Cowardice And the American Media

[Random]

Ok I thought I would Vent a Bit I was listening to the Mike Reagen Show last night and he brought up a VERY GOOD point after the Cartoon of the Profit Mohammed (a More Sucessful David Koresh on my western style opinion) All but 2 Papers in the nation Refused to publish the Cartoon because of nothing but SPINELESS FEAR....WE have freedome of speech witch means we have freedom to Blasphem if we want to.....Use or Lose it that means Freesom Of Speech to ...:AR15firin Censorship:rocketwho

[Alpha]

Random, perhaps you may want to consider this a blatant manipulation by the PTB...not only that these cartoons exist, but the aftermath to how this topic is being treated....."Problem, Reaction, Solution", comes to mind among others!...polarizaton of the populace and more.....

[Random]

Possible Alpha...It gets My goat though is that these people will chop the head off a westerner and you see a celebration in the street and innocent cheracterzation and BAM riots burnings.....Call me classless call me evil but I wish they would put that Nano tech to work on the Middle eastern/Persian Genome.......turn um all into gray goo

[Stone X]

I agree... and disagree. Let's cover the 'disagree' first, because it ends up becoming an 'agree.'

'Censorship' is when the government prevents a private organization or private citizen - either by threat of force or economic sanction - from saying, printing, or otherwise publicizing an opinion. There is no evidence that our government prevented these newspapers from printing these cartoons.

Now here comes the 'agree' part. I said there is no 'evidence' - that does not mean that it did not happen. I do not trust this government at all, no matter who (or what party) is - or has been - in control. I have no doubt in my mind that censorship is - and has been, since FDR - going on behind the scenes. Add to the fact that every president since Truman (and every congress, en mass) have undoubtedly been puppets of Illuminati-like characters, and the possibility of censorship is rampant.

One thing that supports your contention of censorship is the newspapers previous behavoirs. They claim that they will not publish the cartoons because of 'religious sensitivity' but that is a hollow claim. These same papers have been brutally critical of non-Abrahamic religions (ask a Wiccan about how they are portrayed by many of these same newspapers) and it becomes painfully obvious that they - in truth - do not give a flaming rat's behind about 'sensitivity.' Since that is true, what possibile reason could they have for no publishing the cartoons?

Censorship - true 'censorship' - seems to be the only option.

You know, the more I thought about it, and the longer I wrote this piece, the angrier I got. I am right there with you, Random - right there with you...

:cussing:

[Stone X]

Random, perhaps you may want to consider this a blatant manipulation by the PTB...not only that these cartoons exist, but the aftermath to how this topic is being treated....."Problem, Reaction, Solution", comes to mind among others!...polarizaton of the populace and more.....

Good point, Alpha...

BTW, loving the new av... very cool... :D

[Random]

Even after we saw Nick Bergs Head removed from his body witha dull Blade you did not see Americans Blame all of the middle east rioting burning up middle eastern embassies.....they are reactionary SAVAGES I am not a beleaver in evilution AT ALL but these rioters are like hairless monkeys reacting to stemuli no restraint in thir actions anyone else worried that Pakistan has nukes and the only thing between the Chimps and the Button is Dictator...

[Alpha]

Good point, Alpha...

BTW, loving the new av... very cool... :D

Thanks Stone....one of my fav's...the av that is.

I think we have more than a lot be be angry about.

Good points all...so far IMHO.

Follow the $$ is always a good barometer. Stone, Random, you make some excellent points, yet let's consider who owns the media, how they are connected etc.

There are very few "independent" broadcasters or publishers out there any more on the North American continent...one of the reasons I like reading a lot of international papers.

Our current journalists and broadcasters are just "talking heads" getting predetermined feed and "news" that has been homogized, sanitized and spun.

This, IMHO is just a lower altitude assessment of a much larger and broader agenda.

Sadly, my current best theory is, that "freedom of speech", "democracy", true political diversity on either a national or global level, just to mention a few, is just a carefully manipulated and spun illusion....just the tip of a HUGE iceberg.

Sadly manipulaton and "mind contro" is not new in this decade or century, nor is it always in your face obvious.....

[Stone X]

Follow the $$ is always a good barometer. Stone, Random, you make some excellent points, yet let's consider who owns the media, how they are connected etc.

