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SquidInk
05-03-2011, 10:08 AM
http://www.dailygrail.com/Essays/2010/5/Planck-found-Eulers-Identity-Crop-Circle
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/12/wwsteve0.jpg
When I saw the photos of the Wilton Windmill crop circle (the photo here is by Steve Alexander), reported on 22nd May, I was immediately struck by the possibility of a message encoded in 8-bit binary.
After transcribing the binary digits, I translated each byte (8 bits) into its corresponding ASCII character with this handy online converter, starting from the direction of the windmill, and working clockwise around the circle and out from the centre. (If you're having trouble following this, see the animation linked at the bottom of the article).
Interesting... I wonder if ETs make typos...
Thoughts?
maryals
05-05-2011, 10:11 PM
The first time I saw this particular Crop Formation I was put in mind of those metal discs in older music boxes.
I wonder if someone could bring it down, in precise scale of course, to a more manageable size. Hmmmm or perhaps just trace over a photograph, use that as a template to cut into a metal disc, and see, er, hear, what if anything it plays in a music box.
Anyway, Krepta loves numbers and formulae I wonder what he makes of the theory that this Formation is a mathematical formula?
And maybe the "h" is not a typo, but a refinement of the original formula?
Mary and Baby
maryals
05-05-2011, 10:31 PM
I found it, in Wiki:
H stands for quaternions or Hamiltonian quaternions
In mathematics, the quaternions are a number system that extends the complex numbers. They were first described by Irish mathematician Sir William Rowan Hamilton in 1843 and applied to mechanics in three-dimensional space.... Hamilton defined a quaternion as the quotient of two directed lines in a three-dimensional space[1] or equivalently as the quotient of two vectors.[2] Quaternions can also be represented as the sum of a scalar and a vector.
Quaternions find uses in both theoretical and applied mathematics, in particular for calculations involving three-dimensional rotations such as in three-dimensional computer graphics and computer vision. They can be used alongside other methods, such as Euler angles and matrices, or as an alternative to them depending on the application.
The unit quaternions can therefore be thought of as a choice of a group structure on the 3-sphere S3, the group Spin(3), the group SU(2), or the universal cover of SO(3).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_mathematical_symbols
So anyway it may not be a typo!
Mary and Baby
SquidInk
05-05-2011, 10:57 PM
Wow Maryals! Thanks for your response. Yeah, I think you're right, and this may not be a 'typo' at all.
Did you see the animation? [ http://logosmythos.net/wilton_windmill_crop_circle_may_2010.html ]
Here are some things that came to mind for me:
* The second bracket at the beginning of the message is not necessary, syntactically.
* If we assume the 'h' is a typo, and should have been a '(' , then can't we also assume that ETs use the same mathematical notation as we do, as well as ascii? Is that probable?
* Is it probable that humans could have created this kind of design, in one night, in high grass, without being detected?
* Why are the 'downward' facing bits given the value of '1' rather than the 'upward facing?
I'm not saying those points can't be answered/countered, but they are points of interest in any case.
Here's some further reading ( I have not read this completely yet, so it may provide a few answers). http://forgetomori.com/2010/fortean/circlemakers-say-hi-heres-a-plank-to-stomp-with/
SquidInk
05-05-2011, 11:02 PM
...and then there is this:
http://www.dcca.nl/art/milkhill-uk.htm
Milk Hill 1991 - a message
In august 1991, an American by the name of Erik Beckjord made a 'crop circle' in an attempt to communicate with the circlemakers in an attempt to 'persuade' them to make a formation in response to it. He tramped out the words 'TALK TO US' in wheat and it seems that he received an answer, because within a week a completely unreadable script appeared. Beckjord felt that it's appearance was an answer to his 'Talk to Us' effort. There were many translations of this mysterious script and I think that all of them are right. There is more than only one message encoded within it.
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/610/milkhill.jpg
Project
05-06-2011, 08:51 AM
I LOVE this theory, but have a major problem with it, the translation into ASCII codes. The fact that binary code might be "universal" in some way I could accept, but ASCII codes are purely human constructs, as are mathematical equations (ie what letter do you choose to represent what part of an equation?). So, this means either someone with great power understands these strange accommodations humans have made in maths, or else we did it :()
I really like the music wheel idea, and maybe doing something like miniaturizing it and spinning it at a certain speed could release more information....
SquidInk
05-06-2011, 09:05 AM
I agree about the ASCII.
One argument for ET origination could be that the creator of the design had been observing mankind, and choose to create a design in man's own notation, so that it could be decoded. This might stand in contrast to other crop circles, which may employ a more 'universal' notation - one we do not yet understand.
As for the 'typo' - that's puzzling, no matter what the origin of the design.
Project
05-06-2011, 09:26 AM
I agree about the ASCII.
One argument for ET origination could be that the creator of the design had been observing mankind, and choose to create a design in man's own notation, so that it could be decoded. This might stand in contrast to other crop circles, which may employ a more 'universal' notation - one we do not yet understand.
As for the 'typo' - that's puzzling, no matter what the origin of the design.
Absolutely, they are "dumbing it down for us". I'd love to hear the planning sessions for that... "will they get this?".
DarkoMarco
05-07-2011, 05:37 AM
Regardless of the crop circles origin,,it has a pretty easy to dicypher message.
This GIF represents Euler's Equation,,,the binary message in the crop circle.
8164
To me,,,this is a representation of exponential uncontrolled growth recoiling and experiencing equilibrium.
Any takers on X being the human population???
DarkoMarco
05-07-2011, 05:41 AM
The first time I saw this particular Crop Formation I was put in mind of those metal discs in older music boxes.
I wonder if someone could bring it down, in precise scale of course, to a more manageable size. Hmmmm or perhaps just trace over a photograph, use that as a template to cut into a metal disc, and see, er, hear, what if anything it plays in a music box.
Anyway, Krepta loves numbers and formulae I wonder what he makes of the theory that this Formation is a mathematical formula?
And maybe the "h" is not a typo, but a refinement of the original formula?
Mary and Baby
Yea,,,like the piano paper put inside those ol self playing pianos.
Alpha
12-03-2011, 11:33 AM
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