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08-21-2011, 11:13 AM
This is the premise of our discussion, the 13 tribes of Ezekiel become 12 tribes in the book of Revelations. We will chronicle the transition that takes place by the removal of the "tribe of DAN", and the imposition of the "tribe of JOSEPH".
Only 1 tribe is lost, the other tribe is exchanged, the "tribe of joseph" is exchanged with the "tribe of ephraim". The "tribe of LEVI" never left the list of tribes in Exekiel this is a common mistake, and if you read ezekiel you will find the "tribe of LEVI" listed. We will place this discusson in context before we continue.
The Form of 13 Tribes, Innuendo
The magnitude of describing the 13 tribes's transition into 12 tribes involves the earth and the Celestial Ecliptic (earth's relation to constellations). This is the magnitude necessary to address what is being described in the bible. In a previous discussion, the wrong degree of magnitude resulted in an incorrect conclusion, and I have left that conclusion as an example in the following thread:
I will also attempt to resolve some of the other conflicts found in that thread under this proper discussion.
The 13 Tribes of Ezekiel, Illustration and Description
1. Represents the Ecliptic - or Earth's relation to the constellations (celestial sphere) as it travels the sun
2. Represents the Earth - This is seen as the "tribe of DAN", this is what is removed from revelations
I will use the bible's description of the 13 tribes from Ezekiel, to reference the illustration above, the illustration above also represents the north and south relationship of the "12 tribes" that represent the "ecliptic" in exekiel, see below:
NORTH SEE ILLUSTRATION ABOVE - A - N - M - E - R - J
EZEKIEL 48:1 Now these [are] the names of the tribes. From the north end to the coast of the way of Hethlon, as one goeth to Hamath, Hazarenan, the border of Damascus northward, to the coast of Hamath; for these are his sides east [and] west; a [portion for] Dan.
EZEKIEL 48:2 And by the border of Dan, from the east side unto the west side, a [portion for] Asher.
EZEKIEL 48:3 And by the border of Asher, from the east side even unto the west side, a [portion for] Naphtali.
EZEKIEL 48:4 And by the border of Naphtali, from the east side unto the west side, a [portion for] Manasseh.
EZEKIEL 48:5 And by the border of Manasseh, from the east side unto the west side, a [portion for] Ephraim.
EZEKIEL 48:6 And by the border of Ephraim, from the east side even unto the west side, a [portion for] Reuben.
EZEKIEL 48:7 And by the border of Reuben, from the east side unto the west side, a [portion for] Judah.The tribe of Dan is being described as an separate entity, and so it represents a separate entity. For the North Country Above we have:
A = Asher
N = Naphtali
M = Manasseh
E = Ephraim
R = Reuben
J = Judah
They are ofcourse placed in the illustration according to the way they are described in Ezekiel.
JUDAH Connected to the SOUTH by the Sanctuary of the LEVITES
EZEKIEL 48:8 And by the border of Judah, from the east side unto the west side, shall be the offering which ye shall offer of five and twenty thousand [reeds in] breadth, and [in] length as one of the [other] parts, from the east side unto the west side: and the sanctuary shall be in the midst of it.
EZEKIEL 48:21 And the residue [shall be] for the prince, on the one side and on the other of the holy oblation, and of the possession of the city, over against the five and twenty thousand of the oblation toward the east border, and westward over against the five and twenty thousand toward the west border, over against the portions for the prince: and it shall be the holy oblation; and the sanctuary of the house [shall be] in the midst thereof.
EZEKIEL 48:22 Moreover from the possession of the Levites, and from the possession of the city, [being] in the midst [of that] which is the prince's, between the border of Judah and the border of Benjamin, shall be for the prince.The "tribe of Judah" is being connected to the sanctuary that is the possession of the "tribe of Levites" (levi). Judah is also being described as being between the Border of the "tribes of Levites" and the "tribe of Benjamin" see illustration above, where:
J = Judah
L = Levites
B = Benjamin
SOUTH SEE ILLUSTRATION ABOVE - G - Z - I - S - B - L
EZEKIEL 48:23 As for the rest of the tribes, from the east side unto the west side, Benjamin [shall have] a [portion].
EZEKIEL 48:24 And by the border of Benjamin, from the east side unto the west side, Simeon [shall have] a [portion].
EZEKIEL 48:25 And by the border of Simeon, from the east side unto the west side, Issachar a [portion].
EZEKIEL 48:26 And by the border of Issachar, from the east side unto the west side, Zebulun a [portion].
EZEKIEL 48:27 And by the border of Zebulun, from the east side unto the west side, Gad a [portion].
EZEKIEL 48:28 And by the border of Gad, at the south side southward, the border shall be even from Tamar [unto] the waters of strife Kadesh, [and] to the river toward the great sea.
EZEKIEL 48:29 This [is] the land which ye shall divide by lot unto the tribes of Israel for inheritance, and these [are] their portions, saith the Lord GOD.
For the SOUTH COUNTRY separated by the border we have:
B = Benjamin
S = Simeon
I = Issachar
Z = Zebulun
G = Gad
Before we continue with our discussion, to the transition of the list of tribes in revelations, it is probably more accurate to transcribe these values against the astrological zodiac in the order presented above, then to attempt to apply the values in the book of revelations to the astrological zodiac. For the simple explanation that the above values from Ezekiel reference the Earth, as a point of perspective which is the "tribe of DAN", and the book of revelations does not. So we are able to accurately able to apply the values in Ezekiel, but not in Revelations, although after the values are applied from Ezekiel we can transcribe them to Revelations.
