Boy Born Without a Cerebellum Baffles Doctors

[Dr Powerfun]

http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/3867/chase.jpg

In a story that defies all medical odds and will likely cause doctors to rethink what little we know about the brain, little Chase Britton is doing things he shouldn't be able to do because he has no cerebellum or pons.

The cerebellum is the part of the brain that controls motor skills, balance and emotions. The pons controls even more basic functions like breathing and sleeping. What's more startling is that pre-natal images of little Chase clearly showed he had a cerebellum before he was born.

Not only do doctors want to know how he is able to function without these two vital parts of a normal brain, but they also want to find out what happened to them when they were clearly present before birth.

Full story at aolnews.com (http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/12/chase-britton-boy-without-a-cerebellum-baffles-doctors/)

[Judee]

http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/3867/chase.jpg

In a story that defies all medical odds and will likely cause doctors to rethink what little we know about the brain, little Chase Britton is doing things he shouldn't be able to do because he has no cerebellum or pons.

The cerebellum is the part of the brain that controls motor skills, balance and emotions. The pons controls even more basic functions like breathing and sleeping. What's more startling is that pre-natal images of little Chase clearly showed he had a cerebellum before he was born.

Not only do doctors want to know how he is able to function without these two vital parts of a normal brain, but they also want to find out what happened to them when they were clearly present before birth.

Full story at aolnews.com (http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/12/chase-britton-boy-without-a-cerebellum-baffles-doctors/)

Thank you for this story Dr. P. He's an amazing, incredible little boy for sure.

That said, I think we need to rethink the doctor's brains. Such a shame they are locked into old boxes.

[Project]

I was going to say, I thought G. W. Bush showed this was possible long ago :)

[Project]

That is an awesome story, and totally baffling.

[Judee]

I was going to say, I thought G. W. Bush showed this was possible long ago :)

No, I think the Shrub proved that the doctors first theory was correct!! :lmao:

[Divinorumus]

Brain is also an illusion. Everything is.

[Judee]

Brain is also an illusion. Everything is.

Whoa! Than why does anything matter, good or bad? :thinking:

[Project]

The holograhic theory of mind would explain this, and tests have shown it to be basically true. You can remove important bits of the brain and other parts of the brain take over those functions somehow.

[Divinorumus]

Whoa! Than why does anything matter, good or bad? :thinking:
Because this is not your dream, world, illusion, matrix, reality, universe, whatever you prefer to call it. It's Gaia's dream. And she didn't add humans to the mix just so they could exploit, terrorize, trash, pollute, and destroy it all. Humans are so doomed.

Mother nature is going to blow up japan and do you know why? I did say mother nature was getting ready to nuke and destroy them because of their terrorist and genocidal war against the whales, dolphins, and more. I also tried to warn those americanos about their terrorist war against the cow, pigs, chickens, and way way more, but they don't give a flying ****. They just don't care, so I say **** humanity .. if that's how they feel!

It is already acknowledged that humans have no intentions of surrendering and ceasing their terror and war against nature and so I have to concur with natures decision to eliminate humanity from the illusion. Humans suck and turn dreams into nightmares. They are so doomed.

So yeah, I guess nothing really matters, which is why humans continue to do what they are doing because their goal obviously is extinction. Humans deserve as much terror and pain and suffering and death as they have inflicted upon all the other lifeforms within this dream and I hope they get what they deserve.

Anyhow, didn't mean to derail cerebellum talk, point is though it's all a dream .. just an illusion .. and I now know that for a fact .. it's why my voodoo stick works so swell, ha.

[Divinorumus]

The holograhic theory of mind would explain this, and tests have shown it to be basically true. You can remove important bits of the brain and other parts of the brain take over those functions somehow.

What if we're holograms (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2010-06-01-world-science-festival_N.htm)

[Alpha]

What if we're holograms (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2010-06-01-world-science-festival_N.htm)

Well, I guess if all is a hologram, then perhaps none of it is real and it's all kinda like a cartoon.

To Judee's earlier point:


Whoa! Than why does anything matter, good or bad? :thinking: ...in response to yours...


Brain is also an illusion. Everything is.

If EVERYTHING is really an illusion, than help me understand why anything matters.

[Delphine]

I wonder what happened to the cerebellum, if he had it before birth. Poof! It disappeared? Baffling, for sure.

[Project]

Well, I guess if all is a hologram, then perhaps none of it is real and it's all kinda like a cartoon.

