to change the criteria of who is eligible to run for President of the USA, to accomodate Arnold
Arnold Exposed (http://www.arnoldexposed.com/)
etc, etc, etc.....

IMHO, the marketing for Arnie has been up and running for a long time.....just look how the media and Hollywood has positioned him...and so far it's working. He was chosen a long time ago.....has attended 'secret society functions'....links available on Alex Jones site...I have others I think...I'll look later.

So gormy, Problem, Reaction, Solution...maybe....but my guess would be over manipulation in plain site, from the PTB to the sheeple that they think most are.....after all, it's worked up until now, for the most part...hasn't it?! :mad:

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Thanks for all the time and effort here folks.It would take me hours to find all this stuff on my own!! :D

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Food for thought:

New World Order Quotes

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
-Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli of England, in 1844.

"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England ... (and) ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."
- Professor of History Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University, in his book "Tragedy and Hope".

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
- Woodrow Wilson

"[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change it's perceptions."
- Henry Kissenger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994

"David Rockefeller is the most conspicuous representative today of the ruling class, a multinational fraternity of men who shape the global economy and manage the flow of its capital. Rockefeller was born to it, and he has made the most of it. But what some critics see as a vast international conspiracy, he considers a circumstance of life and justanother day's work... In the world of David Rockefeller it's hard to tell where business ends and politics begins"
- Bill Moyers

"We know in the not too distant future, a half dozen corporations are going to control the media.
We took this step (merger) to ensure we were one of them"
-Time Warner spokesperson.

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
- Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg ("Angel" to and active in the United World Federalists), son of Paul Moritz Warburg, nephew of Felix Warburg and of Jacob Schiff, both of Kuhn, Loeb & Co. which poured millions into the Russian Revolution through James' brother Max, banker to the German government

"All of us will ultimately be judged on the effort we have contributed to building a NEW WORLD ORDER."
-Robert Kennedy, former U.S. Attorney-General, 1967.

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise their power from behind the scenes."
- Justice Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court.

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insideous forces working from within."
- General Douglas MacArthur

"For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from it's original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy making arm of the government."
-President Harry Truman

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House.

"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation."
- Mayor (1918-1925) John F. Hylan of New York.

"Fundamental Bible-believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the state, are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in."
-Nebraska State Senator Peter Hoagland, speaking on radio in 1983.

"When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." "And so alot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the Housing Projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make the people feel safer in their communities"
-President Bill Clinton 3-22-94, MTV's "Enough is Enough"

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.."
-Bill Clinton USA Today--3-11-93, page 2a

"Gun registration is not enough"
-Attorney Generral Janet Reno--12-10-93--Associated Press

"Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal"
-Janet Reno

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, then it will lose it's freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort and security that it values, it will lose that too.Unknown Americans must decide :
Are we to be governed by Americans or by an International organization ? I, for one, owe no alliegence to the United Nations nor will I give it any. I obey only the U.S. Constitution. You had better think about this issue, for if the U.N. can violate the Sovereignty of Haiti, Iraq and other
countries, it can violate ours...The United States may not be the top dog 15 years from now. U.N. security council resolutions, backed by say chinese soldiers, could be aimed at us."
-Charley Reese-Orlando Sentinel

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if
we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries"
-David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991

"From the days of Sparticus, Weishaupt, Karl Marx, Trotski, belacoon, Rosa Luxenberg and Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement
during the 19th century. And now at last, this band of extraordinary personalities from the under- world of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
-Winston Churchill to the London press in 1922.

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate
the four centers of power - Political, Monetary, Intellectual, and Ecclesiastical."
-U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater from his 1964 book "No Apologies"

"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election....It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!"
- George W. Malone, U.S. Senator (Nevada), speaking before Congress in 1957.

"The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of a World Government ..."
- AMERICAN MERCURY MAGAZINE, December 1957, pg. 92.

