This is the first time I saw a ghost. Do you have a first?

[DarkoMarco]

Have you ever done an open eye meditation? Eye movement instantly snaps you out of meditation, strangely, it is harder to keep your eyes still while they are closed, as such, open eye meditation works wonders. I get mine from Carlos Castaneda, my favorite is using a small pebble to stare at to exclusian of everything else. The pebble, especially granite, absorbs your energy and starts to feel like a part of you, making it a deeper, easier meditation.

After doing this for a while (each person is different), the pebble being filled with energy from staring at it becomes "wavy" in a short while, everything becomes "wavy", I do believe this is a field that connects all living things. I suppose that is debatable though. After doing this meditation for a few years. Thirteen to be exact, the following took place.

I was lying in bed, open eye meditating on the cieling. I was staring at a piece of protruding stucco instead of a small pebble.
I then saw a tether of sorts, coming down from the cieling, what looked like the bottom of a old ragged cotton skirt, but more tentacle like. It was not unlike an eye floaty.
Transluscent and strangely searching. I normally blink stuff like this away. And I'm sure I could have done so this time as well, but some small part of me said go with it. So instead of shaking away the sight of this belt like apendige I went with it.

The aparition went away on it's own, so, I continued with my meditation. I didn't think anything too wierd about it, but now I was noticing a red tint that was blinking on everything about once a second.
I only barely noticed it, and thought with barely any significance that it must be my heart pumping blood into my retina. And then I saw a skeletal face in the red blinking tint.

You know those guys who read way too much? I'm one of those guys. I'm not flattering myself here, I actually think it counter productive to read too much.
Well, regardless, I for some reason, knew that this was an entitiy straight out of the tibetan book of the dead. A preta-loka. A hungry ghost.
Mind you I had never seen one before. I had never seen anything like this before. As as a neophyte in reiki I did something intuitive, I held out the palms of my hands and said "You don't have to take my energy, I'll give it to you".
I then watched my energy flow into the palms of this entity. I watched my energy flowing up his arms and giving his shoulders form.

I say this because, almost every single night terror I have had since, I could attribute to a ghost.
Upon waking I would sense their presense, and with a little effort, I could see them as well.
But although night terrors for me are extremely rare, a ghost in my dreams, is not. Most emotionally intense dreams I have of any kind I will wake up and notice a ghost in my room.
The Tibetan book of the dead states that ghosts who refuse to pass into the next world are disconnected from the life force of creation, and as such, must take it from the living. This is most easilly done by elliciting an emotional responce from a living person ie fear, terror, love, sensuality, sexuality, shame, inadequacy.

As a last message, if you want to see a ghost for your self. And that's entirely up to you, (carefull they may really like you after this).
This may seem counter productive, but after meditating and gaining stillness of mind, sit in complete darkness.
Ghosts are easiest to see in complete darkness. Willingly giving ghosts energy is an intoxicant most ghosts are incapable of refusing. So the palms facing outwards and projecting energy in the dark is a sure fire way to get some results.

[Judee]

Great stuff Marco!! I often see 'ghosts' or whatever one wants to call them while in between that state of sleep and awake. They present as smokey wisps, and if I remain still and open my mind, faces will appear. I believe that we are surrounded by 'ghosts' all the time, but we just don't see them. It is the state of our minds that decides whether they will present themselves, and that can be in a good way, or a bad way. We ultimately have the control, but many people don't realize that, and so fear sets in.

[Alpha]

Great stuff Marco!! I often see 'ghosts' or whatever one wants to call them while in between that state of sleep and awake. They present as smokey wisps, and if I remain still and open my mind, faces will appear. I believe that we are surrounded by 'ghosts' all the time, but we just don't see them. It is the state of our minds that decides whether they will present themselves, and that can be in a good way, or a bad way. We ultimately have the control, but many people don't realize that, and so fear sets in.

That's exactly the point IMO Judee....how do we define a "ghost" and/or differentiate it form another "being", "entity", "energy" or "spirit" etc?

DM, we have had these chats before on the forum.

We have some "long timers" here and although most of us believe in varied "entities" "energies" , "beings" or whatever one chooses to call them, for most of us...I"m pretty confident in saying don't equate all experience to a catch all label of a "ghost",

Typically the term "ghost" in most vernacular and definition falls into one of 2 broad categories: 1) residual energy of place, time experience that seems to repeat for whatever reason, over and over again, without any interactivity....2) energy or interactivity with those who once lived or were housed within a physical human body, who no longer are and are seemingly able to "interact" within this 3rd dimensional reality/plane/ existance.

I don't agree, or at minimum my CBT is that all beings or manifests of them, do not fit into the "ghost" category.

Honestly I'm not trying to pick on you at all, or your CBT.

However that said, I think if we want to continue this discussion on a common thread of reference, than please once again define what your definition of a "ghost" or "ghostly" phenomenon is.

Otherwise, I don't know if we can really talk about it as, many/most here, to my best understanding, don't see or agree that all "paranormal" interaction with beings, energies or things we don't understand are "ghosts", in the conventional definition.

As an example, I have seen shadow beings all of my life...I do not believe they are the same as "ghosts" within "classic definition"....nor is what appears during some sleep paralysis..."old hag" or other..

OK....so again please share with us what your criteria/definition of a "ghost" is.

From my CBT and definition, No...I have never seen one...I have felt the presence of recently departed souls/energy from this reality and I have experienced many other things, none of which I would call the classic manifest or presence of what is conventionally deemed a "ghost".