There are very few "independent" broadcasters or publishers out there any more on the North American continent...one of the reasons I like reading a lot of international papers.

Our current journalists and broadcasters are just "talking heads" getting predetermined feed and "news" that has been homogized, sanitized and spun.

This, IMHO is just a lower altitude assessment of a much larger and broader agenda.

Sadly, my current best theory is, that "freedom of speech", "democracy", true political diversity on either a national or global level, just to mention a few, is just a carefully manipulated and spun illusion....just the tip of a HUGE iceberg.

Sadly manipulaton and "mind contro" is not new in this decade or century, nor is it always in your face obvious.....

Excellent points. 'Follow the money' is a good axiom to follow, and I agree that there is an illusion being created by 'big media.' Mental manipulation is on display for everyone to see. And I mean ALL of the mainstream media types - there is no longer an 'independent' media (excepting a few internet mavericks), at least not in America. I also get much of my news from smaller, international sites, for the same reasons.

So Alpha (and anyone interested), where does the money lead us to, in your opInion? For my money (pardon the pun), it all eventually leads back to the UN, which in turn leads us to the World Bank (via the Federal Reserve Bank), the IMF, and WTO (throw in that worthless WHO for good measure). And I think we all know where THOSE lead to...

Illiminati, anyone?

BTW - these are merely opinions gleaned from my own limited research. There are other, far more educated folks who can connect d#mned near all the dots. I am merely a humble student... :notworthy

[Random]

I am simple I tend not to look deep like Alpha and Stone.......I just think the Editors and Owners of the Papers and News networks are scared they might have to go into hideing like Salmon Rushdi had to for the Satanic Verses......The Maker of the Cartoon already has a Price and a Fatawa on his head....

[smadewell]

International Banking Community, IMO. You can't peg one person as being the head of this Global Oligarchy. Some will say that it's the Rothschilds and others that it's the Dang Lizard People and others that it's all part of some grand Alien conspiracy and others that it's Satan himself running the show.

The bottom line is that it's a global conspiracy and the agenda is to enslave and dominate and cull and fleece the herd of sheeple as needs be in order to maintain the Elites and their position at the tippy-top of the food chain. It's that simple. These guys are sharks and they live to find ever more efficient ways to feed their hunger and ... I've never seen a skinny shark. Anyone up for some shark fin soup? Don’t I wish!?! :-D

[Project]

IMO these riots are controlled by agent provocateurs just like the MO of the police in our nations use against protesters.. it is a well known ruse, and works very well as the general populace only sees the televised violence perpetrated by some random fellows, and does not see the well organized black hooded gangs roaming the streets fomenting unrest and committing the first acts of vandalism, fanning whatever flames already existed. Who controls them? CIA perhaps, doesn't really matter, as it is in aid of the larger picture, of the new 'crusades' as Bush puts it. The new enemy.

Nick Berg? Fishy to say the LEAST http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/5/15/22827/0477

Problem, Reaction, Solution all the way

[smadewell]

as to the issue of the cartoons.... i'm with project on this one. btw, here are the links i found regarding these offensive cartoons.

http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp?id=14274&cid=15&cname=Politics

http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/news2006/europe/danish_020206_232.jpg

here's the video feed:

http://images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_video/windows/tv_one/cartoon_030206_56k.asx

i loved the one about the virigns! too bad http://info2us.dk/muhammed/ bowed to pressure and killed the link!

I wonder what Bez would say? Probably, .... "Size of a ChickenSh*t!"

[smadewell]

Cartoon Protesters Direct Anger at U.S. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060209/ap_on_re_mi_ea/prophet_drawings)

In Baghdad, Iraq's top Shiite political leader criticized attacks on foreign embassies by Muslims.

"We value and appreciate peaceful Islamic protests," said Abdul Aziz al-Hakim. "But we are against the idea of attacking embassies and other official sites."

TRANSLATION: "We are puppets of the US Guvmint and the Powers-That-Be within the International Banking Community. We are publically against those who attack resources our Masters' deem important. If this confession isn't enough to make you want to continue these attacks - which is what our Masters really want, because it'll give 'em an excuse to put a boot in your ass - then what is? Hey! Our collective nose couldn't be farther up their ass!"