"The Air Force is suffering from pilots who have lost faith in their generals, jet engines that still don't work after repairs and maintenance depots with 'little quality or quantity of work being produced', according to an internal Defense Department memorandum. The draft memo paints a troubling picture of the state of American air power. 'The sad state of air-force readiness can be
blamed on the Clinton Administration, which treats the military as a toy to be deployed for meals-on-wheels-type missionswithout due consideration for it's impact on readiness", said Robert Maginnis, a retired Army Lieutenent colonel and an analyst at the conservative Family Research Council

"The International government of the United Nations, stripped of it's legal trimming, then, is really the International Government of the United States and the Soviet Union acting in Unison."
- From the American Jewish Committee's official magazine "Commentary" of Nov. 1958, Pg. 376

"War to the hilt between communism and capitalism is inevidable. Today of course, we are not strong enough to attack. Our time will come in 20 or 30 years...The Bourgeoisie will have to be put to sleep. So we shall begin by launching the most spectacular peace movement on record. There will be electrifying overtures and unheard of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate in their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be friends. As soon as their guard is down, we shall smash them with our clentched fist."
- Dimitry Z. Manuilsky in a speech made in 1931 before the Lenin School of Political Warfare, later he became an officer of the U.N. Security Council in 1949)


"We operate here under directives which emulate (sic) from the White House ... The substance of the directives under which we operate is that we shall use our grant making power to alter life in the United States so that we can comfortably be merged with the Soviet Union."
- Rowan Gaither, President of the Ford Foundation, 1954.

"The old world order changed when this war-storm broke. The old international order passed away as suddenly, as unexpectedly, and as completely as if it had been wiped out by a gigantic flood, by a great
tempest, or by a volcanic eruption. The old world order died with the setting of that day's sun and a new world order is being born while I speak, with birth-pangs so terrible that it seems almost incredible that life could come out of such fearful suffering and such overwhelming sorrow."
- Nicholas Murray Butler, in an address delivered before the Union League of Philadelphia, Nov. 27, 1915

"The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world."
- M. C. Alexander, Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, in a subscription letter for the periodical International Conciliation (1919)

"If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment. If we are ever to approach that time, it will be after patient and persistent effort of long duration. The present international situation of mistrust and fear can only be corrected by a formula of equal status, continuously applied, to every phase of international contacts, until the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out of the minds of the people of
all lands."
- Dr. Augustus O. Thomas, president of the World Federation of Education Associations (August 1927), quoted in the book "International Understanding: Agencies Educating for a New World" (1931)

tbc

[Alpha]

con'td

"... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people."
- H. G. Wells, in his book entitled "The New World Order" (1939)

"The term Internationalism has been popularized in recent years to cover an interlocking financial, political, and economic world force for the purpose of establishing a World Government. Today Internationalism is heralded from pulpit and platform as a 'League of Nations' or a 'Federated Union' to
which the United States must surrender a definite part of its National Sovereignty. The World Government plan is being advocated under such alluring names as the 'New International Order,' 'The New World Order,' 'World Union Now,' 'World Commonwealth of Nations,' 'World Community,' etc. All
the terms have the same objective; however, the line of approach may be religious or political according to the taste or training of the individual."
- excerpt from A Memorial to be Addressed to the House of
Bishops and the House of Clerical and Lay Deputies of the Protestant Episcopal Church in General Convention (October 1940)


"If totalitarianism wins this conflict, the world will be ruled by tyrants, and individuals will be slaves. If democracy wins, the nations of the earth will be united in a commonwealth of free peoples, and individuals, wherever found, will be the sovereign units of the new world order."
- The Declaration of the Federation of the World, produced by the Congress on World Federation, adopted by the Legislatures of North Carolina (1941), New Jersey (1942), Pennsylvania (1943), and possibly other states.

"New World Order Needed for Peace: State Sovereignty Must Go, Declares Notre Dame Professor" - title of article in The Tablet (Brooklyn) (March 1942)

"Undersecretary of State Sumner Welles tonight called for the early creation of an international organization of anti-Axis nations to control the world during the period between the armistice at the end of the present war and the setting up of a new world order on a permanent basis."
- Article in the Philadelphia Inquirer (June 1942)

"The statement went on to say that the spiritual teachings of religion must become the foundation for the new world order and that national sovereignty must be subordinate to the higher moral law of God."
- American Institute of Judaism, excerpt from article in the New York Times (December 1942)

