Madness in the Fast Lane - Bizzare Twins - Unnatural Behaviors

[pyrite]

http://www.colinandrews.net/StrangenessOnM6-England2008.html


possible programming failure?...very bizzare

[maryals]

Like something from The X-Files TV Show! There were no drugs or alcohol found in their systems. Bizarre is right!

Mary and Bessie :wall:

[Alpha]

This is more than bizarre!! Great find py :biggthump

Yeah, programming failure or experiment comes to mind alright. However that doesn't explain or give any answer to how either of them had seemingly no physical injuries when they either should have been in traction or dead!!!!

The up close photo of one of the twins is more than eerie.

I am assuming that since medical tests were done, they appear to be biologically human.

I'll put up the BBC doc on this for easy reference....just watched the first part :yikes:

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Other parts here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6e3OwOws3I&feature=player_embedded)

Some MC or other testing with hybrids perhaps? :thinking:

[pyrite]

This is more than bizarre!! Great find py :biggthump

Yeah, programming failure or experiment comes to mind alright. However that doesn't explain or give any answer to how either of them had seemingly no physical injuries when they either should have been in traction or dead!!!!

The up close photo of one of the twins is more than eerie.

I am assuming that since medical tests were done, they appear to be biologically human.

I'll put up the BBC doc on this for easy reference....just watched the first part :yikes:

k6e3OwOws3I

Other parts here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6e3OwOws3I&feature=player_embedded)

Some MC or other testing with hybrids perhaps? :thinking:

my first thought was made in a lab, monsanto babies or something...they were hit full on and completely run over(more than once)...i have watched the whole show, the authorities cannot explain these women....whitley posted it on face book, i looked up the program videos...

[maryals]

Whitley Strieber does share some great stuff on FaceBook. I'm sure he doesn't mind when we share it here...so long as we give him credit!
Ditto Linda Moulton Howe

Mary and Bessie

[Alpha]

I'm half way into part 3 of this doc here:

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What is standing out for me right now, is that they are identical twins and one has been in the US for some reason.....the other one not.

Also, that they allegedly are 45 years old.

Vestiges of a Mengele experiment? ...no memory, recall and/or concern about the identical twin sister.

This is one crazy story and ride and I'm not done with it yet...at minimum to the BBC version of what happened.

I can't find much more on the net either.

Anyone else other than py, I want to take some time to watch this and share what you think?

[pyrite]

I'm half way into part 3 of this doc here:

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What is standing out for me right now, is that they are identical twins and one has been in the US for some reason.....the other one not.

Also, that they allegedly are 45 years old.

Vestiges of a Mengele experiment? ...no memory, recall and/or concern about the identical twin sister.

This is one crazy story and ride and I'm not done with it yet...at minimum to the BBC version of what happened.

I can't find much more on the net either.

Anyone else other than py, I want to take some time to watch this and share what you think?

its amazing...some monkey business about the pass port, but, the ability to take a direct hit by more than one car, one twin with two brokn legs yet still able to violently attack the police all reeks of one of those montauk project or manchurian candidate type situations

[Alpha]

"induced Disillusional Disorder" ....yeah right...don't think so.,,,induced by what or whom?

Another case of alleged "science" trying to force a square peg into a predetermined round hole....another case about how they/we have no true understanding of the human brain, the so called labeled psyche or much of anything else......or even considering other possibility.

The video and subject matter was very disturbing, yet very interesting py. :notworthy:

The so called conclusion of the so called psychiatrists have me hopping mad. They addressed NOTHING.

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Damn....think I better let it rest for a while :wave: :banghead:

Guess this is what RedDog coins “information dense dialogue”....of another kind!! :) :wink1:

Thanks py...great thread and great stuff to ponder :notworthy: :)

[fabucat]

First, the condition in which two people share a type of madness is so relatively common, there's a name for it: folie a deux[B[/B] In addition, mental illnesses, when they strike twins, affect both twins, especially if they are identical.