The previous error comes from performing the opposite see the link to the other thread in this post. Lets Continue.
Zodiac Relation - Notes & Illustration
after Christ appears to saul-the apostle paul on the road to damascus
paul,before he travels from damascus to jerusalem to meet peter and
james travels to arabia.as you read previously the constellation of
gemini falls over saudi arabia.paul who is of the tribe of benjamin-
gemini travelling to the sign-area of the tribe of benjamin-gemini.
-GRANTSMIL https://groups.google.com/group/10hornedbeast-astrology/browse_thread/thread/1593b6111f7e6ed4?hl=en"The June solstice passed from Leo into Cancer in year -1458, passed into Gemini in year -10, passed into Taurus in December 1989, will pass into Aries in year 4609." (equinoxes shift). At the time the book of ezekiel was written, Cancer and not Gemini was represented by the June Solstice Equonix. We can go a set further.
EZEKIEL 45:25 In the seventh [month], in the fifteenth day of the month, shall he do the like in the feast of the seven days, according to the sin offering, according to the burnt offering, and according to the meat offering, and according to the oil.
The Month of July is being described, immediately before the descriptions of the 13 Tribes in Ezekiel is given to us. Thus After the "tribe of DAN" which is the earth, the "tribe of ASER", begins the rotation at the astrological sign of CANCER. The month of July references "Cancer", however since the material is referencing the jewish calendar, we and push this information back a 29 day period, or to the month of june, this should be enough for the NORTH COUNTRY astrological assignment. The book of Ezekiel was written roughly at the time, around the destruction of Solomon's Temple, when the land was being assessed, etc.
revelation says that the seat of satan-king of tyrus is pergamos-
turkey.hiram-huram king of tyre and his son also called hiram-huram
were of the tribes of dan and naphtali respectively.dan-capricorn-
italy and naphtali-scorpio-turkey-pergamos.the western and eastern
seats of government of the roman empire.one example of many of what
GOD is showing by this tribe constellation-zodiac city-country
-GRANTSMIL https://groups.google.com/group/10hornedbeast-astrology/browse_thread/thread/1593b6111f7e6ed4?hl=enI will use your conclusion to assign the astrological values to the SOUTH COUNTRY, dan is not capricorn however, I will use capricorn as the beginning of the south country, and I will assign this value to the LEVITES, the often misplaced tribe, dan is not one of the 12 tribes, its a 13th tribe. Lets Continue, see below:
Zodiac Relation - Astrological Assignment
NORTH COUNTRY RED LINE
Note* The "tribe of Aser", begins from the far right (your right) in the illustration, it is the point of separation of a sphere, so it is simply listed on the opposite end for clarity, The tribes are listed from the tribe of Aser in order.
1. Tribe of Aser - Cancer
2. Tribe of Juda - Leo
3. Tribe of Reuben - Virgo
4. Tribe of Ephraim - Libra
5. Tribe of Manasses - Scorpio
6. Tribe of Nepthalim - Sagitarius
SOUTH COUNTRY GREEN LINE
1. Tribe of Levi - Capricorn
2. Tribe of Benjamin - Aquarius
3. Tribe of Simon - Pisces
4. Tribe of Issachar - Aries
5. Tribe of Zabulon - Tarus
6. Tribe of Gad - Gemini
This is what I can do - Understanding the Translation from 13 Tribes to 12 Tribes
13 TRIBES - EZEKIEL 12 Tribes Plotted, earth orbit referenced as "tribe of DAN"
12 TRIBES - REVELATIONS - The Position the "tribe of Joseph" exchanges with the "tribe of Ephraim" is not marked
Do you understand? The "tribe of DAN" is being removed in REVELATIONS, so the earth's orbit around the sun is being crossed off, this is literal as opposed to before, with one exception.
Tribe of Ephraim - Libra becomes Tribe of Joseph - Libra
I have let the bar it represents unmarked, so you can understand the time of the end, you have less than or about 2 months until my sign. The blue bars represents the crossing of each tribe from the NORTH COUNTRY to the SOUTH COUNTRY in order.
NORTH COUNTRY one is crossed with SOUTH COUNTRY one, until the pattern resembles what you see above.
This is acendotal, MY TESTIMONY began APRIL 2009 and it ends OCTOBER 2011. I will change the tone of this discussion.
08-21-2011, 09:40 PM
The Astrological Transition of the 12 Tribes of the Gospel - Continued - The Pyramids
I decided to aproach this subject from a different perspective, and use a different intrepretation. We will be viewing some of the similarities between the hebrew intrepretation of the 12 Tribes and astrology, seen in the previous post, and the presented Egyptian reflection of astrology in its culture.
The Vanguard - Sehkmet - Isis - Hathor (preface)
I have called these the "Vanguard" to represent the division to the egyptian zodiac that will be reflected against the Sphinx in this discussion. You can generally view, Isis (generally seen as a women with wings) as representing the rising of the sun (or life), Leo (the women pictured as a lion) as representing the East, and Hathor (the women pictured as a cow), as representing the West.
Isis - She was the friend of slaves, sinners, artisans, and the downtrodden, and she listened to the prayers of the wealthy, maidens, aristocrats, and rulers. Isis is the goddess of motherhood, magic and fertility
Hathor - "Mistress of the West" welcoming the dead into the next life. In other roles she was a goddess of music, dance, foreign lands and fertility who helped women in childbirth, as well as the patron goddess of miners.