"There are some plain common-sense considerations applicable to all these attempts at world planning. They can be briefly stated: 1. To talk of blueprints for the future or building a world order is, if properly understood, suggestive, but it is also dangerous. Societies grow far more truly than they are built. A constitution for a new world order is never like a blueprint for a skyscraper."
- Norman Thomas, in his book "What Is Our Destiny" (1944)

"He [John Foster Dulles] stated directly to me that he had every reason to believe that the Governor [Thomas E. Dewey of New York] accepts his point of view and that he is personally convinced that this is the policy that he would promote with great vigor if elected. So it is fair to say that on the first round the Sphinx of Albany has established himself as a prima facie champion of a strong and definite new world order."
- Excerpt from article by Ralph W. Page in the Philadelphia Bulletin (May 1944)

"The United Nations, he told an audience at Harvard University, 'has not been able--nor can it be able--to shape a new world order which events so compellingly demand.' ... The new world order that will answer economic, military, and political problems, he said, 'urgently requires, I believe, that the United States take the leadership among all free peoples to make the underlying concepts and aspirations of national sovereignty truly meaningful through the federal approach.'"
- Gov. Nelson Rockefeller of New York, in an article entitled "Rockefeller Bids Free Lands Unite: Calls at Harvard for Drive to Build New World Order" -- New York Times (February 1962)

"The developing coherence of Asian regional thinking is reflected in a disposition to consider problems and loyalties in regional terms, and to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a new world order."
- Richard Nixon, in Foreign Affairs (October 1967)

"He [President Nixon] spoke of the talks as a beginning, saying nothing more about the prospects for future contacts and merely reiterating the belief he brought to China that both nations share an interest in peace and building 'a new world order.'"
- Excerpt from an article in the New York Times (February 1972)

"If instant world government, Charter review, and a greatly strengthened International Court do not provide the answers, what hope for progress is there? The answer will not satisfy those who seek simple
solutions to complex problems, but it comes down essentially to this: The hope for the foreseeable lies, not in building up a few ambitious central institutions of universal membership and general jurisdiction as
was envisaged at the end of the last war, but rather in the much more decentralized, disorderly and pragmatic process of inventing or adapting institutions of limited jurisdiction and selected membership to
deal with specific problems on a case-by-case basis ... In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion,' to use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run around national
sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."
- Richard N. Gardner, in Foreign Affairs (April 1974)

"The existing order is breaking down at a very rapid rate, and the main uncertainty is whether mankind can exert a positive role in shaping a new world order or is doomed to await collapse in a passive posture.
We believe a new order will be born no later than early in the next century and that the death throes of the old and the birth pangs of the new will be a testing time for the human species."
- Richard A. Falk, in an article entitled "Toward a New World Order: Modest Methods and Drastic Visions," in the book "On the Creation of a Just World Order" (1975)

"My country's history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this
chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order."
- Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the
United Nations, October 1975)

"At the old Inter-American Office in the Commerce Building here in Roosevelt's time, as Assistant Secretary of State for Latin American Affairs under President Truman, as chief whip with Adlai Stevenson and Tom Finletter at the founding of the United Nations in San Francisco, Nelson Rockefeller
was in the forefront of the struggle to establish not only an American system of political and economic security but a new world order."
- Excerpt of article in the New York Times (November 1975) "A New World Order" -- title of article on commencement address at the University of Pennsylvania by Hubert H. Humphrey, printed in the Pennsylvania Gazette (June 1977)

"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order."
- Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address at the United Nations (December 198

"We believe we are creating the beginning of a new world order coming out of the collapse of the U.S.-Soviet antagonisms."
- Brent Scowcroft (August 1990), quoted in the Washington Post (May 1991)

"We can see beyond the present shadows of war in the Middle East to a new world order where the strong work together to deter and stop aggression. This was precisely Franklin Roosevelt's and Winston Churchill's vision for peace for the post-war period."
- Richard Gephardt, in the Wall Street Journal (September 1990)

"If we do not follow the dictates of our inner moral compass and stand up for human life, then his lawlessness will threaten the peace and democracy of the emerging new world order we now see, this long dreamed-of vision we've all worked toward for so long."
- President George Bush (January 1991)