To Judee's earlier point:

...in response to yours...



If EVERYTHING is really an illusion, than help me understand why anything matters.

Why would you think anything matters (pun intended)? What does matter? We think things matter maybe but does what we think matters matter to someone else?

We have a consensual reality of sorts, I am not sure that matters much, in fact my reality is so different from most people I have to think it doesn't matter. I guess living matters, but that is only a guess since I don't know any better. I am going to believe living does matter because if I don't, and it does, I am pretty screwed.

[Project]

What if we're holograms (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2010-06-01-world-science-festival_N.htm)

I like.

[Delphine]

"It's a concept so mindbending..." Gives me a headache.

[Dr Powerfun]

Musings on matters of mind from
the great philosopher, HOMER

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6237/homery.gif

...Simpson (D'oh!)
HI-SPEED (http://drpowerfun.webng.com/video/simpsonmind-hi.wmv) | DIALUP (http://drpowerfun.webng.com/video/simpsonmind-lo.wmv)

[Judee]

Musings on matters of mind from
the great philosopher, HOMER

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6237/homery.gif

...Simpson (D'oh!)
HI-SPEED (http://drpowerfun.webng.com/video/simpsonmind-hi.wmv) | DIALUP (http://drpowerfun.webng.com/video/simpsonmind-lo.wmv)

Perfect Dr. P!! :veryhappy

[Judee]

Brain is also an illusion. Everything is.

I do agree that 'life' is only an illusion, and our real existence waits for us...

[Divinorumus]

I do agree that 'life' is only an illusion, and our real existence waits for us...
"Real" is also an illusion.

Everything IS because it is all just another definition of what NOTHING is not. YOU exist for the same reason and purpose as the number 3 exists .. or 4 .. or anything for that matter. Your existence and experiences are like a book on a library shelf. We are what NOTHING is NOT. Everything is, except nothing. To create, to define what nothing is not, all you have to do is imagine HOW! It's like how magic works within a lucid dream. You define it, and how. It's easy once you know how. You don't even really need a brain if you can imagine how that could be possible. Piece of pie. ;).

[Divinorumus]

Here's a kid with a cerebellum that should also baffles doctors:

Part one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toYVbY12kd0
Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toYVbY12kd0)

Part two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2A7BlKbZlM
Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2A7BlKbZlM)

You think any of the grups will believe this kids imagination and his final 10 seconds concerning the fate of humanity?

(don't ask me why the video is not embedding, so I included the Links)

[Project]

Here's a kid with a cerebellum that should also baffles doctors:

Part one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toYVbY12kd0
Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toYVbY12kd0)

Part two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2A7BlKbZlM
Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2A7BlKbZlM)

You think any of the grups will believe this kids imagination and his final 10 seconds concerning the fate of humanity?

(don't ask me why the video is not embedding, so I included the Links)

man what can you say... awesome!

[Divinorumus]

When the revolution begins, that kid gets to live. His parents too. (lol)

I particularly enjoyed the last 10 seconds of part two .. I can see in his eyes that he knows, his expression tells me so.

[Project]

When the revolution begins, that kid gets to live. His parents too. (lol)

I particularly enjoyed the last 10 seconds of part two .. I can see in his eyes that he knows, his expression tells me so.

that is totally what hit me too, he is hesitating trying to remember crazy equations, but man is he sure of himself, and this does not make no-sense by any means, through my narrow education and understanding. The kid is the real thing, he could not even memorize a script like that.

[Judee]

"Real" is also an illusion.

Everything IS because it is all just another definition of what NOTHING is not. YOU exist for the same reason and purpose as the number 3 exists .. or 4 .. or anything for that matter. Your existence and experiences are like a book on a library shelf. We are what NOTHING is NOT. Everything is, except nothing. To create, to define what nothing is not, all you have to do is imagine HOW! It's like how magic works within a lucid dream. You define it, and how. It's easy once you know how. You don't even really need a brain if you can imagine how that could be possible. Piece of pie. ;).

Gotcha! :notworthy You put it in an easily understandable format. Thanks.

[Judee]

Here's a kid with a cerebellum that should also baffles doctors:


You think any of the grups will believe this kids imagination and his final 10 seconds concerning the fate of humanity?



I can't watch the videos, but I don't have to in order to understand. The clock is indeed ticking faster and faster, and the 'grups' as you call them are more interested in their cell phone, iPods, etc. than they are in truth.