Sehkmet - originally the warrior goddess as well as goddess of healing for Upper Egypt. She is depicted as a lioness, the fiercest hunter known to the Egyptians. It was said that her breath created the desert. She was seen as the protector of the pharaohs and led them in warfare. In a later myth developed around an annual drunken Sekhmet festival, Ra, the sun god, created her from a fiery eye gained from his mother, Hathor (daughter of Ra), to destroy mortals who conspired against him (Lower Egypt). In the myth, Sekhmet's blood-lust was not quelled at the end of battle and led to her destroying almost all of humanity, so Ra had tricked her by turning the Nile as red as blood
Egyptian Zodiac Year - for this discussion
The Sphinx has the body of a "lion" and the head of a "women", this can be seen as references to constellations "LEO and VIRGO". Above the points marked "L" for leo and "V" for virgo mark the top of the triangle and the location of the "Sphinx". Because these are absolute references, I do not need to correct for ecliptical shift. Traditionally, the constellations are viewed against the equinox and solstices, as templates for zodiac year in egypt. If you look at the above illustration, you see the black lines in the photo represent, equinox and solstice lines of intersection. More on this traditional perspective is described here http://egyptianepiphany.homestead.com/Gizacorrelation.html
Our perspective, divides the zodiac year into two groups divisible by LEO and VIRGO. Because the Zodiac is a circle it functions as a linear placement for its circularity. The 12 constellations are divided into 2 groups of 6 constellations, any references to equinoxes or solstices below are purely coincidental. And may or may not provide additional insight into the rotation of the constellations at the rotation of the ecliptic for the earth over time. Note, the Sphinx has never represented any other constellations other than LEO and VIRGO.
Isis - represents the division of LEO and VIRGO, that occurs with the triangle representing the general spectrum of the sun rising in degrees from left to right over the course of the year. Any special relationships to equinoxes and solstices may be purely coincidential. In the current equinoxial position VIRGO represents a equinox and LEO doesn't, this is not the case a few thousand years ago. However because the pyramids are aligned to orion and the pyramids generally face the rising of the sun, certain relationships are unavoidable.
Hathor - Moves away from the Sphinx, though the course of the year with the following constellations:
V - Virgo
L - Libra
S - Scorpio
S - Sagitarius
C - Capricorn
A - Aquarius
Sehkmet - Moves towards the Sphinx, through the course of the year with the following constellations:
P - Pisces
A - Aries
T - Tarus
G - Gemini
C - Cancer
L - Leo
Applying the Zodiac to the Pyramids Impractical/Impossible?
and knowing that the dashour red and bent pyramids represent the position of the first day of spring in 2500 b.c. you can place on the ground in egypt the twelve divisions of the zodiac wheel.the division between the signs of gemini and taurus known to the ancient egyptians as the balance of the sky runs through the town of ayan near memphis egypt.the division between the signs of taurus and aries is approximately 2.6 degrees(maybe 2.65...internal khufu) on the circle west of dashour(a line from khufus pyramid to the fourth dynasty pyramid at meidum?.....midheaven?medium coeli?).the division between gemini and cancer falls approximately twelve degrees south of thirty degrees north latitude.the date of 153 b.c. in scripture shows that the age of aquarius began at spring in 2007 a.d. does the division between leo and virgo align with the north west edge of heliopolis egypt-the biblical on,showing an implied horizon that runs between leo and virgo in the north east and pisces and aquarius in the south west with the city of heliopolis rising above this horizon inside the leo section.does the reported angle made by the south east corners of the three pyramids of giza,also reported to line up with the obelisk pillar(benben) that once stood in heliopolis,line up with this leo virgo division.the three hundred and sixty degree zodiac wheel falls over several countries most of which are the ten horns listed in
scripture also called the isles.which attack israel in the end times.
- grantsmill https://groups.google.com/group/10hornedbeast-astrology/browse_thread/thread/1593b6111f7e6ed4?hl=en
The egyptians observed the constellations, but to suggest the egyptians formed a yearly constellation map of the celestial equator is a little unfeasible. The egyptians observed the bull, tarus, because it resembled a cow, and they observed the constellation Orion because it resembled a man. I think this is one of those conversations where the magnitude and scope needs the proper context, or the conversation is a miss. The magnitude of egyptian astrology did not likely design the pyramids against a full "zodiac".
Although it is true "tarus" is an absolute positon that can be measured against. If not all the zodiac signs are referenced by ancient egypt, it is incorrect to extropolate the information and reference them.
It was an interesting read, but the lack of clear distinctions between the tribes in the bible, doesn't validate other contemporary sources.
I like to view this post as an example of over magnifying the scope of a topic.
08-22-2011, 03:00 PM
The Astrological Transition of the 12 Tribes of the Gospel - The Ark of the Covenant
The above image comes from an article we will discuss later in this thread, titled Astronaut Suicide Photos Inspired by Shuttle Program’s End. The ark of the Covenant undergoes a transition from the book of Exodus to the book of Revelations, that is one of the stones that can identify with the color of silver, is exchanged for another stone that can identify with the color of gold.
We will also be connecting the stones in the "ark of the Covenant" to the list of 12 Tribes, and the Astrological Signs that were presented in the first post of this thread.