[Alpha]

Excellent points. 'Follow the money' is a good axiom to follow, and I agree that there is an illusion being created by 'big media.' Mental manipulation is on display for everyone to see. And I mean ALL of the mainstream media types - there is no longer an 'independent' media (excepting a few internet mavericks), at least not in America. I also get much of my news from smaller, international sites, for the same reasons.

So Alpha (and anyone interested), where does the money lead us to, in your opInion? For my money (pardon the pun), it all eventually leads back to the UN, which in turn leads us to the World Bank (via the Federal Reserve Bank), the IMF, and WTO (throw in that worthless WHO for good measure). And I think we all know where THOSE lead to...

Illiminati, anyone?

I'd love to be able to pull that curtain Stone and reveal the true "wizard"...heck, wouldn't we all who even consider the existance of the Illuminati?


International Banking Community, IMO. You can't peg one person as being the head of this Global Oligarchy. Some will say that it's the Rothschilds and others that it's the Dang Lizard People and others that it's all part of some grand Alien conspiracy and others that it's Satan himself running the show.

The bottom line is that it's a global conspiracy and the agenda is to enslave and dominate and cull and fleece the herd of sheeple as needs be in order to maintain the Elites and their position at the tippy-top of the food chain. It's that simple. These guys are sharks and they live to find ever more efficient ways to feed their hunger and ... I've never seen a skinny shark. Anyone up for some shark fin soup? Don’t I wish!?! :-D

I tend to agree with smade, although I can't say I'd put the International banking community at the top of my list.

I will say that there is something very significant about bloodline as clearly demonstrated by the dominance both of "royal" families and many successfull world leaders.....the need to keep these bloodlines "pure" ....the secret societies and organizations to which they belong...the rituals associated with these.

I also beleive that there is not just one, but many opposing factions battling for supremancy, dominance, power, wealth etc...not just one....and perhaps not only of "earthly" origin....and add a dimensionality to it for a more complex view.

This is a huge topic....I'm still digging and reading....on the quest to get closer to the current best theory.

What I am convinced of is, whoever "they" truly are, is that they have been manipulating us since the beginning of time as we know and chose to define it....via religeon, politic. In earlier times it was more simple. Now it has become more complex so we can add media, politic, marketing etc. to the mix and plan. That said though, serfdom or slavery, manipulation and control of the masses has just morphed in appearance and approach....the bottom line agenda is basically the same....my 2 cents.

This would be a good dicussion for Conspiracy Deck....NWO Section - The Illuminati - Who are they?.....if anyone is interested I'll start a thread like that over there so we don't take away from Random's thunder here about this current event and how it unfolds....let me know. :)

[Nemo]

Good points here. You can be sure that the 'US media' is working FOR the PTB - they are the 'fourth branch of the government' - the propaganda wing. Everything must be read or observed in this way. Notice that all the networks had fancy logos and patriotic music right away for Bush's 'War of Terror.' Lots of American flags flying. And also notice how many protest songs you hear on the radio these days by young people.......none.

So, yes, agent provocateurs. If the press is fanning a flame, you can be sure they are fanning a flame set by a sister spook agency. You can be sure that the 'artists' behind the cartoons and the instigators of the riots are all working for US.

You have to reduce your enemy to sub-human status to keep a war going. They are worried the war is loosing traction.

Let us all offer a continual prayer to your personal gods that the true enemy will finally be revealed.

[smadewell]

Let us all offer a continual prayer to your personal gods that the true enemy will finally be revealed.

I was about to agree with this statement in full and then I remembered my fencing instructor pulling me off to the side after we learned all the basic moves. He stood me in front of a mirror and told me to assume the "on guard" stance. He then told me, "This is your true opponent. Before you can even hope to win a match against others ... you must first defeat him (i.e., my image in the mirror)."

Wanna reveal and defeat the PTBs? Conqueror yourself first. Subjugate your own Evil Impulse before you even attempt to stand against the Evil Impulse of others. The true enemy is within.

Ain't buying that? Remember the tree-cave scene in the swamp from the Empire Strikes Back? Remember who was behind Vader's mask after Luke cut Darth's head off?

[smadewell]

giving cred to Nemo....

http://www.imaginativeworlds.com/forum/showpost.php?p=69057&postcount=69