Starfire Tor

[Want2Know]

What's the general consensus on this woman? I went to her main blog and questioned her as to why she doesn't release the "hard" physical evidence she has. I told her that I could tell people I keep bigfoot in my basement and have shown him to 60 bonafide anthropologists and that they were all amazed, but that people will just have to believe me. I wrote some more stuff but it was all in a respectful manner. I'm not a skeptic or a naysayer but as they say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

The comment was "pending approval" but never posted to her blog. Every comment there is warm to her claims and I just don't believe that EVERYONE posting on her blog believes her story. If she's so open and wanting to hear dissenting views as she claims then why not post the comments that question her story?

[Dark Skies]

When she was on with Art last week, she did a lot of verbal tap dancing around his questions. She struck me as a person who was full of herself or just full of it.

[Alpha]

Hello Want2Know and WELCOME to IW!!

I found her rather arrogant and overly forceful in her delivery.

BTW, we have chat going on during Coast every night....please feel welcome to join us anytime in our Temporal Observatory (http://www.imaginativeworlds.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5)

You may be interested in the chat we had that night:

Nov 20 - 21, 2009 - Art Bell - Whitley Strieber - Starfire Tor - Time Travel (http://www.imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15936)

Interesting that she didn't respond or even allow your questions on her blog.

Do keep us posted on what happens with that.

[Eyes Wide Open]

As her background seems to be acting and she said in the interview that she earns her living through a production company (but certainly seemed hesitant to say so), I wonder if she is saving any proof she may have for make her own What The Bleep Type thing. She website says she is making some television show. If you look at her website, it doesn't tell you a darn thing either.

Although I believe in the possibilities she presents and have experienced some pretty odd things myself, I wonder if she isn't saving being forth-right waiting to capitalize upon what she has.

[Eyes Wide Open]

Opps that should say HER website....changed my mind and didn't get that she off there lol.

[Want2Know]

Hello Want2Know and WELCOME to IW!!

I found her rather arrogant and overly forceful in her delivery.

BTW, we have chat going on during Coast every night....please feel welcome to join us anytime in our Temporal Observatory (http://www.imaginativeworlds.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5)

You may be interested in the chat we had that night:

Nov 20 - 21, 2009 - Art Bell - Whitley Strieber - Starfire Tor - Time Travel (http://www.imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15936)

Interesting that she didn't respond or even allow your questions on her blog.

Do keep us posted on what happens with that.

I checked again and though other comments have posted she hasn't posted either of mine. I'm of the mind that she's a skilled fraud. If this was all about science and getting to the truth she wouldn't be trying to hold off for a television show as someone else here suggested she was. I would think she would be presenting her hard data to anyone and everyone who would be willing to take a look. Once you get enough mainstream people looking at it and scratching their heads then you start to get people like Dr. Michio Kaku involved and that would bring some real respect to her claims.

It hasn't occurred to me until this moment but the guy she uses to make sure no tricks are being played? He's skilled in the exact thing she's talking about, deception. How many times have we seen Chris Angel, David Copperfield or others make large stuff disappear on camera? The statue of liberty? Surely they can make a circuit city appear or disappear on camera.

I won't disagree that anomalies in time do happen. I think there are very mundane explanations but I think Starfire Tor knows that most people experience some kind of reality altering event in their lives and she's feeding on their very real, albeit mundane experiences. I myself have had the experience of arriving somewhere when driving without any memory of making the drive. It's called highway hypnosis. She's turned these very simple everyday occurrences into some kind of pseudo-science.

Yes, it's just my opinion but I do think she's a fraud trying to capitalize on peoples naivety. If you can make up a plausible sounding explanation for what are seemingly unexplainable events you can make most people believe you.

[RedDog]

I think she is what she has learned to be, a marketing Hollywood head case who wants to expand her career into these "glitches in the Matrix" for fame and money.

Her background does not give her any special insight into these "glitches", just her imagination does.

Her arrogance must come from constantly having to defend the perspective she is selling, including changing her name from Astrid to that hoaky "Starfire".