I don't know what to think, but in my anecdotal observations, mentally ill people rarely seem to get sick, and often they can do outrageous things and never get hurt. I can't prove this scientifically, but neither can anyone prove that these women are genetically engineered, are aliens, or "demons" (a term I particularly hate, due to overtones of Medieval religious persecution). I've seen people high on PCP show ridiculously dangerous strength. I once saw a guy high on PCP leap over a five foot fence like it was nothing. I know that the women tested negative for drugs and alcohol. But what if their personal biochemistries mimicked the effects of PCP?

I think that it does a disservice to the millions of mentally ill people out there to call these women "demons," genetically engineered, or aliens. Mental illness should be treated like any other illness, like heart disease, or a brain tumor, and its victims should not be "demonized."

[pyrite]

First, the condition in which two people share a type of madness is so relatively common, there's a name for it: folie a deux[B[/B] In addition, mental illnesses, when they strike twins, affect both twins, especially if they are identical.

I don't know what to think, but in my anecdotal observations, mentally ill people rarely seem to get sick, and often they can do outrageous things and never get hurt. I can't prove this scientifically, but neither can anyone prove that these women are genetically engineered, are aliens, or "demons" (a term I particularly hate, due to overtones of Medieval religious persecution). I've seen people high on PCP show ridiculously dangerous strength. I once saw a guy high on PCP leap over a five foot fence like it was nothing. I know that the women tested negative for drugs and alcohol. But what if their personal biochemistries mimicked the effects of PCP?

I think that it does a disservice to the millions of mentally ill people out there to call these women "demons," genetically engineered, or aliens. Mental illness should be treated like any other illness, like heart disease, or a brain tumor, and its victims should not be "demonized."

when someone gets run over by an 18 wheeler and the bones are sticking out of their legs and they still can fight with ther rescuers( as if nothing was wrong).when they both got hit by cars driving a a rapid speed and they just get up with no damage, even after denting the cars and smashing the windshhields,when one gets knocked out and gets up and throws herself infront of yet another car, when she goes and murders someone...this is not even within the definition of mental illness......the twins had not even been together, there was strange things about passports...it reeks of something far more than mental illness....no one here demonizes mental illness....this is something more....

[fabucat]

my first thought was made in a lab, monsanto babies or something...they were hit full on and completely run over(more than once)...i have watched the whole show, the authorities cannot explain these women....whitley posted it on face book, i looked up the program videos...

OK, I watched the whole thing. Both twins did not get out of this unscathed. One of the twins WAS seriously injured and stayed in hospital for months. Sabina, the murderer, was just plain damned lucky not to get hurt. I'm pretty liberal and all but I think that the cops should have kept her in custody longer. I mean, in the USA, someone who'd recently attempted suicide and who'd assaulted police officers would've been sent to the psych ward for observation. Although I feel sorry for the woman, I feel lots sorrier for her victim and the cops who had to deal with her BS. It's also creepy that she got such a light sentence. There was no discussion of the twins' background, the way there usually is in most true crime docs--that's the only suspicious thing about this---but that could mean anything...We just don't know.

I'm sorry, but I don't get alien or paranormal vibes out of this, and I've experienced some minor paranormal events. This was garden-variety gritty criminal insanity--made bizarre because there were 2 of 'em, who were twins.

I've seen a lot better paranormal evidence than this, I'm sorry.
Finally, I think that contrary to the shrink, folie a deux is more common than he says. I've often witnessed it myself with "crazy couples." I had these two friends who were very normal, average people--one guy was from the Midwest and then a female friend from DC. They didn't know one another until they moved to LA, met, and got romantically involved. What followed was a year of insanity, during which they had horrible fights in public (my female friend took a busted wineglass and tried to stab her boyfriend etc.), and more. Finally to everyone's relief, they broke up, married other people, became respectable citizens again and lived normal lives.

Anyway, I WISH that I could have gotten the paranormal vibe out of this, but it didn't do it for me.