[Divinorumus]

Ah heck, Judee, I forgot. Unfortunatly, words can't adequatly describe this video though. He's so charming too.

You can look it up and read about it all:

Google: Jacob Barnett Asperger's syndrome (http://www.google.com/search?q=Jacob+Barnett+Asperger's+syndrome)

BTW, in the last 10 seconds, he beliefly summerizes everything he has just said in these few words: " ... and the poor Earth is going to die."

See, that's what homo superiors will be like once the homo sapiens have been phased out of existence, except they better quickly find a new home world to jump to and be prepared to leave at a moments notice. ;)

[DarkoMarco]

As far as wether we are a halogram or not,,,it's a consensual reality with rules,,,,it matters not if we are halographic or not,,,,,the electrons that repel eachother and cause us to intrepret things as matter is all that matters.
If life is a dream,,,than it is a dream we have all agreed to enter,,,with specific rules.
I personally like to think the kid with the cerebellum thing going on has somehow managed to compensate with his soul/aura acting in some kind of way to compensate.
But, it is probably as project said, some part of the physical brain acting to compensate.
Remarkable story.

Makes you wonder about the so called Reptile/brain,,,which is what the cerebellum is,,,,,and maybe this kid diserves close observation to see as to what effects are to be observed without having it.

[Divinorumus]

If life is a dream,,,than it is a dream we have all agreed to enter,,,with specific
What's this "we" stuff? I mean, how many ACTUALLY occupy a dream, any dream? I mean, who REALLY are all those other characters in OUR dreams? :eek5: And where did THEY come from anyhow? ;)

[Project]

As far as wether we are a halogram or not,,,it's a consensual reality with rules,,,,it matters not if we are halographic or not,,,,,the electrons that repel eachother and cause us to intrepret things as matter is all that matters.
If life is a dream,,,than it is a dream we have all agreed to enter,,,with specific rules.
I personally like to think the kid with the cerebellum thing going on has somehow managed to compensate with his soul/aura acting in some kind of way to compensate.
But, it is probably as project said, some part of the physical brain acting to compensate.
Remarkable story.

Makes you wonder about the so called Reptile/brain,,,which is what the cerebellum is,,,,,and maybe this kid diserves close observation to see as to what effects are to be observed without having it.

what are these rules you speak of? Physics? Laws?

[Divinorumus]

what are these rules you speak of?
There are three rules: It must be 1) imaginable, 2) logically possible, and 3) definable.

[DarkoMarco]

what are these rules you speak of? Physics? Laws?


Hey Div, Project. :wave:

Sure you could say Physics,,,but then I don't think accepted acadamia has that one as figuired out as they want to believe they do.
I like the term used by Carlos Castaneda,,,,he uses the expression "house rules" like the universe was one big casino.
And I'm cool with that.

I think you can get caught up in the evils of humanity right now, and I understand that. I love mother nature, I love trees,,,,and I think there are invisible life forms affected by the destruction of natural habitat, (elfs and fairies and stuff), yea I totally believe in that stuff. Me personally, I've seen it.

But, bottom line,,,you gotta look at it like this. The earth has had a series of extinction level events all through the occupation of life on this planet.
Mankind is just the latest extinction event. Mankind is just the latest asteroid to hit the planet.

The earth will live through it, even if mankind won't.

When I say there are rules. I mean that spirits in a non-physical world knew what they were getting into when they decided to be born here.
When I say there are rules,,,,I'm hinting that,,,some lessons mankind must learn through the act of living them,,,and they can't be learned from anothers experience.
Even if this is a halographic reality,,,we have decided that it would be a third dimensional decidedly solid halographic reality.



There are three rules: It must be 1) imaginable, 2) logically possible, and 3) definable.


I'm not quite sure I understand your application of these terms in the scope of agreed upon collective rules.
I'm not trying to take away from these terms,,but,,,I'm going to offer up a possibility as to how they may not apply.
If the rules are made in the spirit world,,,where we are our complete selves,,,then our present idea of understanding may not apply.
It is my understanding (CBT) that our physical brains are as much as a limitation as they are a computation vessel for this plane of existance.
I'm guessing we are far more intelligent, savvy and coherent of universal laws when we are on the other side.

[Project]

Hey Div, Project. :wave:

Sure you could say Physics,,,but then I don't think accepted acadamia has that one as figuired out as they want to believe they do.
I like the term used by Carlos Castaneda,,,,he uses the expression "house rules" like the universe was one big casino.
And I'm cool with that.

