Art Appreciation In Time

[Marlantis Buzz]

http://www.lonelycastleart.com/artist.php?action=view&p_id=2085

After reviewing approx., 300 ancient paintings I collected a few that just were somewhat out of place. The above is the first we are going to examine together. No hurry. Take your time and look. Notice this is a nice piece of work. Brilliant colors, well balanced, by a steady hand armed with both wide and fine brushes. Dated 1640...my favorite time for art by concerned people that just love connecting the past to our present times. So lets pick it apart.

!. Our model here just doesn't look like a God of War but more like a Fireman or member of the Village People.

2. Why didn't the artist continue with fine art application when he/she painted the face in the shadow of that unusual helmet?

3. The right hand is hidden under the cover. It doesn't appear the artist was affraid to paint hands, the other one came out pretty good. Now look down from the hidden hand...notice the faint impression of a clinched fist under the cover toward the bottom? CLUE. Hold that thought.

4.The shield on the floor looks too good and kinda like something out of a Sci Fi movie.

5. Here and there the artist went out of their way to add great detail on a particular spot where the rest of the surface around it doesn't have the same flow of attention.

6. On the subject's stomach is a quarter profile of a squinty eyed fellow with a large head...looking to our right. And just to the right of that there is an opening with what looks like a white goose head with a red bill. The red is obviously a shadow but the artist should have gone out of his way to keep that spot from looking like it does I would think.

I'll give you all some time to examine this before we go into the next phase. Feel free to point out any other unusual items of interest if you like. I think this is going to be a tough one and that's why I picked it.

[Marlantis Buzz]

Below is an inverted copy.
A: These two areas don't go with the flow tothe rest of the painting.

B: some definition to the right hand surfaces to show a club hand with two stubb fingers. Perhaps real perhaps note. Lower backdrop of the cloth resembles a dolphin head. Not important but worth noting for later if a report is to be written.

C: The face on the stomach has gone and replaced with a hanging foot. There is a new totally different faint face image there but not worth noting at this time.

D: The left foot lost it's little toes and turned into a straight tube/snake head combination. Not a big deal yet but worth keeping in mind for later.


Already I see problems with this painting. I one way it could hurt the value but where I think it's going it will increase.

[circledancer]

I think it is indeed odd, He is not the least God-like, and somewhat odd, especially that mustache....anachronistic to say the least...also his posture in the pose is not too formidable, nor is his physique. the artist probably drew on contemporary weaponary for the painting....I imagine there was not much in the way of reference matieral back then in his local....cool thread!

[Marlantis Buzz]

This painting has the air about it as being projected on the surface and traced/painted out. Not possible then that I know of, however; this is not the only piece i've found from that far back that had wrong theme, wrong time written all over it. This painting is coded. I haven't even bothered to open it yet you said the right words. Everytime I come up on one of these I ask myself...left over from Atlantis or is it a product of a traveler. If a traveler, this is actually pretty cool. Locked in time. there you are acting the part, leaving hints that it's out of place but back then he probably found several horizontal encounters with the unknowing. Whom ever own this painting as more of a story for it now if they are open minded enough to report. The price will go up for there is a market for coded art. Circle Dancer...the house buys you a top shelf drink for your honest participation...and good eye. I really didn't want to open this anyway...it gets a little rude but the guy at least presents the right icon at the end that it is a trickster image. I tip my hat to him on that and who knows, perhaps we might meet him to tell him that. From the looks of him he is a 2030s grade from the Fresno Bulldogs buy a degree. Now that ought to bring him out of the wood work and meet us.

[circledancer]

This painting has the air about it as being projected on the surface and traced/painted out. Not possible then that I know of, however; this is not the only piece i've found from that far back that had wrong theme, wrong time written all over it. This painting is coded. I haven't even bothered to open it yet you said the right words. Everytime I come up on one of these I ask myself...left over from Atlantis or is it a product of a traveler. If a traveler, this is actually pretty cool. Locked in time. there you are acting the part, leaving hints that it's out of place but back then he probably found several horizontal encounters with the unknowing. Whom ever own this painting as more of a story for it now if they are open minded enough to report. The price will go up for there is a market for coded art. Circle Dancer...the house buys you a top shelf drink for your honest participation...and good eye. I really didn't want to open this anyway...it gets a little rude but the guy at least presents the right icon at the end that it is a trickster image. I tip my hat to him on that and who knows, perhaps we might meet him to tell him that. From the looks of him he is a 2030s grade from the Fresno Bulldogs buy a degree. Now that ought to bring him out of the wood work and meet us.
I think some artists did use the 'camera obscura' for tracing subjects, although it think it was used more in the work on cityscapes after the discipline of perspective was introduced into art work, it may have been used in portraiture though....looking at this picture though...I dunno?