"But it became clear as time went on that in Mr. Bush's mind the New World Order was founded on a convergence of goals and interests between the U.S. and the Soviet Union, so strong and permanent that they would work as a team through the U.N. Security Council."
- excerpt from A. M. Rosenthal, in the New York Times (January 1991)

"I would support a Presidential candidate who pledged to take the following steps: ... At the end of the war in the Persian Gulf, press for a comprehensive Middle East settlement and for a 'new world order'
based not on Pax Americana but on peace through law with a stronger U.N. and World Court."
- George McGovern, in the New York Times (February 1991)

"... it's Bush's baby, even if he shares its popularization with Gorbachev. Forget the Hitler 'new order' root; F.D.R. used the phrase earlier."
- William Safire, in the New York Times (February 1991)


The "new world order that is in the making must focus on the creation of a world of democracy, peace and prosperity for all."
- Nelson Mandela, in the Philadelphia Inquirer (October 1994)

The renewal of the nonproliferation treaty was described as important "for the welfare of the whole world and the new world order."
- President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, in the New York Times (April 1995)


"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."
- Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

[Illyria]

Thank you for this thread Alpha, I'm reading it, and RE-reading it every night. :)

[maryals]

:( Thank you alpha...now, I think, I'll ask RainMaker to put my custom made pink straight jacket on me, I'll just go into that little padded room and with a piece of blue chalk held between my toes, pass the time writing stuff on the walls :(

This proves what I have always said, any discussion of Politics is pointless, cuz the big "THEY" have everything all mapped out and planned and controlled anyway.

Thank you :eek:
Mary

[gormworm]

Bump.

[maryals]

Thank you GormWorm for "bumping" this important Thread/Topic back to life.
My question has always been, "What can you and I or any one DO about it?".
Yes, we can spread the word, praying that some Souls will be saved by the education.
But, is the only solution strictly "personal"? GW and John Lear and others are building their little havens, preparing to be self sufficient. This is not a bad thing, it is wise.
But, what about the rest of the world, or, even, our own Country?
Are there any solutions for "The Masses"?
I am appreciating the information, keep it coming Agreed
But I would also like to see some solutions, if any exist :confused:
Thank you
MaryAlice who converted all her Stock Holdings to gold and silver

[nightcat]

Good bump, Gorm!

And timely, too. I'm making a sort of reference notebook for my radio program - kind of a file of "cheat sheets" with info on subjects that will be covered so I don't have to rely entirely on my brain all the time - and this is good material for the NWO discussions that'll surely arise. :D

[gormworm]

I'm making a sort of reference notebook for my radio program - kind of a file of "cheat sheets" with info on subjects that will be covered so I don't have to rely entirely on my brain all the time - and this is good material for the NWO discussions that'll surely arise. :D

Then you'll want to look at my posting of the complete "Omega File" over in the UFO discussion area.

http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1666&page=2&pp=15

It's one of the more complete outlines of the history of the New World Order that I've come across so far.
It includes the history of our old friend: John Lear, .. and a host of others.

I'm about half way through posting the "Omega File" as I type this.
It's an awful lot of material on one page, .. posted as one single paragraph.
My eyes are burning from looking through it all, .. and attempting to break it down into digestible message board paragraphs.

I've learned from a few years of experience:
"When making posts to a message board, ... the smaller your paragraphs are, ... the larger the number of forum members who will actually read it."

Maybe the world shouldn't work that way, ... but it does, none the less.

Oh well.

Enjoy. :D

[nightcat]

I'm about half way through posting the "Omega File" as I type this.
It's an awful lot of material on one page, .. posted as one single paragraph.
My eyes are burning from looking through it all, .. and attempting to break it down into digestible message board paragraphs.

I've learned from a few years of experience:
"When making posts to a message board, ... the smaller your paragraphs are, ... the larger the number of forum members who will actually read it."


Possibly the worlds longest one-paragraph essay... that's a huge reformatting task; thanks for doing it! You're absolutely correct in your observations - people tend to shy away from too big a hunk o' verbiage in one place unless they're really looking for specific information. Smaller paragraphs almost always = more readers.