I think you can get caught up in the evils of humanity right now, and I understand that. I love mother nature, I love trees,,,,and I think there are invisible life forms affected by the destruction of natural habitat, (elfs and fairies and stuff), yea I totally believe in that stuff. Me personally, I've seen it.

But, bottom line,,,you gotta look at it like this. The earth has had a series of extinction level events all through the occupation of life on this planet.
Mankind is just the latest extinction event. Mankind is just the latest asteroid to hit the planet.

The earth will live through it, even if mankind won't.

When I say there are rules. I mean that spirits in a non-physical world knew what they were getting into when they decided to be born here.
When I say there are rules,,,,I'm hinting that,,,some lessons mankind must learn through the act of living them,,,and they can't be learned from anothers experience.
Even if this is a halographic reality,,,we have decided that it would be a third dimensional decidedly solid halographic reality.


I'm not quite sure I understand your application of these terms in the scope of agreed upon collective rules.
I'm not trying to take away from these terms,,but,,,I'm going to offer up a possibility as to how they may not apply.
If the rules are made in the spirit world,,,where we are our complete selves,,,then our present idea of understanding may not apply.
It is my understanding (CBT) that our physical brains are as much as a limitation as they are a computation vessel for this plane of existance.
I'm guessing we are far more intelligent, savvy and coherent of universal laws when we are on the other side.

We are god but the game is we made ourselves forget we are god. True? Perhaps?

Hi! :alien:

[Judee]

We are god but the game is we made ourselves forget we are god. True? Perhaps?

Hi! :alien:

Yes, and no IMO. We are indeed 'god', but it wasn't we our individual selves that made us forget that. The best example I can think of that recently is to go and see the movie Paul. But, it's not a kids movie. I've heard about people taking kids to it and being offended. Dah!!! The movie is 'R' rated stupid parents!!!

[DarkoMarco]

We are god but the game is we made ourselves forget we are god. True? Perhaps?

Hi! :alien:

I don't personally believe that, but I have no problem with folks who do.

I think we are sparks of creation,,,so we had a beginning,,,when we were cast out of the tao so to speak,,,and strangely enough,,,,,we are working to get back.
I think we are more than who we presently are now when we are on the other side,,but,,that is because I believe in reincarnation,,and as such,,,I think all of our previous memories are awakened when we pass into the other side. But how that equates to God I surely do not know? :dunno:

[Divinorumus]

Spirit world is illusion too. Must remember, EVERYTHING is illusion. There is nothing and no place for it all, thus it is all like a dream. Illusion. All their is are definitions, code looping in the matrix, the illusion of all that which nothing is not, just like in a dream. If you observe the 3 rules, it will manifest. If you can't, then you are a manifestation as opposed to a manifester. Same as difference between being lucid or non-lucid within a dream.

[DarkoMarco]

Spirit world is illusion too. Must remember, EVERYTHING is illusion. There is nothing and no place for it all, thus it is all like a dream. Illusion. All their is are definitions, code looping in the matrix, the illusion of all that which nothing is not, just like in a dream. If you observe the 3 rules, it will manifest. If you can't, then you are a manifestation as opposed to a manifester. Same as difference between being lucid or non-lucid within a dream.

Though I do believe we are in the third - fourth dimension: Astral MahaMaya (http://www.kahealani.com/articles/fourth_dimension.html) I don't beleive in absolutes.
I don't believe everything in physicality is illusion and I certainly don't think that about the spirit world.
Communication from the true spirit world is rare,,,,not done on a whim,,,,and this is done with an aim.
Freewill in the world of illusian is not to be circumvented.
Casual communicaton from the spirit world would do this.
This freewill extends to death,,and if one chooses to be sure of their beliefs,,they may choose to stay in illusion rather than cross over to spirit.
Most if not all earth bound spirits are here because they are exercising their freewill in the matter.

[Divinorumus]

I don't believe everything in physicality is illusion ....
I understand that. We call THAT being "non-lucid" within the dream .. In other words, when you are non-lucid, physicality WILL appear non-illusional. That's the whole point I was trying to make. I'm glad you concur.


Communication from the true spirit world is rare,,,,not done on a whim,,,,
Hum, maybe by spirit world you mean the dreamer of the dream? Maybe we are referring to the same thing differently? Most people use words they learned from others. I on the other hand call it as I see it. What I communicate with when I am LUCID is the "dreamer" of this illusion. Of course when I'm in a non-lucid state, yeah, THEN communications is rare and then only when an urgent call comes in. The dreamer knows enough to leave us alone when we chose to be non-lucid within a believable dream.