[alyssataylor1962]

Starfire is the name of several fictional comic book characters published by DC Comics.The most prominent Starfire is Koriand'r the third character to use that name.I believe in the possibilities she presents and have experienced some pretty odd things myself I wonder if she isn't saving being forth right waiting to capitalize upon what she has.

[Alpha]

Heads up....Whitley Strieber will both be hosting Coast this Sunday night, Jan. 9, 2011 with guest Starfire Tor....here's the scoop from his site:



Whitley to Host Coast to Coast AM on Sunday, Jan. 9

He will have Starfire Tor (http://www.unknowncountry.com/diary/magic)with him, to talk about how many of her 2009 predictions came true in 2010 (and perhaps make some NEW ones for 2011 (http://store.nexternal.com/ukcountry/2011-crop-circle-calendar-by-lucy-pringle-p429.aspx)!) She will take calls from people who think they have had "time slip" experiences.

Anne Strieber will be there as well, taking questions and comments about people's Visitor and contact experiences. Anne has personally read over half a million letters from contactees and she has an ongoing project in which she interviews experiencers about what THEIR experience has REALLY BEEN LIKE, and has posted thirteen of them so far, just for subscribers (https://www.unknowncountry.com/user/register). ...I don't subscribe to his site anymore, so I can't read what Anne has posted...if we have any members who subscribe, maybe you can tell us about some of those :wink1:

[Dakota]

Whitley and Anne doing Coast? Good stuff :biggthump

[Dera]

Hello Want2Know and WELCOME to IW!!

I found her rather arrogant and overly forceful in her delivery.

BTW, we have chat going on during Coast every night....please feel welcome to join us anytime in our Temporal Observatory (http://www.imaginativeworlds.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5)

You may be interested in the chat we had that night:

Nov 20 - 21, 2009 - Art Bell - Whitley Strieber - Starfire Tor - Time Travel (http://www.imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15936)

Interesting that she didn't respond or even allow your questions on her blog.

Do keep us posted on what happens with that.


Agree with your assessment, Alpha. I made it a point to listen to the last show (that I could find) Starfire Tor was on with Art and Whitley. I didn't make it clear through to the end. I didn't like her at all and that detracted from what she had to say as far as I am concerned. She sounded--um--belligerent to me and was almost rude to Art. She was afraid Whitley was going to get more time on the air than she did. Just my 2¢.

[Alpha]

Agree with your assessment, Alpha. I made it a point to listen to the last show (that I could find) Starfire Tor was on with Art and Whitley. I didn't make it clear through to the end. I didn't like her at all and that detracted from what she had to say as far as I am concerned. She sounded--um--belligerent to me and was almost rude to Art. She was afraid Whitley was going to get more time on the air than she did. Just my 2¢.

I remember that appearance Dera...should be interesting to see how she comes across tonight.

I also thought that some of you may be interested in these:


TIME SHIFT TIME ARC BEGINS NOW
2010 FUTURE EVENT PREDICTIONS

2010 PREDICTION RESULTS INDEX

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2010 Prediction # 1 Results (http://www.starfiretor.com/FEP/2010Prediction1Results.htm)

2010 Prediction # 2 Results (http://www.starfiretor.com/FEP/2010Prediction2Results.htm)

2010 Prediction # 3 Results (http://www.starfiretor.com/FEP/2010Prediction3Results.htm)

2010 Prediction # 4 Results (http://www.starfiretor.com/FEP/2010Prediction4Results.htm)

2010 Prediction # 5 Results (http://www.starfiretor.com/FEP/2010Prediction5Results.htm)

2010 Prediction # 6 Results (http://www.starfiretor.com/FEP/2010Prediction6Results.htm)

2010 Prediction # 7 Results (http://www.starfiretor.com/FEP/2010Prediction7Results.htm)

2010 Prediction # 8 Results (http://www.starfiretor.com/FEP/2010Prediction8Results.htm)
2010 Prediction # 9 Results (http://www.starfiretor.com/FEP/2010Prediction9Results.htm)