Branton seems to spew forth information in an almost manic burst - that's the feeling you get from his style. It feels as if he's writing to get it out before HE bursts (or perhaps before SOMEONE bursts HIM...). He's perhaps the king of the run-on paragraph :D

[nightcat]

WOW! As Alpha might say, more than thanks for that, Gorm! :D

The Omega File is GREAT STUFF! It fills in the gaps left by books I've read by David Icke and Jim Marrs... ties all those events & organizations together very nicely, doesn't it? :D I like it when I get continuity of people & events.... :D

[Ninjutsu]

Excellent Thread - Thanx for all The Interesting Information

[fabzilla]

Of interest historically, mythically, astrologically and any other form of "ically' studies would be the relevance of key notations and references to the "allmighty" gang of 13 and their bloodlines.

Throughout texts and assemblies of ideologies there is an overwhelming configuration of "13" presented in many differing ways and represented by many different "icons" this should be of note when analyzing any information in this very important and elusive field of study.

Just a thought to add to this mix, and a quite all too often overlooked fragment of the numerology issue as a whole and the implications it subliminally carries throughout time and known history versus stated history promoted as reality.


jff

[fabzilla]

Are we all living out a massive diagnosis of triskaidekaphobia, or is there something else behind the obsession with the number 13?

12 apostles and the Christ?

12 witches in a coven and a demigod?

The party of 12 and the death of Baldur at Loki’s hand?

The 12 steps up the ladder to eternal life with death representing the 13th in the Egyptian culture?

13 levels of the underworld to the Mayans?

13 days in the Aztec culture?

The 13 sects of the Shinto?

Chapter 13 in the Book of Revelation revealing the elusive number of the beast?

13 states of the Union whose symbol is noted on many government issued documents?

The death card in the tarot deck?

On and on and so forth it rolls…

The suspects behind it all…

1. The Astor Bloodline
2. The Bundy Bloodline
3. The Collins Bloodline
4. The DuPont Bloodline
5. The Freeman Bloodline
6. The Kennedy Bloodline
7. The Li Bloodline
8. The Onassis Bloodline
9. The Reynolds bloodline
10. The Rockefeller Bloodline
11. The Rothschild Bloodline
12. The Russell Bloodline
13. The Van Duyn Bloodline

A number reveled by freemasonry and occultists, a number to be most aware of indeed.

A rather loose overview but I think the point is conveyed.

jff

[Ninjutsu]

Since Revelation 13 and The Number of The Beast was Mentioned...

Art Bell recently sent me an invitation before his vacation during one of his Coast AM Shows to break The Code of the Word - Yahwah

Within two hours it was A Done Deal

Yahwah has The Sign and CodeNumber of The Beast - CodeNumber 666

Yahwah is a Six Letter Word - There is The First Six

The Numerology of Yahwah using The Universal Numerology System reveals The Double Six

Thus you have The Sign of The Beast - One Six above The Double Six

Put - Simply...

Number of The Word - Yahwah - 6

Numerology of The Word - Yahwah - 66

The Sign and CodeNumber of The Beast - 666

Cool Revelation or What?

[fabzilla]

That's twice you've posted this


Have you considered the possibility of it actually being 616?

read these Ninja...


Is the Number of the Beast 666 or 616 ?
http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/skepticism/616666.html


The Other Number of the Beast: 616
http://www.csad.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast616.htm


Beast's real mark devalued to '616'

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/11134




jff

[Ninjutsu]

Thanx for The Links and I will check them Out

And...

I only mentioned it again in The TO because it was mentioned during The Coast AM Show after My Post in this Section

Hmmmmmmmmm

Just a Coincidence?

As for The Number 616 - It adds to The Number 13 in Numerology and takes you back to Revelation 13 and The CodeNumber 666

By the Way - I noticed you gave me some information about The Number 616 which may turn out to be Disinformation

Then Again

Maybe Not

But...

You did not really comment about the information in My Post

That to me is Sort of Interesting


Have an Excellent Day

[fabzilla]

No I didn't comment as I did find it interesting and worthy of some exploration before makng an instant reply, sorry if you took my lack of response as anything other than what it was.

