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Vega1227
01-02-2010, 02:39 AM
Im completely desperate.
I have all of these questions in my head. The best way i can explain it is that its like a hunger. I want to know whats out there. Im tired of this life of secrecy and governments and secret societies keeping things from us. I want to know the truth about our planet and its history and whats beyond this world and the real reason WHY. Like I have a "why" for every aspect of life. And I want to know why do I have all of these questions and why doesnt anyone else around me care. I feel like no one else my age even thinks of things like this.
I read a lot of things from sites like this and from books but I dont know, Its not enough. I want PROOF. I want to see things with my own eyes. Its very frustrating. The things I read and hear about make so much sense to me but I feel like I need more...
I guess right now this is just a rant but can anyone relate? What can I do?
RedDog
01-03-2010, 01:09 AM
Relate I can my friend. It is akin to the line in the Matrix movie "You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad."
This need to know, based up on this overwhelming feeling that what you think you know is colored by falsehood. I'm certain that most people eventually come face to face with this feeling that the world has literally been pulled over their eyes, and they can either accept it, which most do, or they do like you are doing now, and most of us here at IW do. We question the very foundation of this reality we call our lives.
I've been lucky to have had a guru, or oracle whom I can ask any question and get unexpected answers which blow me away when I take the time and perspective to think about them.
The best piece of advice I got, which is frustrating to hear, is simple. All the answers you seek, all the proof you need, you will find WITHIN. When looking outside for anwers... well my signature sums it up best. :flowers1:
Welcome.
Judee
01-03-2010, 12:56 PM
The best piece of advice I got, which is frustrating to hear, is simple. All the answers you seek, all the proof you need, you will find WITHIN. When looking outside for anwers... well my signature sums it up best. :flowers1:
You are so right on RedDog. :) We need to look within ourselves for the answers we need. The answers are always there. When something 'just doesn't feel right or sit well with us'; then it isn't right for us. We all have subconscious knowledge within us, and we all have guides. We just need to sit still and 'find ourselves', and we will be shown the right path.
Divinorumus
01-03-2010, 01:35 PM
All the answers you seek, all the proof you need, you will find WITHIN.
Failing that, feel free to always ask me. While I proclaim to have all the answers, I can't promise that I can reveal them all (stupid prime directive), but you'll certainly get the right answers from me of those things I am allowed talk about with yous earthlings. :biggrinjester:
Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the universe gets that.
Arthur: Everyone?
Slartibartfast: Everyone.
-- Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Please listen to these great words of wisdom.
blackeyes
01-03-2010, 05:22 PM
Im completely desperate. I guess right now this is just a rant but can anyone relate? What can I do?Welcome to IW Vega1227:) You've come to the right place. The wealth of knowledge here is limitless. Here you find not just great people to converse with but some pretty good researchers.
I've been interested in the unexplained from a very young age. The questions started for me after watching a movie at the drive-in with my parents. The year was 1970. I was 7 years old. The movie 'Chariots of the Gods' (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-373807185570806915#). I was hooked.
Since then I've had an unexplainable craving for more answers. I've answered many of my own questions but there is more to it than that. I'll give you this to start your journey. Believing is seeing. It's your choice to believe unconditionally or expect to be convinced. For example the show on A/E Paranormal State is entertaining but it always throws me when I see them jump or scream or stop everything they are doing to listen for another knock or squeak. In other words if you truly except the reality of ufo's or spirits or multiple dimensions it shouldn't spook you at all. You want answers? Open your mind. Move past the doubt and embrace this new reality. Only then can you find the answers you seek. We can help.
xO1kKemcwYk
Judee
01-03-2010, 06:28 PM
Welcome to IW Vega1227:) You've come to the right place. The wealth of knowledge here is limitless. Here you find not just great people to converse with but some pretty good researchers.
I've been interested in the unexplained from a very young age. The questions started for me after watching a movie at the drive-in with my parents. The year was 1970. I was 7 years old. The movie 'Chariots of the Gods' (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-373807185570806915#). I was hooked.