BTW, do you believe in collective intent? If so, how do you imagine that works within a dream? ;)

[DarkoMarco]

I understand that. We call THAT being "non-lucid" within the dream .. In other words, when you are non-lucid, physicality WILL appear non-illusional. That's the whole point I was trying to make. I'm glad you concur.;)

I understand your metaphor with dreaming and physicality, but, I don't nessasarilly think that comparison is in my understanding of things. It's true we all have our own unique vocabulary. And when delving into abstract spiritual concepts, the application of logic and black and white definitions rarelly is a cement mix that will harden into the form we intend. Even so,,,I'll bite.

I subscribe to a dimensional understanding of spirituality. It is outlined in the link I gave earlier.
For sake of ease,,,just go with me here.
Third, fourth and fifth dimensions.
Third is for humans and physicality we understand, yet it can be visited by all of the above dimensions.
Fourth is the realm I think you refer to when you say spirituality is an illusion.
The fourth is inhabited by parasitic ghosts, parasitic life forms we don't understand, and can be accessed by the dreamer,,,,,and the dreamer can be accessed by those forces mentioned when he/she goes there.
In order to get to the fifth, you have to go through the tunnel with the light at the end of the tunnel and no exceptions to this as far as I can tell.
Fifth dimensional beings and up are "on the other side" so to speak.




Hum, maybe by spirit world you mean the dreamer of the dream? Maybe we are referring to the same thing differently? Most people use words they learned from others. I on the other hand call it as I see it. What I communicate with when I am LUCID is the "dreamer" of this illusion. Of course when I'm in a non-lucid state, yeah, THEN communications is rare and then only when an urgent call comes in. The dreamer knows enough to leave us alone when we chose to be non-lucid within a believable dream.;)

I use definitions of others. But I call it like I see it to. Everything I have said above, I have seen first hand.
By lucidness in the third dimension waking state, if you mean in the state where you can see the "moving field of consiousness" that permeates all things, then yes I know what you mean.


BTW, do you believe in collective intent? If so, how do you imagine that works within a dream? ;)

There is a wickedness here,,,I believe there is something to what you say,,,and,,,that it has been manipulated by the powers that be for their agenda.
Movies, music, media.
I think these things are all manipulating this "collective intent" and if anything could be called black magic, this would be it.

As far as how would I imagine this to be applied in a dream is a good question as well.
Understanding the Annunki in dreams and entities in dreams (http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?19570-Understanding-the-Annunki-in-dreams-and-entities-in-dreams)

The above was by a guy named waking nomad.

This one is from me.

Mind Parasites - A story illustrating soul leaching energy parasites (http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showthread.php?19720-Mind-Parasites-A-story-illustrating-soul-leaching-energy-parasites)

[Divinorumus]

There is a wickedness here,,,
I don't know if I would necessarily call lucid interference in any matrix, any reality, any dream, a wickedness without at least hearing all the facts first. :rambo:

[Project]

I don't personally believe that, but I have no problem with folks who do.

I think we are sparks of creation,,,so we had a beginning,,,when we were cast out of the tao so to speak,,,and strangely enough,,,,,we are working to get back.
I think we are more than who we presently are now when we are on the other side,,but,,that is because I believe in reincarnation,,and as such,,,I think all of our previous memories are awakened when we pass into the other side. But how that equates to God I surely do not know? :dunno:

I think we believe the same sort of thing here, god is just a word for creator, "we" the essences, the sparks, created our current manifestation. I think I take more of a buddhist tact than you, but essentially we are actually (largely unbeknownst to us) divine beings on a quest to "get back" or to "become enlightened" or similar phrases which could mean the same concept. Alan Watts wrote and spoke extensively on these ideas, I like his encapsulation.

we are off topic in a great way :) I don't mean that as a nudge back to topic, I think we are on topic, but as explorers might be....

[Judee]

we are off topic in a great way :) I don't mean that as a nudge back to topic, I think we are on topic, but as explorers might be....

:fing02: :veryhappy Have you noticed we have some of our best and most in-depth 'conversations' while off topic? :yup:

[Project]

:fing02: :veryhappy Have you noticed we have some of our best and most in-depth 'conversations' while off topic? :yup:

sincerely, I have.