Many theories, many possibilities out there

To firmly place your 'faiths' in any one particular scenario or circumstance is just silly and completely hollow, and very redundant and a symptom that has been manipulated for far too long.

It is taken and considered and will be applied as such as I look at things and apply what I do know and what I think I know to events and scenarios as they unfold from here forth.


jff

[Ninjutsu]

Many theories, many possibilities out there

To firmly place your 'faiths' in any one particular scenario or circumstance is just silly and completely hollow, and very redundant and a symptom that has been manipulated for far too long.

It is taken and considered and will be applied as such as I look at things and apply what I do know and what I think I know to events and scenarios as they unfold from here forth.


jff


Scenario...

Hmmmmmmmmm

The Number 13 Scenario - The 12 and The 1 and Revelation 13

Also...

Some Sources call The Number 13 - The Number of The Master

Plus...

The Number 616 and The Number 13

Numerology Analysis: [ 6 - 1 - 6 ] [ 13 ]


Interesting Scenario or What?

[fabzilla]

Now you've got it...

[Alpha]

Although this is a dated one, it will give some new to this topic some insight to how wide and deep these "secret societies": the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Comission, The Bilgerberg Group extend....not only to policiticans, but corporations, education, unions, the media, energy etc.
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Roster of CFR/Trilateral Commission Members

Members of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission dominate key positions in America's government, military, industries, media outlets and educational foundations and institutions. The following is a partial list of current CFR members and the positions of influence they hold in society. The CFR's membership is limited to 3,000, and there are only 325 Trilateral Commission members.



CFR = Member of the Council on Foreign Relations
TC = Member of the Trilateral Commission
BB = Member of the Elite Bilderbergs


TOP OF THE PYRAMID:


David Rockefeller, Chairman Emeritus
Peter G. Peterson, Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations
58 E. 68th St. New York, NY 10021
Phone (212) 734-0400
Fax (212) 861-1789

Paul Volker, North American Chairman of the Trilateral Commission
345 E. 46 St. New York, NY 10017
Phone (212) 661-1180

President of the United States of America
William Clinton -- CFR, TC, BB

Asst. Sec. for Administration, United Nations
Dick Thornburgh -- CFR

National Security Advisor
Anthony Lake -- CFR

Vice President of the United States of America
Albert Gore, Jr. -- CFR

Secretary Of State
Warren Christopher -- CFR

Secretary Of Defense
Lee Aspin (Deceased)-- CFR

Chairman Joint Chiefs Of Staff
Colin L. Powell -- CFR

Director Central Intelligence Agency
James Woolsey -- CFR

Chairman, Council of Economics Advisors
Laura Tyson -- CFR

Treasury Secretary
Lloyd Bentsen -- Former CFR, BB

Secretary of Interior
Bruce Babbitt -- CFR

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Henry Cisneros -- CFR

Secretary of Health & Human Services
Donna Shalala -- CFR, TC

Full List HERE (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/cfr-members.htm)

If anyone has a more up to date list, please post the link here.

List of Bilderberg attendees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_attendees)

1997 Bilderberg attendee list (http://www.parascope.com/articles/0697/bilderlist.htm)

2002 Trilateral Commission Member List (http://www.apfn.net/TC.htm)

2005 Trilateral Commission Member List (http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Trilateral_Members.htm)

[Alpha]

Thought this may be of some interest to some!!!

Description:


In the beginning, there was Corporate Logos. This is the very first Freeman Perspective. After you see this, your world will alter forever. ... all » Corporations do have an occultic agenda. All I can say is welcome to Earth from the Freeman Perspective.

29 minutes

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[Alpha]

P2 of the video above.

Columbia, The Illluminati Goddess

Freeman sheds some light on America's goddess Columbia. In this annotated version, Freeman digs deeper into the Illuminati symbolism of our ... all » mysterious goddess, exploring the possibilities of extra-terrestrial involvement in the creation of civilization.

52 Minutes

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[Topper]

For anyone interested you have to listen to the last 15 minutes of Carl Rove's
Q & A during the CSPAN broadcast from the University of Arkansas dedication of
the Clinton School of Public Service.

Rove made the statement that the next president will be another baby boomer
and the one after that will be a Marine/Harvard Grad.