The Ark of the Covenant, Exodus-Silver to Revelation-Gold
The following are the lists of 12 stones as they appear in the book of exodus first, and secondly in the book of revelations. We will ascertain the stone that has undergone a transition, secondarily. We will be using the list of stones in revelations to connect with our first post, not the list of stones in exodus, for the simple reason. The list of stones in revelations gives us an indication of direction (north, south,etc), and the list of stones in the book of exodus does not give us a indication of direction. I will restate this conclusion again before presenting that portion of the topic.
Exodus (in order as described exodus 28:17-20)
1. sardius topaz carbuncle*
2. emerald sapphire diamond*
3. ligure* agate* amethyst
4. beryl onyx jasper
Revelations (in order as described revelation 21:19-20)
7. chrysolite*Diamond (silver to gold)
I have simplified this conversation, there are a few values that are "debatable", however these values I have applied a simple relationship to, to remove the percieved inconsistency, represented by green and red above. All the given names are in order, in the second list from revelations, the translated value is separated by an "*" asterisk.
The third row from the list in exodus, gives us the values for jacinth and chrysoprasus, I have highlighted this proximity relationship in green. The values in red have equal spacing, so I have highlighted them in red, and the only displaced value was "diamond" in exodus, "diamond" is not exchanged, it is replaced by "chrysolite" in revelations. (diamond-silver) (chrysolite-gold)
This is like the "ark of the covenant" returning to heaven, but this exchange of colored stones silver to god, represents the relationship of the RAPTURE, and the separation of the "tribe of DAN", which is the separation of man from the earth, that is the rapture. We will continue, and discuss the stones relation to the tribes and the zodiac, in connection with our first post.
The Astrology of the SEAL
The book of Revelations gives us the order of the stones, but the book of exodus does not. Because we have the order from revelations we can inversely apply it to exodus, this may make the conversation more complicated. So instead I will be applying the values which are given in order from revelations, to the 12 Tribes Zodiac from the first post.
1. The Order for 12 Tribes (13 Tribes) is given in Ezekiel by directions NORTH AND SOUTH
2. The Order for stones is given in Revelations by directions (east), NORTH, SOUTH, (west)
In the following Illustration, I will apply the values of the stones to the 12 tribes in order: Beginning in the "NORTH", for 6 stones/tribes, and ending in the south for 6 stones/tribes.
The "tribe of Aser" is infront of the "tribe of Juda" for correctness, I have done this when applying the values to a sphere, versus applying the values linearly, the values are given linearly from the bible, and demonstrate the relationship. Transposing the value of the "tribe of Aser" again is simply done for correctness, not to confuse anyone. I will give the scriptures a review after this order is given according to revelations.
REVELATION 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. - The "NORTH" is given first, and the "SOUTH" is given secondarily. Just like ezekiel, now the order of the stones according to revelation.
1. Jasper - tribe of Aser
2. Sapphire - tribe of Juda
3. Chalcedony - tribe of Reuben
4. Emerald - tribe of Ephraim
5. Sardonyx - tribe of Manasses
6. Sardius - tribe of Nepthalim
7. Chrysolite - tribe of Levi
8. Beryl - tribe of Benjamin
9. Topaz - tribe of Simeon
10. Chrysoprasus - tribe of Issachar
11. Jacinth - tribe of Zabulon
12. Amethyst - tribe of Gad
REVELATION 21:18 And the building of the wall of it was [of] jasper: and the city [was] pure gold, like unto clear glass.
REVELATION 21:19 And the foundations of the wall of the city [were] garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation [was] jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
REVELATION 21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
The above is our vertification for this discussion. The city is being described by its northern point which is "jasper", and it is being described by its southern point which is "chrysolite" in rev 21:18. In Rev. 21:18 the transition of "diamond to chrysolite" that occured from exodus to genesis is additionally being described as "city [was] pure gold, like unto clear glass".
Between Rev 21:19 and Rev. 21:20 "Jasper" is given as the stone in the NORTH, and "Chrysolite" is given as the stone in the SOUTH. This is the relationship from Rev. 21:18 that is describing "chrysolite" as GOLD, and in the SOUTH.
It is impossible to refute or deny this conclusion because, "Aser is presented as the first tribe in the NORTH in ezekiel, the tribe of DAN is not counted. And 2. If the rotation begins in the NORTH, then it begins with the "tribe of Aser", Although Judah is in the position in the NORTH EAST, biblically the decision to place "Aser" is the correct decision, and by cross referening the last conclusion presented in the first post, to the last conclusion presented in this post then - end of ambiguity - on another note - I will be doing something different for ambiguity as stated in the opening paragraph of this discussion.
08-22-2011, 04:55 PM
The Astrological Transition of the 12 Tribes of the Gospel - The Vision of the Son of Man
Astronaut Suicide Photos Inspired by Shuttle Program’s End
The space shuttle Atlantis completed its final flight last month, bringing pride and bittersweet nostalgia to many Americans. But what about our beloved, symbolic astronaut? What will he do now that he’s out of the hero business?
Piggy-backing on the mixed emotions of the country about the end of NASA’s space shuttle program, photographer Neil DaCosta and art director Sara Phillips produced a darkly comic project by staging fictitious last moments of a distraught anonymous, unemployed astronaut.
“The concept came about after chatting about childhood aspirations,” says Phillips. “As a kid I remembered wanting to be an astronaut, it seems like that’s less likely to be on someone’s lips today.”