From Whitley's site:


Anne and I were involved in the best documented time slip in history with Starfire Tor. Discussing it on Coast tonight. - posted 56 min 18 sec ago
Starfire Tor has completed a page documenting which of her predictions came true in 2010, and she had a whole slew of hits. We will be talking about them when I host Coast to Coast AM tonight, as well as the incredible timeslip that she, Anne and I experienced together in 2006. Link to Starfire's report on her predictions


From: http://www.starfiretor.com/FEP/2010PredictionResultsIndex.htm

[Dakota]

I don't know why Whitely is so crazy about her. He's interviwing her again on Dreamland on Jan. 22. He just had her on Coast on Jan 9. Here's what at's his site

"Saturday January 22, 2011
Starfire Tor's 2011 Predictions
Most of Starfire Tor's 2010 predictions came true, including detailed ones such as the one about a head of state dying in a plane crash. (Polish President Lech Kaczynsk in August). On Dreamland this week. she offers her predictions for 2011. Later, we will return to the program and analyze her effectiveness, the same way we do with John Hogue, who will be predicting on the show in a couple of weeks.

There are many people these days who offer prophecies. On Dreamland and Unknowncountry, we have a simple standard: they must be precise enough to be provable, and the individual must have a public track record of success. This is why Starfire and John are welcome each year, and why we anticipate that their offerings will be useful and informative.

Starfire's website is StarfireTor.com.

[Midnight 23]

I've heard her on Coast To Coast three times now, once with Art, once with George Noory (w/Whitley as the second guest), and once with Whitley as host. I was interested to see what others thought of her work, and here's a whole thread about it. I've got to say I didn't "read" her attitude as arrogant so much as evasive to the point of almost paranoid in her refusal to reveal details about anything. I signed up for her yahoo group to check see what she's like in her own territory, so to speak, and it's really more of the same. She sends out a message to new members about rules and conduct on her forum and tells up front that she will not reveal anything she knows because she "doesn't want someone else making money off of her techniques" and "they would be useless without her instruction anyway" (which is the only part I read as arrogant or self-important).

I will state without hesitation that the phenomena she describes is legitimate and it does happen; my own experiences were what led me to take an interest in discovering what this woman is all about. What I found is that she is so secretive, so strangely close-lipped and unhelpful, and seemingly paranoid that it totally discredits anything she says or does as fas as I'm concerned. I believe she has had the experiences (and Whitley and Ann Streiber back her up on several) but I also feel that she may so secretive because she really has no idea how or why but so badly wants to be seen as an "expert" in something that she doesn't want to let on to that fact.

Her group it's self seems to have a whole lot of people contributing who just want to believe that EVERY celebrity who dies is a TSLD case and will not take "no" for an answer on any of them. For instance, one was certain that when Congresswoman Giffords was shot recently she had died and the news reports proved it, but somehow the timeline shifted and she was now alive. Fair enough; it WAS reported as such in some venues at first, but shoddy journalism was to blame and that was fairly well documented. The group member would not hear of it and insisted "they" were just covering their tracks because they knew it was a time shift. The group has so many people like that that it becomes hard to take seriously the real reports, as you can't sift through the wannabe TSLD/timeline shift stuff to get to them. Starfire does nothing to help alleviate that problem and her silence on saying "well, I don't think that's the case here...." simply perpeatuates more of the same. She will jump in and encourage anything that supports her or further people "seeing" this phenomena anywhere and everywhere, but will not step in to legitimize her work by putting in any contrary words when EVERY celebrity death or news story causes pages of people who "knew" the person had died years ago or that there was some timeline shift of events.

In the final analysis, I can't decide if the Streibers' connection to her helps her credibility or hurts theirs.

[Alpha]

Very interesting experience Midnight 23. Thanks for sharing with us.

I would say in your final analysis, it's a bit of both IMO. Perhaps the Striebers are some how invested in her "business", although I have no proof in saying that.

Some of may be interested in this....it made my head hurt, however seems like more gobbledeegook to me.