[Marlantis Buzz]

Through out history it is apparent that there were tools from an advanced time well hidden and used. And why not. Where I put my foot down is when they fell into the hands of those like Hitler. He drove himself nuts working it to the limit without the use of a computer. I hate to think of how many he killed to push that limit. And those not knowing the whole story that were his top dogs, they didn't understand the whole story. Funny it takes this long for something like that to finally get out.

[smadewell]

it's a dang ufo and a grey wearing a tin foil hat poking its head up for a look see! ARGH!!!! :wall:

[gormworm]

Somehow, .. the bit about it looking like the face of a GREY, .. looking down from a-top the flying saucer seemed more obvious when the image was right side up, .. than it does upside down.

Oh well.

[gormworm]

There.

That's a little bit better.

... I think.

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[gormworm]

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With a little bit of imagination, .. I can see 2 EBEs in the reverse B&W shot.

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[Captain Kundalini]

Speaking of Art Appreciation:

Art History (http://www.arthistory.cc/)

[Marlantis Buzz]

I think the base theme involves the digestive system. The goose head is throwing me. Too bad we don't have the artist's name.

[Marlantis Buzz]

Artist name: Diego Velázquez, one of many that I'd classify along the same lines as Da Vinci if you catch my drift. This guy is clever.

:hail:

[Marlantis Buzz]

Update on this painting is in the making. I'll explain where I was wrong and what lessons were learned. i'll explain how I got suckered in to examine it and what wonderful things are resulting. Those of you participating have done well. I'm excited.

[circledancer]

looking forward to it Buzz.

[Captain Kundalini]

I appreciate Art. Agreed


I appreciate George and Ian, too. :D

[circledancer]

I appreciate Art. Agreed


I appreciate George and Ian, too. :D
:veryhappy :laughing: :veryhappy :laughing: :veryhappy

[Nemo]

You guys better step away from the bong.

[Marlantis Buzz]

Trial and Error
Now you may ask yourself, why would Buzz show this link. To start, I found a perfect map of Cuzco in a book the other day, Mythology of the American Nations, page 193, ©2004/Annes Publishing. The below link is kinda in the ball park of the noted map but just not the same, yet I'm listing it to later stress a point.
http://www.csuchico.edu/~curban/Images/SacsayMap2.jpeg

Anything in particular about this map and the painting? I really don't expect you to figure it out yet. But if you do, you will receive the Marlantis Toaster Award. The map in the book will be much easier but I can't find it on line yet...if it's out there. I may have to scan it with permission.

[snowbird]

I just discovered this thread. When I saw the painting, it immediately reminded me of the Austrian mounted army my father told me about at the turn of the 19/20th century. He saw them and was very impressed when he lied about his age to get into the war theatre during the first world war. I was surprised that it was Spanish.

This gentleman has his face in quite a bit of shadow, suggesting general features except for the mustache, i.e. the generic soldier...the mustache, if I remember my pa correctly, was compulsory. Right arm relaxed but hidden with hand on a club suggesting always being ready. The man is undressed but keeps his helmet on even though the shield is on the floor... suggesting the perfect soldier is always on call. If you notice his right shoulder, you'll see some indentations suggesting a healed wound as it is not round and shiny as it should be... the perfect soldier is brave and overcomes battles to fight again.

This is just the obvious that I'm seeing - I don't know anything about codes, but am ready to learn and I'm interested in phase two.... carry on.

snowbird (all that being said, I am an arm and leg gal....) :D good specimen.../!

[Marlantis Buzz]

Very good Snowbird. Now, out of your observation collective, which one matches the closest to the Cuzco map. You have it but you need to narrow it down. Remember, there is a toaster waiting for the one whom answers this right.

[Marlantis Buzz]

Ahhhh yes. The map I spoke of from the book is here...

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoglyphe

This map is amazing.

[circledancer]

Ahhhh yes. The map I spoke of from the book is here...

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoglyphe

This map is amazing.
Seems to be a rose in the upper right corner..........? I don't read german though.

[Marlantis Buzz]

Don't sweat the German. Our concern is only the map at this jucture.

So who is going to be the hero and receive the Marlantis Toaster...today is the deadline, otherwise I'll answer the issue and move right along to the next.

[smadewell]

Seems to be a rose in the upper right corner..........? I don't read german though.it looks like carol channing wearing her hello dolly hat to me. i must be missing something. no toaster for me. :(

[circledancer]

OK Buzz, now I see an obalisk bisecting a circle....any closer? (spelling)

[Marlantis Buzz]

The right hand that is covered is of the same shape as Cuzco and some other locations I'll not reveal at this time.