Be it funny or of questionable taste, Astronaut Suicides not only reflects on the end of a childhood icon, but also taps into the anxiety many Americans are feeling over jobs, pensions and livelihoods since the economic downturn took hold three years ago.
“We wanted to acknowledge the end of an era in a visual way that would bring the conversation to the creative community,” says Phillips. “The incongruity of the astronaut in these situations is, we hope, compelling and humorous, and we hope that we’re encouraging a younger audience to pay attention to what’s going on.”
In February, President Barack Obama’s budget announcement signaled the end of the shuttle program in order to “focus instead on radically new space technologies,” bringing added significance to Atlantis’ last launch and final landing.
“I understand that some believe that we should return to the surface of the moon but I have to say this bluntly, we have been there before,” said Obama on April 15, 2010.
Obama’s pragmatism is in sharp contrast to the Cold War era rallying of John F. Kennedy who, on Sept. 12, 1962, orated:
We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.
“We were inspired by JFK’s historic speech at Rice University which speaks to the achievements and aspirations of the times, and to recognize that the power of the sentiment is still relevant today,” says Phillips.
DaCosta and Phillips shot the project in Portland, Oregon, over two days, using a suit sourced from a Hollywood prop house that supplies replica space suits to the film industry.
The astronaut appears to have taken the pose of the s***k and n***o, which is to say the spanish and black people. The future of mankind is not compromised, the "peace, safety, love, charity" intended for mankind is not compromised, because of the sexual and physical immorality, because of the sedition and perdition, this is what it means to have a "law of NEWLIFE" given from the son of man, by the living god.
The "law of NEWLIFE", cannot be satisfied until first the s***k and n***o, are first euthanized, which is to say until the spanish and black people are first euthanized, this is a matter of public safety. This is a matter of humility and compliance in the short while you have left in the old earth, this is the end time.
A Short Continuation
Those are not the questions you would have intended the son to answer in this thread, no, the question which interests you instead is this question. This is the question I will answer.
The jasper, sapphire, chalcedony, emerald, sardonyx, sardius, chrysolite, beryl and topaz. These stones are not separated by the sign of the son of man, I am the son of man. MY TESTIMONY is the ark of the covenant, my enemies deny. That my position, this will be my position until I am executed according to the law of NEWLIFE.
08-23-2011, 01:47 AM
The Astrological Transition of the 12 Tribes of the Gospel - The UFO Phenemenon
Preface - The transition of the "tribe of DAN" (DAN removed), THE SEAL (HOLY SPIRIT) BECOMES THE UFO
To produce the color grey, "the R, G, and B primary light sources are combined in proportions equal to that of the white point". In otherwords, the color specturm is balanced against the color white. Once all of the values are balanced with white, the color grey is produced.
This is why the "tribe of DAN" loses its value in revelations, because the holy spirit, not longer produces a "son of man" to give a law, thus having a balanced value, the tribe with its value, changes into another tribe, and the "new value", changes the whole spectrum into grey.
Or the UFO IS PRODUCED. This is what I can do see below:
THE UFO CREATION
Before we discuss a few of the relationships above, by assigning planetary values in our solar system, we will provide the layout used above against the 12 Tribes, and Zodiac.
Twelve 0'Clock Position: Chrysolite-Comet-Tribe of Levi-Capricorn
One 0'Clock Position: ---Sardis-Mercury-Tribe of Nepthalim-Sagitarius
Two 0'Clock Position: --Onyx-Pluto-Tribe of Manasses-Scorpio
Three 0'Clock Position: -Emerald-Mars-Tribe of Ephraim-Libra
Four 0'Clock Position: --Chalcedony-Earth-Tribe of Reuben-Virgo
Five 0'Clock Position: --Sapphire-Uranus-Tribe of Juda-Leo
Six 0'Clock Position: ---Jasper-Venus-Tribe of Aser-Cancer
Seven 0'Clock Position: Amethyst-Neptune-Tribe of Gad-Gemini
Eight 0'Clock Position: -Jacinth-Sun-Tribe of Zabulon-Tarus
Nine 0'Clock Position: --Agate-Jupiter-Tribe of Issachar-Aries
Ten 0'Clock Position: --Topaz-Saturn-Tribe of Simon-Pisces
Eleven 0'Clock Position: Beryl-Moon-Tribe of Benjamin-Aquarius
The astrological constellations were applied from the "Six 0'clock" position, to match the first postion of CANCER which was assigned Jasper, and Venus. The positon of CANCER represents a separation from the NORTH and SOUTH tribes, the division of the 6 tribes, represents 6 hours on a clock, or a half hour. This is the basis of the application.
It is Impossible to have the constellations and the clock move in the same direction, since they move in different directions, however, the values applied match the order from the first and third posts in the thread. After the correct order was applied, the values were rearranged from the "twelve 0'Clock" position, so it may be a little confusing, but to avoid two sets of information I have done the above. The principle is more important, than the literal value, because the CLOCK'S HANDS CANNOT MOVE, OR IT INVALIDATES ITSELF.
What does move or it is better to say changes value, is the "tribe of Ephraim which becomes the "tribe of Joseph". The "tribe of DAN" loses value thats pictured in the center as the diamond, because "the tribe of Levi" changes value from silver to gold, when the "tribe of DAN" loses its value.