Whitley Strieber has 2 Timeslips Explained by Starfire Tor



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I'm not surprised that you continue to experience Time Shift keyed time slips. You always will.

The Woody Allen film TS keyed time slip is actually an example of your own personal patterning, where your TS memory markers have already been established and operational. Remember about 2-3 years ago, when you had a very similar experience with a newspaper ad, a film you wanted to see and mentioned to Anne, and the newspaper mention vanishing?

Your brain now filters for this type of time line editing, and when it happens your brain focuses in on it and sends you a marker that the time line has been edited. This would not be the only marker. Synchronicities [such as you reading a word and someone saying the same word at the same time] are also time line editing markers.

Because your brain already punched a hole in the usual post Time Shift time line brain assimilation [which causes the brain to accept the "new reality program" as if nothing has changed], a certain part of your brain will always have a 'problem' being totally assimilated into the new reality.

So for a seemingly brief moment your brain suffers from a co-existing time line conflict. Your brain is feeding your conscious and aware self two different versions of a time line. Then your brain chooses which version of the time line to accept. You remember the Woody Allen movie glitch because your brain is no longer compliant with the time line assimilation program. Even though the dominant time line has edited out the Woody Allan movie piece, your brain and consciousness has retained awareness that the co-existing time line conflict was experienced by you.....


Full Article (http://www.unknowncountry.com/insight/whitley-strieber-has-2-timeslips-explained-starfire-tor)

[Krepta3000]

Hi Want2Know, I don't remember what stuff Starfire Tor supposedly has evidence of, and I don't remember where to find her blog, can you elaborate? I have a blog, and people rarely read it, or if they do they don't comment on it. :( It's supposed to let anyone post, and I can delete inappropriate stuff later. Can you go look and test that out, post a comment or two?

[Krepta3000]

I've heard her on Coast To Coast three times now, once with Art, once with George Noory (w/Whitley as the second guest), and once with Whitley as host. I was interested to see what others thought of her work, and here's a whole thread about it. I've got to say I didn't "read" her attitude as arrogant so much as evasive to the point of almost paranoid in her refusal to reveal details about anything. I signed up for her yahoo group to check see what she's like in her own territory, so to speak, and it's really more of the same. She sends out a message to new members about rules and conduct on her forum and tells up front that she will not reveal anything she knows because she "doesn't want someone else making money off of her techniques" and "they would be useless without her instruction anyway" (which is the only part I read as arrogant or self-important).

I will state without hesitation that the phenomena she describes is legitimate and it does happen; my own experiences were what led me to take an interest in discovering what this woman is all about. What I found is that she is so secretive, so strangely close-lipped and unhelpful, and seemingly paranoid that it totally discredits anything she says or does as fas as I'm concerned. I believe she has had the experiences (and Whitley and Ann Streiber back her up on several) but I also feel that she may so secretive because she really has no idea how or why but so badly wants to be seen as an "expert" in something that she doesn't want to let on to that fact.

Her group it's self seems to have a whole lot of people contributing who just want to believe that EVERY celebrity who dies is a TSLD case and will not take "no" for an answer on any of them. For instance, one was certain that when Congresswoman Giffords was shot recently she had died and the news reports proved it, but somehow the timeline shifted and she was now alive. Fair enough; it WAS reported as such in some venues at first, but shoddy journalism was to blame and that was fairly well documented. The group member would not hear of it and insisted "they" were just covering their tracks because they knew it was a time shift. The group has so many people like that that it becomes hard to take seriously the real reports, as you can't sift through the wannabe TSLD/timeline shift stuff to get to them. Starfire does nothing to help alleviate that problem and her silence on saying "well, I don't think that's the case here...." simply perpeatuates more of the same. She will jump in and encourage anything that supports her or further people "seeing" this phenomena anywhere and everywhere, but will not step in to legitimize her work by putting in any contrary words when EVERY celebrity death or news story causes pages of people who "knew" the person had died years ago or that there was some timeline shift of events.

In the final analysis, I can't decide if the Streibers' connection to her helps her credibility or hurts theirs.