Great discussion here...let's keep this going...

[DarkoMarco]

Great stuff Marco!! I often see 'ghosts' or whatever one wants to call them while in between that state of sleep and awake. They present as smokey wisps, and if I remain still and open my mind, faces will appear. I believe that we are surrounded by 'ghosts' all the time, but we just don't see them. It is the state of our minds that decides whether they will present themselves, and that can be in a good way, or a bad way. We ultimately have the control, but many people don't realize that, and so fear sets in.

I agree, I think they are around us all the time as well....

[DarkoMarco]

I struggled for a bit when first seeing these things as to what they were. I wasn't really ruling anything out. I thought, and felt they were ghosts, but, I knew dang well I could be wrong. The thought of me being wrong in the defining of what I was seeing lent eerie posibilities as to what these things could be, LOL far more eerie than even the definition of ghosts.

A strange event occured about six months after all this started that lent corroboration to my defining of the events.
The event was synchronistic, and I felt, a gift for a gift.

I was laying on my couch about six months after my above first mentioned incident, reading a book, when what I felt was an extremely strong ghost presense that entered the room.

I once again, don't advise people to do this, but I felt the impulse to give this entitiy energy. What ensued was a mental conversation(it took well over an hour) that ended up in this being crossing over (in my opinion). When this happened an opening of sorts appeared and (i know this sounds kinda crazy) my living room was flooded with pinkish astral light.

This astral light combined with the energy field that courses through all things, making the field that naturally surroundes everything, easier to see, more pronounced. In the field, I saw a still picuture. The picture was of a pretty thirty something latin lady with a Betty Page hair cut cought in mid laugh.

The picture stayed in the field of energy for like five minutes. I sensed a positive presense that had come through the portal to help in the transition process, and I felt the presense stating that this picture is no accident.

The next day I was looking through the classified adds looking at cars. I was looking to buy a used car, and as I flipped the classifieds the obituaries flopped open and there, staring back at me, was the exact same picture of the woman I had seen on my wall the night before.

I was floored. I could now take it to the bank that what I was seeing were in fact ghosts, and that sense of knowing for sure has helped me immensly.
I guess you could say I'm kinda slow.
I'm not saying that every spectral presense is a ghost, but I definatly think the majority of them are.

[DarkoMarco]

That's exactly the point IMO Judee....how do we define a "ghost" and/or differentiate it form another "being", "entity", "energy" or "spirit" etc?

DM, we have had these chats before on the forum.

We have some "long timers" here and although most of us believe in varied "entities" "energies" , "beings" or whatever one chooses to call them, for most of us...I"m pretty confident in saying don't equate all experience to a catch all label of a "ghost",

Typically the term "ghost" in most vernacular and definition falls into one of 2 broad categories: 1) residual energy of place, time experience that seems to repeat for whatever reason, over and over again, without any interactivity....2) energy or interactivity with those who once lived or were housed within a physical human body, who no longer are and are seemingly able to "interact" within this 3rd dimensional reality/plane/ existance.

I don't agree, or at minimum my CBT is that all beings or manifests of them, do not fit into the "ghost" category.

Honestly I'm not trying to pick on you at all, or your CBT.

However that said, I think if we want to continue this discussion on a common thread of reference, than please once again define what your definition of a "ghost" or "ghostly" phenomenon is.

Otherwise, I don't know if we can really talk about it as, many/most here, to my best understanding, don't see or agree that all "paranormal" interaction with beings, energies or things we don't understand are "ghosts", in the conventional definition.

As an example, I have seen shadow beings all of my life...I do not believe they are the same as "ghosts" within "classic definition"....nor is what appears during some sleep paralysis..."old hag" or other..

OK....so again please share with us what your criteria/definition of a "ghost" is.

From my CBT and definition, No...I have never seen one...I have felt the presence of recently departed souls/energy from this reality and I have experienced many other things, none of which I would call the classic manifest or presence of what is conventionally deemed a "ghost".

Great discussion here...let's keep this going...

I agree with what your saying here.
It's just difficult to open this Pandoras box. I pick the lid up here though. I just put up a personal story, Mind Parasites - A story Illustrating soul leaching energy parasites (http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?19720-Mind-Parasites-A-story-illustrating-soul-leaching-energy-parasites).

[DarkoMarco]

Alpha found this video and posted it in Thread: Orbs - What are they? (http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?5173-Orbs-What-are-they/page8)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEHaszh6Nc&feature=player_embedded

This is the first time I have ever heard anybody say exactly what I see in the complete dark.

I've often given people the procedure for seeing a ghost in the dark, and amazingly enough this guy sees pretty much what I see, I see reddish blobs of energy in the dark, and this guy is right there with me.
This guy is right on the money, and I totally give it up to him through my own corroberated personal experiences.

I've often told people, and I've given people lessons in this.
If you want to see a ghost with your own eyes, sit in absolute darkness,,,and when I say absolulte, I mean absolute.
Put a towel under the door, unplug the alarm clock, and I gotta say, it's tottally cool if you got a homey there for moral support.
Ask if there are any ghosts in the vicinty and while you are beckoning hold out your palms and project energy out of the palms of your hands.
Ghosts are almost ALWAYS in the vicinity, so, as long as your energetically compatable, and about 90% of people are, they should be there.

There is an excerpt from one of the Carlos Castaneda books, where Don Juan states "mankind is not afraid of the dark because he can not see in it, it was what he can see in it that makes mankind afraid of the dark