When the "tribe of DAN" loses its value the entire form of the 12 Tribes changes shape, this is the UFO or the RAPTURE which is done by the extraterrestrials*. (the SEAL or holy spirit is removed, as part of the process to complete the law, it is removed only to change its function)
It is correct for the bible to remove the "tribe of DAN" in revelations, but the value of the 12 Tribes does not change, "DAN" is technically part of a transitional phase, not a literal component of the 12 Tribes, as the common mistake describes. Cross references are used in the above description for simplicity, but you are able to follow this discussion, I will change the tone of this discussion.
(edit) the "tribe of DAN" can be viewed as the earth, but it is not viewed as one of the 12 Tribes. when it loses its value it becomes part of a transitional phase, (the stone values follow the list, but one value may be substitued for the same value in a different list, see previous post and compare) to clarify this discussion)
The Significance of the Color White and the White Culture
Jack Wilson's Vision of the RAPTURE
Jack Wilson understood something very important, sometimes its not enough simply to have white skin, to be acceptable to society. Sometimes you need to have something that for some groups of people is impossible to obtain, that is the "white culture". We will be examining the importance of the "white culture", and at the end of this discussion, I may voice a few words about the law of NEWLIFE.
Wilson said he stood before God in heaven and had seen many of his ancestors engaged in their favorite pastimes. God showed Wilson a beautiful land filled with wild game and instructed him to return home to tell his people that they must love each other, not fight, and live in peace with the whites. God also stated that the people must work, not steal or lie, and that they must not engage in the old practices of war or the traditional self-mutilation practices connected with mourning the dead. God said that if his people abided by these rules, they would be united with their friends and family in the other world.
In God's presence, there would be no sickness, disease, or old age. Wilson was given the Ghost Dance and commanded to take it back to his people. He preached that if the five-day dance was performed in the proper intervals, the performers would secure their happiness and hasten the reunion of the living and deceased. Wilson said that God gave him powers over the weather and that he would be the deputy in charge of affairs in the western United States, leaving current President Harrison as God's deputy in the East. Jack claims that he was then told to return home and preach God's message.
Jack Wilson claimed to have left the presence of God convinced that if every Indian in the West danced the new dance to "hasten the event", all evil in the world would be swept away, leaving a renewed Earth filled with food, love, and faith. Quickly accepted by his Paiute brethren, the new religion was termed "Dance In A Circle". -wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Dance
Native American circle dances deal with transitions, (The Lakota interpretation drew from their) traditional idea of a "renewed Earth" in which "all evil is washed away". This particular transition was coined "Dance in a Circle", and as this discussion implies it has a literal connotation, which is to say the UFO, or the holy spirit/SEAL, come to fullfill the "law of NEWLIFE"; is like all of the prayers and praises being answered by god for man. And that is the gift of satisfying the covenant with man. The concept of "white" is purity, has not escaped the collection of traditional indian dances, because this deals with the washing away of sin that is the fullfillment of the "law of NEWLIFE", for the people who are able to recieve the law, and come under its authority.
This is not everyone, and because a degree of his people, participated in pagan activities, that generally caused hurt to themselves and hurt to other people, he was seen as a shaman delivering a message of adapting the culture of "white" before it was too late. See below for an example of a traditional "Circle Dance" as it relates to this discussion:
Not the importance and placement of the color "white", the sequence of rotation used in certain "Circle Dances", may also mirror this discussion, this ofcourse is by design. The Holy Spirit will be fullfilling the RAPTURE. The basis and intent for the "RAPTURE" can be viewed spiritually, or more correctly, as seen through the "UFO DANCE".
A Brief Word on the Law of NEWLIFE
Sodom and Gomorrah had less than 24 hours, let alone 12 full hours before their city was burned by fire. There isn't a legal basis to give this generation any more significant period of time. With the exception, that a migration ability, has been designed into the law. I have been giving estimations as to the scope from two weeks to about a week, speaking on the matter, there are three things I would like to see maintained, and the period of time you have before the RAPTURE begins, after you see my sign, may be more than 1 day or 2 days.
1. No matter how much the spanish and black people demonstrate their abhorrance for themselves and the gospel, no matter how much they begin to hurt themselves and others. Always ensure that you express your best interests to continue to view them as human beings until they are euthanized, they are human beings after all. And for any nation to attempt to take the place of the holy spirit and start performing euthanizations, in an attempt to circumvent the "law of NEWLIFE", THIS WILL be collectively weighted against the time period you have from my sign to the RAPTURE. When the RAPTURE begins, it doesn't stop until its finished, and when its finished, shortly after the earth will be burned up. (suggestions you were given were to deal with them on a case by case basis, and avoid inflammatory displays of political and ecnomic wavering)
2. Just because your going to be RAPTURED, does not make you better than anyone else, or give you a special priority, except for the fact that if you need to leave an area to migrate, then if its in your ability to do so provision should be made. Not at the expense of dehumanizing or euthanizing others, the "law of NEWLIFE" is in place for a reason. The whole world will not be taken, neither is the whole world a principality, neither are spanish and blacks taken.
3. To be Euthanized at my sign is a form of faith and dignity for those being euthanized, its the end of suffering.
4. To be burned up by fire at the end of the RAPTURE, is a form of faith and dignity for those left behind is a form of faith, its the end of suffering.
5. To be RAPTURED by my sign, is a form of faith and dignity for those taken according to my law, its the end of suffering.