I would tell those people who think that Giffords went through a time shift because news reports that she was dead, that it may just as well be that those people who are making this claim are the ones who shifted into a parallel world where she Didn't die. That happens too, apparently. Where someone who walks past the same empty lot every day, week after week, for years, suddenly takes a double take one day upon seeing a building on that lot for the first time in years, that is weathered and beaten, obviously not brand new, but none the less wasn't there the day before. That's either a time shift, or a shift to a parallel universe where the lot wasn't empty for years.

[Midnight 23]

I would tell those people who think that Giffords went through a time shift because news reports that she was dead, that it may just as well be that those people who are making this claim are the ones who shifted into a parallel world where she Didn't die. That happens too, apparently. Where someone who walks past the same empty lot every day, week after week, for years, suddenly takes a double take one day upon seeing a building on that lot for the first time in years, that is weathered and beaten, obviously not brand new, but none the less wasn't there the day before. That's either a time shift, or a shift to a parallel universe where the lot wasn't empty for years.

This is the problem: there were early repots that the lady had died. It was because people wanting to get in first on the story heard she'd been shot at that range in the head and assumed she would have died. That's how it was reported on the "crawls" on some news outlets and in live news feeds. When the contrary was discovered the reports were pulled. That DID happen in this timeline. Any investigation would show that to be true. However, the people I am referencing did not want to do that research or take that for an answer. They want to see this phenomena in ANY situation where it may apply adn don't take "no" for an answer. There was no shift on this level.

For what it's worth, I've seen what I believe to be evidence for this time shift phenomena for myself. It's such a tough thing to verify, and people have been conditioned to hit the instant "I must be mistaken" reflex, but it does seem to occur from time to time from what I've seen. To me, with my own personal understanding of the way universe works, it doesn't even seem like that big of a deal to explain but for those who do want to explain it I think they may want to step back and be more analytical as to not turn off the more skeptical among us.

[Alpha]

For those interested and who have missed them, here are some of the old shows referenced in this thread:

Time Anomalies with Art Bell- Starfire Tor P-1
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Filling in for George, Art Bell welcomed psi researcher and experiencer Starfire Tor, who discussed time shifts and time slips as well as other strange occurrences involving time. During the first 90 minutes, they were joined by Whitley Strieber, who shared his take on Tor's research. He mused that these time anomalies suggest that "the boundary between the classical and quantum worlds is actually fuzzier than we would like to believe." Despite the far-reaching implications of such research, Tor lamented, "no scientist, except myself, ever really tackled these anomalies."

Other Segments here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yUkajV9odA&feature=relmfu)

Time Shifts P1
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Date: 01-09-11
Host: Whitley Strieber
Guests: Starfire Tor, Joseph P. Farrell

Guest host Whitley Strieber (email) was joined by psi researcher, author, and experiencer, Starfire Tor, who discussed time anomalies as well as her predictions for 2011. Anne Strieber also joined the conversation to discuss a time shift experience that was shared by the Striebers and Tor during a visit to the Magic Castle in Los Angeles.

Other Segments Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1LAyIFo5KI)

Real Vampires and Time Shifts

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Real Vampires and Time Shifts
Must See! Research revealed......

During the first half of the show, researcher & experiencer Starfire Tor talked about time shifts, and her unified theory of psi. The theory posits that all psi & paranormal phenomena come from the same source or field. This field also incorporates time shifts-- "an astounding phenomenon in which our perceived reality and the timelines are just constantly being restructured," she said. Alternate versions of the timeline can coexist in different frequencies, and time slips occur when people become aware of odd changes, such as being sure that a certain person is dead, only to find out they're alive, she explained.

Whitley & Anne Strieber joined Starfire for a segment to discuss an unusual time slip episode they had when first meeting her. The Striebers and Starfire Tor will be giving presentations along with William Henry at the upcoming Dreamland Stargate Experience at Joshua Tree in October.

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If there are any others and you have or know of them, please put them up in this thread.

[edin]

Reminds me on the marvels movie :)