[DarkoMarco]

:fing02: :veryhappy Have you noticed we have some of our best and most in-depth 'conversations' while off topic? :yup:

I agree lovely Judee :hug:.


I think we believe the same sort of thing here, god is just a word for creator, "we" the essences, the sparks, created our current manifestation. I think I take more of a buddhist tact than you, but essentially we are actually (largely unbeknownst to us) divine beings on a quest to "get back" or to "become enlightened" or similar phrases which could mean the same concept. Alan Watts wrote and spoke extensively on these ideas, I like his encapsulation.

we are off topic in a great way :) I don't mean that as a nudge back to topic, I think we are on topic, but as explorers might be....

Your right,,,,language is such a hang up. All we need is one word to have a negative anchor in our consiousness and suddenly folks are disagreeing. :lmao: :13:
I've never read or digested any Alan Watts,,,Buddhism is cool, I personally got a lot out of taoism,,,and that seemlessly wove it self into a lot of my favs,,,like Gnosticism,,,Castaneda,,,,,The Urantia,,,,,Billy Meier,,,Zacharia Sitchin,,,,I love serving myself from a buffet of philosophical/spiritual ideals :).
I like the ones that promote personal responcibility,,,and encourage exploration and extrition of self from society.

[Project]

I agree lovely Judee :hug:.



Your right,,,,language is such a hang up. All we need is one word to have a negative anchor in our consiousness and suddenly folks are disagreeing. :lmao: :13:
I've never read or digested any Alan Watts,,,Buddhism is cool, I personally got a lot out of taoism,,,and that seemlessly wove it self into a lot of my favs,,,like Gnosticism,,,Castaneda,,,,,The Urantia,,,,,Billy Meier,,,Zacharia Sitchin,,,,I love serving myself from a buffet of philosophical/spiritual ideals :).
I like the ones that promote personal responcibility,,,and encourage exploration and extrition of self from society.


I will start athread with some Alan Watts soon, he is a heavy cat, on the level of Terrence McKenna and Tim Leary imo.

I am totally digging on hinduism these days, Ganesh is my deity of choice.


Although he is known by many other attributes, Ganesha's elephant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant) head makes him easy to identify.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesh#cite_note-8) Ganesha is widely revered as the Remover of Obstacles[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesh#cite_note-9) and more generally as Lord of Beginnings and Lord of Obstacles; Vighneshvara [/URL]patron of arts and sciences, and the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_%28Hinduism%29"]deva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesh#cite_note-Vighnesha-10) of intellect and wisdom.[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesh#cite_note-11) He is honoured at the beginning of rituals and ceremonies and invoked as Patron of Letters during writing sessions.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesh#cite_note-12) Several texts relate mythological anecdotes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythological_anecdotes_of_Ganesha) associated with his birth and exploits and explain his distinct iconography. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesh

Although I did love reading the Tao over and over, it is a peaceful read, and very compelling. The Tao of Physics by Fritjoff Capra is one I would recommend highly to one and all.

[DarkoMarco]

I will start athread with some Alan Watts soon, he is a heavy cat, on the level of Terrence McKenna and Tim Leary imo.

I am totally digging on hinduism these days, Ganesh is my deity of choice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesh.

I have a wooden disc I bought at a boutique fifteen years ago,,,it has a copper relief of Ganesh withdrawn, otherworldly, with red stone inlaid eyes.
The image is powerfull for some reason, and, a bit unnerving.
I"m a huge Lovecraft fan,,,,,and it has always reminded me of something Lovecraft would have wrote about.
Terrance Mckenna is quite the shamanic visionary,,,I respect folks who wish to,,,,,ahem,,,,,see how things work for themselves,,,with a little help of course.:trink26:
I personally can't handle Leary's prescribed methods,,,,too long,,,and too intense,,,,,I'm capable of exploring with a little less potency myself. :)

I really like Pashupati Hinduism.
These folks believe that most people are like cows with rings through their noses. They are led here and there by social conventions and by their own hopes and fears.
These folks break with social norms and shake thier own inner world to break free from past mental conditioning.
Very Castaneda in my opinion.

Kind of like in the movie "little big man" when little horse was a contrary. I looked for the video clip on youtube,,couldn't find it.





Although I did love reading the Tao over and over, it is a peaceful read, and very compelling. The Tao of Physics by Fritjoff Capra is one I would recommend highly to one and all.

I got a lot out of "The Dancing Wu Li Masters" by Gary Zukav

[richard]

That some thing amazing. Is it really true.