Since then I've had an unexplainable craving for more answers. I've answered many of my own questions but there is more to it than that. I'll give you this to start your journey. Believing is seeing. It's your choice to believe unconditionally or expect to be convinced. For example the show on A/E Paranormal State is entertaining but it always throws me when I see them jump or scream or stop everything they are doing to listen for another knock or squeak. In other words if you truly except the reality of ufo's or spirits or multiple dimensions it shouldn't spook you at all. You want answers? Open you mind. Move past the doubt and embrace this new reality. Only then can you find the answers you seek. We can help.
xO1kKemcwYk
My eyes being opened started with Chan Thomas back in the 70's, then Sitchin made my head spin 90 degrees around, and the book, The Gods Of Eden wrapped everything up with a nice little red bow.
I remember that movie blackeyes. Also a great eye opener! :)
Divinorumus
01-03-2010, 06:34 PM
Open you mind.
Not so much that ones brains fall out. :33:
RedDog
01-04-2010, 08:36 PM
I guess Vega's head exploded, since Vega only left one post!
That happens some time.
Vega1227
01-06-2010, 12:41 PM
I've been very open minded about the things that i've been hearing and reading about. I completely believe that this civilization is being herded or controlled by outsiders. The way we live now just doesnt make sense. For instance why is currency so important to this world? There are so many other things to life that are far more important than money. I feel like that is the biggest thing thats hinduring our humanity. I bet civilizations from other worlds dont even have currency. Maybe their currency is love! Which I think is great!
Anyway... If the "truth" is inside me How can i tap into it. How do i get clarity? Do I really need years of practice and meditating and researching? Do I need a special code to unlock it? Seriously, I really dont want to spend my whole life searching for things that I have the god given right to know.
I wish I have the power to overthrow whoever or whatever is enslaving the earth. I would give them the beating of their life!
blackeyes
01-06-2010, 02:20 PM
I wish I have the power to overthrow whoever or whatever is enslaving the earth. I would give them the beating of their life!
So you could take their place?? The best weapon against the NWO is knowledge. Knowledge is power. There is no magic pill that will move you forward in your quest. Personally I get most of my power from Alex Jones. That's a good start.
Prison Planet (http://www.prisonplanet.com/)
Topper
01-06-2010, 03:43 PM
My focus was never upon political chaos when researching what happened to my biological father I ended up reading so many declassified documents to know how bad things have become today.
My suggestion is to visit ...www.blackvault.com
for a start before visiting the online public librarys of the CIA/NSA/State Dept/
FBI and the national archives for all there stuff.
It will blow your mind to read the documents from the late 1940's.
blackeyes
01-06-2010, 04:29 PM
My focus was never upon political chaos when researching what happened to my biological father I ended up reading so many declassified documents to know how bad things have become today.
My suggestion is to visit ...www.blackvault.com (http://www.blackvault.com)
for a start before visiting the online public librarys of the CIA/NSA/State Dept/
FBI and the national archives for all there stuff.
It will blow your mind to read the documents from the late 1940's.
Sorry to hear about your dad. The Black Vault is a great site. Thanks for posting it. I've heard of the site a couple of times on coast.
The Black Vault TV (http://www.theblackvault.tv/)
RedDog
01-07-2010, 07:49 PM
I've been very open minded about the things that i've been hearing and reading about. I completely believe that this civilization is being herded or controlled by outsiders. The way we live now just doesnt make sense. For instance why is currency so important to this world? There are so many other things to life that are far more important than money. I feel like that is the biggest thing thats hinduring our humanity. I bet civilizations from other worlds dont even have currency. Maybe their currency is love! Which I think is great!
Anyway... If the "truth" is inside me How can i tap into it. How do i get clarity? Do I really need years of practice and meditating and researching? Do I need a special code to unlock it? Seriously, I really dont want to spend my whole life searching for things that I have the god given right to know.
I wish I have the power to overthrow whoever or whatever is enslaving the earth. I would give them the beating of their life!
It is easier to communicate in parables when asked these kinds of questions
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways.
We find it very hard to drop the habit of youth, which is to see the world through the eyes of a child protected by the parents and controlled by the adults. We whine and complain hoping the parents will give us what we want. Yet the parents and adults realize you cannot do this all the time with the child.
But your concept of Love is valid, not as a currency but as a filter. The same chapter of Corinthians also speaks to this.
13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
Currency is similar to how the human body operates. It is the blood cells of the economic body, without which we could not grow or prosper.
Vega1227
01-08-2010, 02:38 PM
You're right... It does make sense... I just wish i had someone to guide me spiritually. Someone who can steer me in the right direction.
Judee
01-08-2010, 04:08 PM
You're right... It does make sense... I just wish i had someone to guide me spiritually. Someone who can steer me in the right direction.
Vega, I don't mean this to sound blase, but you do have someone who can steer you. It's you!! Within each of us is the knowledge and ability to find what's right for ourselves, and our particular journey. Trust your instincts, and believe in yourself. When you read or hear something, ask yourself how you feel afterwards. Does what you just read or heard feel good to you? If not, move on. It takes a little practice, but you need to learn to trust that inner voice we all have inside of us. That 'voice' is who and what we really are, and it's always there for us. And if we open our hearts and minds, the 'guides' we also all have will be there too, and it will be much easier for you to be open to their help.
RedDog
01-08-2010, 05:22 PM
You're right... It does make sense... I just wish i had someone to guide me spiritually. Someone who can steer me in the right direction.
You might simply start by stepping back from the problems, and take a third or forth person perspective. Perspective is key to deprogramming, or recognizing the meme's and programming which colors your perceptions.
If you can find the internal hooks, filters, overlays, which influence your thinking, you've taken a big step in the right direction. If you seek truth, you have to learn how to recognize truth untainted. It is not what it seems.:cool2: Judee's comment about it being internal is the most accurate starting point. Just remember, there are now other meme's which you have internalized, so always question your perceptions for untainted truth.
maryals
01-08-2010, 05:27 PM
Failing that, feel free to always ask me. While I proclaim to have all the answers, I can't promise that I can reveal them all (stupid prime directive), but you'll certainly get the right answers from me of those things I am allowed talk about with yous earthlings. :biggrinjester:
:notworthy :haha: :laughing: :09:
Please Div we know you ... don't "shine on" the Newbies!
Mary and Bessie :dance:
maryals
01-08-2010, 05:29 PM
Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the universe gets that.
Arthur: Everyone?
Slartibartfast: Everyone.
-- Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Please listen to these great words of wisdom.
And never travel without your Nutrient Towel
Mary and Bessie :dance:
Alpha
01-08-2010, 05:38 PM
Hello Vega 1227 and WELCOME to IW!!
I think you have been given some good advice as a starting point by our members in this thread.
No-one can give you the answers and even if they could, that is not the way it is meant to be.
Our journey here is to learn....gather information, turn it into knowledge, open our eyes...look, see and feel, question and always realize and turn to the power of us...and yes the collective as well, for the answers.
There is no easy road...
I would suggest you start by reading, digging...we have some excellent threads here on just about any topic you may wish to use as a starting point, as well as many wonderful resources on the net, in libraries etc.
Join us or other groups to drill down, gather and discuss the smaller parts of the equation, for if you want to ever see the larger picture, it's starts with the components/piece parts, to that first.
Seriously, I really dont want to spend my whole life searching for things that I have the god given right to know.
I hear you, however sadly that may be just the way it is....there is no instant answer to "ubiquitous truth" ;)
maryals
01-08-2010, 05:45 PM
If I may add to what Judee is saying, you must pray for discernment.
The catch phrase from the 1960's "If it feels good do it" is utter foolishness. With discernment you can take Judee's advice of looking to how something "feels" and note, whether it's just a quick feels good now damn the consequences or is it a good feeling of peace or wisdom. And that just comes with experience. Time. Sometimes in order to have your questions answered you must be patient Grasshopper :hug:
It's also been my experience that Answers come as you are ready. You may think you are ready but God, or Goddess or The Cosmos or your Higher Self (whatever you believe in) knows better.
Oh, and WELCOME!!!
Mary and Bessie :dance:
maryals
01-08-2010, 05:48 PM
P.S. Gathering answers, knowledge, "Truth" IS a Life Long Journey. IMO it's what gives this Journey thru University Humanness purpose. That and sharing/using what we have learned.