[fabucat]

when someone gets run over by an 18 wheeler and the bones are sticking out of their legs and they still can fight with ther rescuers( as if nothing was wrong).when they both got hit by cars driving a a rapid speed and they just get up with no damage, even after denting the cars and smashing the windshhields,when one gets knocked out and gets up and throws herself infront of yet another car, when she goes and murders someone...this is not even within the definition of mental illness......the twins had not even been together, there was strange things about passports...it reeks of something far more than mental illness....no one here demonizes mental illness....this is something more....

I'm sure you've dealt with crazy people in your professional life...unfortunately, I've dealt with enough sociopaths and criminally insane people that I can fully believe that a woman who has recently tried to commit suicide also can commit murder. It's not a stretch. Sure there are tons of holes in the story--their family background, their adult lives, etc., etc., which we won't ever know. The only thing paranormal about this true crime story is that Sabina escaped injury. This could have been luck. The paranormal angle would've been more convincing had Ursula also gotten through the motorway unscathed.

I don't think it's unusual for sisters, especially twins, who live in different countries, to get together on holiday.

The creepiest thing about this is that Ursula currently lives in the USA....I wanna call ICE and tell 'em to deport her crazy a**! I have pity for the mentally ill, but we've got enough crazy native born Americans. We don't need crazy immigrants, lol.

[pyrite]

OK, I watched the whole thing. Both twins did not get out of this unscathed. One of the twins WAS seriously injured and stayed in hospital for months. Sabina, the murderer, was just plain damned lucky not to get hurt. I'm pretty liberal and all but I think that the cops should have kept her in custody longer. I mean, in the USA, someone who'd recently attempted suicide and who'd assaulted police officers would've been sent to the psych ward for observation. Although I feel sorry for the woman, I feel lots sorrier for her victim and the cops who had to deal with her BS. It's also creepy that she got such a light sentence. There was no discussion of the twins' background, the way there usually is in most true crime docs--that's the only suspicious thing about this---but that could mean anything...We just don't know.

I'm sorry, but I don't get alien or paranormal vibes out of this, and I've experienced some minor paranormal events. This was garden-variety gritty criminal insanity--made bizarre because there were 2 of 'em, who were twins.

I've seen a lot better paranormal evidence than this, I'm sorry.
Finally, I think that contrary to the shrink, folie a deux is more common than he says. I've often witnessed it myself with "crazy couples." I had these two friends who were very normal, average people--one guy was from the Midwest and then a female friend from DC. They didn't know one another until they moved to LA, met, and got romantically involved. What followed was a year of insanity, during which they had horrible fights in public (my female friend took a busted wineglass and tried to stab her boyfriend etc.), and more. Finally to everyone's relief, they broke up, married other people, became respectable citizens again and lived normal lives.

Anyway, I WISH that I could have gotten the paranormal vibe out of this, but it didn't do it for me.

the twin with the broken legs was still able to fight violently with the responders, as if she wasnt injured...but what we are talking about isnt supernatural nor paranormal....there are documented government programs about mind control ...this situation has many of the signs of being a part of one of those programs, thats what we are curious about....

[Dakota]

Man, this is one of the craziest things I've seen in a long time. The CIA, Nazis did a lot of mind control stuff. Take a look at this.

<snip>At this same time the Nazis were coming to power in Germany and were conducting eugenics experiments to create a new master race. A top SS (Schutzstaffel) officer, Heinrich Himmler, headed a project named Lebersborn in which children were selectively bred. Many of these bred children were genetically engineered sets of twins who were separated and "placed" in adoptive families and then were monitored and studied. These pairs of separated twins were viewed as the ultimate study in behavioral modification because they were able to use one twin as a control point to gauge the other twin's response.

The programming used on these children was quite sophisticated and included preconditioned, trained responses triggered by code words, mnemonic cues and audio-reversed messages and tones that activated the programming. This "new" science had reached a level of critical mass, a point of no return, and the repercussions would shape not only the coming war years but life thereafter.<snip>

http://www.mormonstruth.org/CIA_LDS.html

[pyrite]

Man, this is one of the craziest things I've seen in a long time. The CIA, Nazis did a lot of mind control stuff. Take a look at this.

<snip>At this same time the Nazis were coming to power in Germany and were conducting eugenics experiments to create a new master race. A top SS (Schutzstaffel) officer, Heinrich Himmler, headed a project named Lebersborn in which children were selectively bred. Many of these bred children were genetically engineered sets of twins who were separated and "placed" in adoptive families and then were monitored and studied. These pairs of separated twins were viewed as the ultimate study in behavioral modification because they were able to use one twin as a control point to gauge the other twin's response.

The programming used on these children was quite sophisticated and included preconditioned, trained responses triggered by code words, mnemonic cues and audio-reversed messages and tones that activated the programming. This "new" science had reached a level of critical mass, a point of no return, and the repercussions would shape not only the coming war years but life thereafter.<snip>

http://www.mormonstruth.org/CIA_LDS.html

i have identical twin sons, and one of those twins has twin daughters...but have never observed anything like what is displayed in this video...something was controlling them, to be hit by cars as such a high speed and to get up and do it again and again....this really reeks of mind control...especially since the had been separated for a long time...

[Alpha]

L A Marzulli was talking about this bizarre case on Coast tonight. Thought I'd bump this thread up for those of you either looking for the videos and/or those who missed it.

[DarkoMarco]

I just don't know what to say. I watched all four BBC clips,,,,,,,,this looks like some Bourne Identity shit.

I have some opinions,,,but,,,they certainly don't involve the diagnosis given by the shrinks.

Notice they were going on and on about thier organs getting harvested???
Why would they do that?
Were they twins or clones????
I'm just saying,,,,,,you have to factor the information they gave.

Did you see thier up close mug shots?
45 and not a freakin wrinkle on thier face.
Look under the eyes,,,,no lines.

Why was thier childhood never discussed?
There was no mention of where they grew up.
Sweden? The U.S.? An underground lab?
No mention of parents.

Did they each have an unbelievable story,,,,,,that,,,,,,when cross referenced with the other sister,,,,,seemed strikingly similiar,,,providing validation for cognizent dissadence to be dissapated????
Did their stories match up,,,,and a ,,,,oh my God,,,,you mean that shit really happened moment took place?

Their ability to take damage was amazing. Ran over by a semi. Ran over by a car, got up and was FINE. Jumjped off a FORTY foot bridge and only broke her ankles?
There is a thirty foot cliff at a lake I go too,,,people jump off of it iinto water,,,,when you are looking down,,,it is like,,,dang,,,,if I hit a rock I am dead.


Dr Stephen Greer has gone on at length, saying the black ops department is always forty years ahead of what the public knows about.
His daughter is a Doctor of biology and a geneticist,,,she told him the black ops departments have probably been able to clone since the 60's.

These two sister seem to be a superior stock.
Did the Nazi's from project paper clip continue thier work?

[pyrite]

another bizare twin story....both seem to be mind control to me..
.http://www.colinandrews.net/AustralianTwins.html

[maryals]

L.A. Marzuli was on Coast again, this deserves another bump!!

Mary and Baby

[Alpha]

John B Wells and LA Marzulli were talking about this last night on Coast. LA seems to feel that the twins are either ET hybrids or some kind of sever ritual abuse victims.:thinking:

[Alpha]

L.A. Marzuli was on Coast again, this deserves another bump!!

Mary and Baby

LOL Mary....great minds think alike I guess...we both did the same thing :hug: :)

[Project]

I watched the first part, will continue with the rest later... The part with the woman scratching and spitting at the police despite having 2 broken legs is not that strange, I have witnessed things like this. When people are in shock they can do or say many weird things, and often do not feel pain. I am not saying this story is not totally weird, just that part I can understand.