Having 5 days, would be about 5 to 10 times as much time as sodom and gomorrah had. As for the enemines of the faith and life, kill the son of man, 49 states and 99.9 will needs be euthanized also. This is not a matter of striff but a matter of faith and ending the suffering of a people. I will keep this opportunity open for the united states until I am delivered, not as a means of defense, the lord is my strength, but at the risk of being euthanized likewise, it is unlikely a nation will take a stand again a principality for the sole purpose of obstructing the law, but cannot be obstructed but the people can be hurt.
-end of ambiguity :):)
08-24-2011, 09:14 PM
The Astrological Transition of the 12 Tribes of the Gospel - The 12 Apostles
I decided to use a different method of intrepretation, which will fall in line with the existing information presented in this thread. We will also discuss the principle by the assignment of the 12 (13) Tribes.
12 Apostles of the Lamb
Before we discuss the illustration above, we will briefly describe the principle presented for the Apostles representation of the tribes. The Apostle Judas is replaced by the Apostle Matthais, similarly the "tribe of Ephraim" was replaced by the "tribe of Joseph.
Jesus Christ, was not listed as one of the 12 Apostles, he was removed by Crucifician, and later he was replaced by Paul of Tarsus, Paul of Tarsus's conversion can be dated to 31 – 36, or shortly after Christ was Crucified roughly AD 31. Paul's succession of the gospel into the book of acts, and the baptism of followers, identifies with Christ's role as the "tribe of DAN". Or Christ representing the holyspirit for mankind, as a man. (jesus crucified at 38 years old (7 B.C. - 31 A.D. (would follow jesus in the temple, then the baptism/temptation, judas was given 30 shekels one for each year of jesus's age when he first began to preach in the temple)
There is one more thing you must understand before we continue, the organization of the 12 Apostles to the 12 Tribes do not follow the territories in which Jesus selected them from, or the occupations from which they were performing previously with significant affinity, instead the relationships of the 12 Apostles to the 12 Tribes, follows their "relationships" to each other and their affinity to Christ as described in the bible, I will cover this briefly.
Ah, there is yet another thing you must understand, before I will continue this conversation. The Old Testament's description of the 13 Tribes was much more broad, in the New Testament this description became much more narrow, and by this day, if you ask me what the 12 Tribes represent, I will tell you the "law of NEWLIFE", and just as before the 13th Tribe of Dan represents the holy spirit's interest, and that is to be removed from man, and to move man, to the new earth. Now we can continue.
12 Tribes and 12 Apostles (13 Tribes and 13 Apostles)
See the illustration above, you will be provided with a supplementary, afterwards.
JJ: Judas [the brother] of Jesus: Tribe of Aser
A: Andrew: Tribe of Juda
J.J.B.: James (john brother): Tribe of Reuben
J.I.: Judas Iscariot: Tribe of Ephraim ---------------replaced by MA: Matthais of the Tribe of Joseph
M: Matthew: Tribe of Manasses
B: Bartholomew: Tribe of Nepthalim
Peter: Peter: Tribe of Levi
John: John (james brother): Tribe of Benjamin
Simon: Simon the Canaanite: Tribe of Simon
James: James [the son] of Alphaeus: Tribe of Issachar
T: Thomas: Tribe of Zabulon
P: Philip: Tribe of Gad
THE PRINCIPALITY, "tribe of DAN"
Jesus Christ: Tribe of Dan-----------replaced by Paul of Tarsus after crucifician
Supplementary - The Ark of the Covenant to the Holy Grail, to the law of newlife of today (ambiguity)
The "political" association to the 12 Tribes of the old testament, has become the "socialgraphic" association in the 12 Tribes in the new testament, and it has become a "logistical" (removed the word "demographic") association today, as with the law of NEWLIFE. This reflects the activity of the holy spirit or SEAL with mankind, to the end time, this is the end time. Failure to understand that the holy spirit or SEAL has been changing and re-defining its relationship to man (by the law), has caused many to fail to produce the conclusions I am providing in this short description, for the assignment for the 12 Apostles to the 12 Tribes.
We are given the lists of the 12 Apostles in the Gospel, books of Matthew, Luke, Mark and Acts. 6 of 12 Apostles have a "relationship" that is definable by comparison. The other 6 can be defined against their relationship as presented in these 4 lists, we will be examining the 3 I have used to complete the 12 Apostles to 12 Tribes, formula. The fourth in acts, also demonstrates this relationship, but this is a simplified discussion.
MATTHEW 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these;
The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his
brother; James [the son] of Zebedee, and John his brother;
MATTHEW 10:3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew
the publican; James [the son] of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus,
whose surname was Thaddaeus;
MATTHEW 10:4Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who
also betrayed him. 1. Simon, who is called Peter
2. Andrew his brother
3. James (john brother)
4. John (james brother)
9. James [the son] of Alphaeus
10. Judas [the brother] of Jesus
11. Simon the Canaanite
12. Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him
LUKE 6:14 Simon, (whom he also named Peter,) and Andrew his
brother, James and John, Philip and Bartholomew,
LUKE 6:15 Matthew and Thomas, James the [son] of Alphaeus,
and Simon called Zelotes,
LUKE 6:16 And Judas [the brother] of James, and Judas
Iscariot, which also was the traitor. 1. Simon, who is called Peter
2. Andrew his brother
3. James (john brother)
4. John (james brother)
7. Matthew (reversed from matt)
8. Thomas (reversed from matt)
9. James the [son] of Alphaeus
10. Simon the Canaanite (reversed from matt)
11. Judas [the brother] of Jesus (reversed from matt)
12. Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor
MARK 3:16 And Simon he surnamed Peter;
MARK 3:17 And James the [son] of Zebedee, and John the
brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is,
The sons of thunder:
MARK 3:18 And Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and
Matthew, and Thomas, and James the [son] of Alphaeus, and
Thaddaeus, and Simon the Canaanite,
MARK 3:19 And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and
they went into an house. 1. Simon, who is called Peter
2. James (john brother) (flipped form luke)
3. John (james brother)
4. Andrew (flipped from luke)
9. James the [son] of Alphaeus
10. Judas [the brother] of Jesus
11. Simon the Canaanite
12. Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor
I will speak briefly on the matter, seeing the organization I have used is not easily (cannot be) disputed
1. Each brother relationship represented a NORTH and SOUTH corresponding value
2. Each reversed relationship represented a NORTH and SOUTH corresponding value from each list against LUKE
3. The book of acts flips the value of thomas and bartholomew against LUKE so they correspond, the list of act is not seen above, because I have not used it, for your reference.