:yikes:

[Topper]

Tonight ABC's Dateline aired a full half hour on Curveball exposing him as living in Zurich after working with the CIA and the Germans being the person who gave our CIA the wrong information on Iraq.

Didn't I mention there might be a connection to an old publication that was transcribed by the Britons titled "Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion"
you can read more inside William Coopers book "Behold a Pale Horse"

Check it out www.abcnews.com

[Topper]

I also heard that Governor Rick Perry of Texas was out of country during the dedication of Texas A & M, School of Engineering in dubai .... what are the odds of that?

[Alpha]

Angels and Demons Revealed

This Doc was being broadcast on Bravo last night, however I also found it in I hope it's entirety on Google Video.

Hosted by Patrick Macnee, it's described as:


Who are the illuminati? What is their history? What do they have planned for humanity?

Veteran British actor Patrick MacNee narrates the history of the illuminati and reveals their evil plan for world domination in this riveting and most informative documentary.

A 'must watch'.

Duration: 1 Hour 6 minutes


-9085163575219188334&q=demons+and+angels+revealed&total=27&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[Alpha]

Jordan Maxwell Exposes the Illuminati

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Duration: 3 hours.

[Alpha]

Thought I would bump this thread up since Jordan Maxwell is on Coast tonight...excellent program so far BTW...do catch his video on Exposing the Illuminati...well worth the watch IMO....

[Alpha]

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[Alpha]

Thought this might be a good time to bump this thread up for those who may have missed it...........

[maryals]

Good idea, thanks!


Mary and Bessie :wall:

[Alpha]

Some interesting analysis IMO.....what do you all think of these?



Top 5 Most Sinister Corporate Logos


Big corporations pay millions in public relations to make customers associate their brand with a warm and fuzzy feeling. It is imperative that the soulless and inherently greedy nature of the corporation be hidden behind a family-friendly facade. But some companies just don’t give a hoot. They hate you, your family and especially your cat and they don’t care if you know it. They even display their evilness right on their logo. Here is my top 5 of most sinister logos.

LINK (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1160)

[eric.coe]

I guess this is very good Idea.

Great job

[CopBlorb73]

Jade wrote:What worries me...if the charade threatened to come crashing down, and the truth would finally be known to the masses, wouldnt they be so desperate to hold onto their power that they would do something horrendous in their desperation?

[VOguy]

Jade wrote:What worries me...if the charade threatened to come crashing down, and the truth would finally be known to the masses, wouldnt they be so desperate to hold onto their power that they would do something horrendous in their desperation?

Those in power have a lot to fear by their loss of power. Like a cruel slave owner, once the owner is reduced to a level on par with those he abused, they will turn on him like hyenas and rip him to death.

Many in power do crazy things just before they are about to be torn to sheds. A brief overview of history shows how atrocities have been played out simply because one group was backed into a corner.

[Alpha]

Jade wrote:What worries me...if the charade threatened to come crashing down, and the truth would finally be known to the masses, wouldnt they be so desperate to hold onto their power that they would do something horrendous in their desperation?

Hello CopBlorb and WELCOME to IW!!

They have and will continue to do so as they are doing right now...many don't realize or acknowledge that this is nothing new....to VO's point


A brief overview of history shows how atrocities have been played out simply because one group was backed into a corner.

[D.envix]

What worries me...if the charade threatened to come crashing down, and the truth would finally be known to the masses, wouldnt they be so desperate to hold onto their power that they would do something horrendous in their desperation?

[LoraHup]

I found this thread very interesting. Thank you.

[lordmac001]

What most Americans believe to be "Public Opinion" is in reality carefully crafted and scripted propaganda designed to elicit a desired behavioral response from the public. Public opinion polls are really taken with the intent of gauging the public's acceptance of the Illuminati's planned programs. A strong showing in the polls tells the Illuminati that the programing is "taking", while a poor showing tells the NWO manipulators that they have to recast or "tweak" the programming until the desired response is achieved.

[maryals]

:bump: Happy Anniversary! I think this looks to be one of our very first posts, and 8 years later the discussion continues!


Mary and Baby :tinfoil2: