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Sadhu
09-14-2010, 05:43 PM
There are many forms of meditation, with well thought-out prescribed techniques, some of which are full of siddha, while some times emotional contemplation is also referred to as "meditation". What form of meditation do you practice?

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blackeyes
09-15-2010, 09:01 AM
I used to meditate in my twenties. I'd just been through rehad and was seeking out drugless highs. The high didn't last long and neither did my interest. Honestly though I am strongly considering continuing to practice it. We need clear thinkers these days.

Sadhu
09-15-2010, 02:48 PM
Yes indeed we do, BlackEyes, clear thinkers are imperative. Whatever is possible is happening somewhere in the Universe, though rather than going backwards, regressing, the foreward progressive movement of evolution deserves to be hastened, especially by the hands of humans.

The technique you used, in your twenties, may have been relevant at that time, or perhaps something more specific would be appropriate, which may be why it didn't click with you. For pain mitigation there are techniques available, as well as for healing, and always for liberation.

One of the obstacles people have is they don't grok the technique they've been given, though the problem may not be with the technique. Methods and mantras that have been given siddha are far more furtive than simply getting something out of a book, though consumptionism is not the right approach to subtler realms of being at all, though consumptionism is so ubiquitous in modern culture, pseudo-culture, that it's often the only frame of mind people perceive reality with.

I dealt with an allopath-in-training yesterday, a post doctorate in doctoring, who grew up in China long after Mao's severe materialism had virtually erased cultural memory from nearly every Chinese living, particularly the subtle exercises -- of mind, body and vitality -- flourishing greater thresholds of being human for any practitioner anywhere in the world. When I spoke of Chi Kung/Qi Gong with him, he spoke of such things being old superstitions of doing things impossible to do. I have acheived the ultimate possible in practicing chi kung, samadhi, and I wish such experiences for every being on the planet and in the Universe. When I told him of some of the subtle abilities one can acheive through effective meditation techniques he called it self-hypnosis, when I told him of things I had witnessed my chi kung instructor and my guru perform, he called that mass hypnosis.

Having caps on ones mind are shackels upon this privilege of human birth, and perpetuating such shackles is the acceptance of slavery, and the forfeiture of one's humanity. All proper meditation techniques are designed for liberation, not ignorance. We face ignorant notions as we meditate, that is one reason why some people quit, and why some people do nothing more than copy and paste fancy colorful pieces yet never get around to practicing the real thing.

If a person is matured past a consumptionistic attitude toward subtle practices, than an appropriate pranayama [control of vital energy] and dharna [prescribed focusing techniques] would be quite meaningful for their wellbeing, your wellbeing, BlackEyes.



I used to meditate in my twenties. I'd just been through rehad and was seeking out drugless highs. The high didn't last long and neither did my interest. Honestly though I am strongly considering continuing to practice it. We need clear thinkers these days.

Dakota
09-26-2010, 01:10 PM
No but I want to learn. How do I get started?

Judee
09-26-2010, 03:31 PM
Having caps on ones mind are shackels upon this privilege of human birth, and perpetuating such shackles is the acceptance of slavery, and the forfeiture of one's humanity. All proper meditation techniques are designed for liberation, not ignorance. We face ignorant notions as we meditate, that is one reason why some people quit, and why some people do nothing more than copy and paste fancy colorful pieces yet never get around to practicing the real thing.

If a person is matured past a consumptionistic attitude toward subtle practices, than an appropriate pranayama [control of vital energy] and dharna [prescribed focusing techniques] would be quite meaningful for their wellbeing, your wellbeing, BlackEyes.

Oh so true Sadhu. So very true!! We are all capable of miracles, each and every one of us! But in order to attain that state, one must first believe beyond doubt that it is possible!!

Sadhu
09-28-2010, 11:12 PM
Both sentiment and method are quite important, Dakota. Method should always have a progressive momentum, from crude to subtle, harnessing our attention and senses to the focus of our sentiments, a sentiment that is both personal, personable and fulfilling in a relationship with the focus of our ideation. Technique aside for the moment, rapport with our greatest love is most propicious, the constancy that is always there, regardless of with what form we share the love with.

This focus transcends the capacities of any distractions, and, anchored in this ubiquity of love, natural ethics flourish in our mindframes and relations. Respond privately to my query about location, I can assist you in private instruction that will meet these characteristics. Occult skills and spiritual intimacy are not shopping items, they must be treated with respect and prescribed for each person individually.



No but I want to learn. How do I get started?

Sadhu
09-28-2010, 11:15 PM
Very true, Judee. It's as simple as reframing one's mind, and in doing so, resembling the natural splendors of our child-like mindset.



Oh so true Sadhu. So very true!! We are all capable of miracles, each and every one of us! But in order to attain that state, one must first believe beyond doubt that it is possible!!

Dakota
09-29-2010, 06:44 PM
Both sentiment and method are quite important, Dakota. Method should always have a progressive momentum, from crude to subtle, harnessing our attention and senses to the focus of our sentiments, a sentiment that is both personal, personable and fulfilling in a relationship with the focus of our ideation. Technique aside for the moment, rapport with our greatest love is most propicious, the constancy that is always there, regardless of with what form we share the love with.

This focus transcends the capacities of any distractions, and, anchored in this ubiquity of love, natural ethics flourish in our mindframes and relations. Respond privately to my query about location, I can assist you in private instruction that will meet these characteristics. Occult skills and spiritual intimacy are not shopping items, they must be treated with respect and prescribed for each person individually.

Whao man. Tx really. but that is way, way over my head and brain. I just want to know how to get started mediating. Can you or anyone give some 101 in plain simple English to help me get going?

Are you some foreign scribe or something that talks in riddles?

My brain runs a million miles a minute. I have read things on trying to get started with calming the mind and looking at something like a candle or a flame. It's not working.

Sadhu
09-29-2010, 07:51 PM
My dear Dakota, everything is available to all people all the time, it's just a matter of relaxing into the fundaments of life, most ubiquitous of which is love. In that comfortable and fulfilling disposition we both find wonder in the Universe, its faculties that operate it, and the centricity from, through and toward which it all operates, enveloping the whole, in our heart/mind as a singular whole. However befuddled we may be in the minute details of the world, the Universe or our lives, the constancy is that whatever brought forth this Universe brought forth us too, brought forth you, and all of your talents -- the most mundane and the most sublime, and all of your greatest joys originate from that same Universe just as you do, and everything you want to be, want to do, have everything to do with that same Universe and your intimacy with it.

My mind races too, though I have experienced times, as you have, of indeed focused concentration and sublime joy, as when we embrace a loved one, forgetting where one person ends and the other begins, for we have merged into a singular whole in our mutual embrace, just as, in evolutionary time, the cells of your body have come together to a new threshold, of sublimity and excellence that is you today. Just as the symphony of your homeostasis operates within you, without need, most of the time, of your conscious attention, affecting each and every cell, so does the Universe in relation to us, individually and collectively. This intimacy remains constant, without embellishment on the part of the Universe, an unequivocating love ever more discoverable as we explore its fathomless depths. People and books that claim otherwise are morally misguided and aberrational to our personal and collective progress.

Start with such intimacy, your focus will remain constant, for everything is within the Universe, the object of your attention as you are its object of attention. From this state of mind, a method can arrive.

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Whao man. Tx really. but that is way, way over my head and brain. I just want to know how to get started mediating. Can you or anyone give some 101 in plain simple English to help me get going?

Are you some foreign scribe or something that talks in riddles?

My brain runs a million miles a minute. I have read things on trying to get started with calming the mind and looking at something like a candle or a flame. It's not working.

MuseNoir
09-29-2010, 08:48 PM
I have found Jack Kornfield's guided meditations and lectures to be extremely helpful.

http://www.jackkornfield.org/home.php