Mary and Bessie :dance:
Vega1227
01-08-2010, 08:58 PM
Vega, I don't mean this to sound blase, but you do have someone who can steer you. It's you!! Within each of us is the knowledge and ability to find what's right for ourselves, and our particular journey. Trust your instincts, and believe in yourself. When you read or hear something, ask yourself how you feel afterwards. Does what you just read or heard feel good to you? If not, move on. It takes a little practice, but you need to learn to trust that inner voice we all have inside of us. That 'voice' is who and what we really are, and it's always there for us. And if we open our hearts and minds, the 'guides' we also all have will be there too, and it will be much easier for you to be open to their help.
Thank you for that bit of advice. It helps me a lot. Im going to try to listen harder for my inner voice. I want to meet my guide. Even if it takes years.
Vega1227
01-08-2010, 09:18 PM
You know it feels good to know that there are people who are trying to find the same thing that im seeking.
To me It literally feels like this world has many layers. To me there is some truth to every story. Like every fairy tale is referencing something that has happened or something that really exists. That feeling in the back of my mind. Is that what some of you are talking about? Is that the "voice"?
If thats true does that mean that everything that I suspect is true or exists is not just in my imagination but is truth?
VOguy
01-09-2010, 08:58 AM
To me It literally feels like this world has many layers. To me there is some truth to every story. Like every fairy tale is referencing something that has happened or something that really exists. That feeling in the back of my mind. Is that what some of you are talking about? Is that the "voice"?
Just like everyone who reads a book comes away with impressions of different chapters, life is a never ending set of impressions and questions.
We often find ourselves in situations where we act, and later when we have time to think the voice rationalizes a better way or a different path to take. It's sort of like having a radio on in your home with the music playing loud, and someone is calling you from another room. You don't hear "their voice".
It takes patience and practice to silence the "noise" around you so you can hear the voice from within. I believe that the voice has always been with us, but our lifestyle and environment around us is like the radio drowning out the message we need to hear.
Vega, when I need answers and the world is closing in on me, I find some quiet time and put on some smooth jazz or something light, close my eyes, and calmly think about what is happening. You find that the answers are from within you, it's just that you have to block out all the distractions and noise around you which is offering unrequested or unneeded uninformed advice.
Practice it, and eventually you get to the point where you can be somewhere and something happens, and the voice literally comes from within with the answer.
Vega1227
01-09-2010, 12:04 PM
Thank you so much for the advice. I will use it.
RedDog
01-11-2010, 08:40 PM
Glad we could help another fellow in the quest for truth...in all its forms.
Hadriana
01-16-2010, 03:25 AM
Well....you seem to have a very good heart - I get that impression and I don't even know why.
But...I will say that I have seen a lot with my own eyes. And that it won't give you many answers, instead it can make it worse. I'm SO serious. It's human to want some validation. The first few supernatural manifestations that I witnessed, I was alone. I had no validation. It was maybe more frustrating than wanting to know if it was a cut and dried world or if there really was something else.
I can tell you, there IS a lot more, but you won't believe me because you have to find it for yourself.
Then I had an experience of complete and crazy telepathy. We were stunned about stupid when it happened, but we WERE under the influence of LSD, so it was easy to 'pawn it off' on that.
One good thing about group and coven work is that you WILL have others that witness things with you, and you'll get your validation. I dunno, maybe you won't need it, but I found that I went from wanting 'proof' to wanting 'validation' and now...now what is there?
If you ever have an utter mystical union type experience....you'll know nothing will ever compare with that. I feel I have a great deal of faith, but I also have a lot of ambivalence. I am a happy person, but I'm ready to go and it isn't time yet.
You might think as a seeker if you get to see you will quit seeking, but it won't stop. The rabbit hole is pretty deep. The seeking merely becomes a constant fight to understand so that you can keep from falling all at once.
The actual experience is a lot like a combination of being hit HARD over the head so that it stuns you silly, and ecstatic amazement that shakes your very core...but because to GET there, you have to lose the "I", you'll always know the I doesn't exist....and it's kinda nice having an I. It's secure and satisfying to the ego.
I'm babbling but that's all I've ever been able to do about this sort of subject.
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