Judas [the brother] of Jesus (Thaddaeus), begins the sequence, because the tribe of DAN can be seen as a double reference to the "tribe of Aser", and Jesus Christ was the head of the "tribe of DAN", this matches the preference for correctness and placing the "tribe of Aser" before the "tribe of Juda" in the NORTH. Judas Iscariot is flipped with the value of "simon called Zelots", however, Judas is the value of Ephraim as that is the only tribed replaced, judas was the only one replaced under Christ. "simon, who is called peter" is at the top of the list and is assigned next, where you see it positioned.
Andrew is peter's brother, and is put on the opposite side. John (james brother) was flipped for "Andrew", in mark's list, so John is placed against Andrew. Then, James (John's brother), is put on the opposite side of John (james brother).
Simeon called Canannite, is not put against Judas Iscariot, because they were reversed and correspond to each other. James the [son] of Alphaeus, is now placed against Judas Iscariot, because "judas the brother of jesus, was also called judas the brother of james", next Matthew is placed against James the [son] of Alphaeus, the order was reversed against James (see matthew's list against luke's list). Now Thomas is placed against Matthew, matthew and thomas were reversed. Now Bartholomew is put against Thomas (in the books of Acts the list reverses these values, i did not include the book of acts list in the discussion), now PHILIP IS THE ONLY ONE LEFT, AND HE GOES AGAINST BARTHOLOMEW!!!!
A Short Continuation
If you are not hebrew, which is to say jewish, or in the least of judaic affiliation, then you are most likely unable to follow the conversation presented in this post, and it is not for you. The organization of the Apostles to the Tribes as presented in this thread can be viewed as "absolute". The other relationships discussed against these can be viewed comparatively, the kingdom of heaven is spiritual, but it has reflected itself against this creation, so I have spoke to that intent in this discussion of matters by association.
Speaking on another matter
The son of man will give the gift of wisdom to the principality which was recently SEALED.
REVELATION 7:9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
LUKE 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid [him] not: for he that is not against us is for us.
LUKE 9:51 And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
LUKE 9:52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.
LUKE 9:53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.
LUKE 9:54 And when his disciples James and John saw [this], they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
LUKE 10:1 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
LUKE 10:2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly [is] great, but the labourers [are] few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
The gospel is given for the BENEFIT OF MANKIND, as such, the gospel can be presented with no spiritual value. After Christ was rejected from Samaria, he baptised 70 people in his name, and those people were recieved. The Samarian's rejected Christ because they could not recieve him, which is to say "grace", but the law that is without Christ, this they could recieve, this is the gospel, understand?
Christ has SEALED, 70 million people in switzerland and italy, according to the law, by an earthquake which was physical, not by an earthquake which was spiritual. This I testify as the son.
Speaking on another matter
Jesus Christ was called Beezlebub, like the Bee, and he was betrayed before the appointment of Paul of the same tribe. Jesus Christ was betrayed by the tribe of Ephraim, for the appointment of Paul of Tarsus of the same tribe, in this the enemies of Christ have called Christ Beelezebub. The son of man will see his sign.
This is the RAPTURE by 241 Million, and by 70 Million, to man a law is given
california, ireland/britain, japan, jewish people, scientologists*, klu klux klan*//switzerland/italy. I will change the tone of this discussion.
God particle that would explain the creation of the universe 'might not exist after all'
A particle scientists believe may have played a vital role in the creation of the universe might not exist after all, experts admitted yesterday.
Last month, scientists said they were one step closer to cornering the elusive Higgs boson, or 'God particle' - a tiny but fundamental element in the construction of life as we know it.
But hope is now fading after the disappearance of signals scientists had hoped would lead them to it.
The CERN research centre, whose giant Large Hadron Collider (LHC) has been carrying out work deep under the mountains on the French-Swiss border, announced its new scepticism at a conference in Mumbai. Scientists, however, stressed that if the Higgs boson turns out to have been a mirage, the way would be open for advances into territory dubbed 'new physics' to try to answer one of the great mysteries of the cosmos.The equipment necessary to define the "god particle" ends up resembling, the instruction in the gospel, that gives way to the "law of NEWLIFE", and the new heaven and the new earth. This is a testimony in itself from the son. That the covenant of the lord of hosts is greater and far less significant than this machine is for the world, but the people who believe have they not recieved?
-end of ambiguity - do not be discouraged if I do not decided to make any other communications, this is the end time, to provolk the lord is to end your lives, yet the son of man lives.
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