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Dera
09-25-2006, 09:11 PM
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A funny thing happened just before a ceremony was to be held last week to commemorate a $3 million sea wall around the village of Kivalina way up on Alaska's Arctic coastline. The village, home to Inupiat natives for 4,000 years, is about to be washed into the sea, and the 1,800-foot wall is supposed to stop that. But along came a modest storm, with winds of up to 40 miles per hour, and 160 feet of the wall washed out. The ceremony was canceled. Kivalina is one of an estimated 200 villages in the far North, fighting for survival, and at least three, including this historic community, may be lost within the next decade. The reasons are many, but a growing body of research suggests that global warming is at least partly to blame. There is less ice along the Arctic coastline because of warming ocean temperatures, and thus, less protection from relentless winter storms that undermine the coastal area. It's sad, because it affects people who have closer ties to Mother Earth than most of us. As they have for many generations, the Inupiats depend on hunting and fishing for their livelihood, both of which are also threatened by global climate change. Ironically, their distant ancestors came to this narrow spit of land each winter because it offered them the best chance for survival. Now, Kivalina itself is doomed. But it's not alone. Kivalina is sort of like New Orleans in cold storage. Both face enormous odds in the years ahead. But each story will have a different ending. The people of Kivalina will have to move somewhere else. Anywhere else. After all, who's going to cough up the billions of dollars that it would take to relocate the residents of a bunch of Alaskan villages.

New Orleans will be rebuilt, at least partly. Few dare even ask the question, "Is it worth it?" That's unfortunate, because that question is going to have to be asked over and over again, in areas from Miami to Kivalina, from New York City to San Diego. Scientists have made their case. Global warming is real. Now it's time to address the really hard decisions. How are we going to deal with it in the years ahead? Even if we were successful in reducing the emissions of greenhouse gases, which doesn't seem likely at this point, the planet would continue to warm. It's time for community leaders from city hall to the White House to take center stage away from the scientists and apply the same level of energy and dedication to addressing the problems that will inevitably come. Science and technology will play a role in solving those problems, but the tough decisions are shifting to the political front. Does it make any sense to allow continued high density developments along the nation's coastline? Are some areas just too vulnerable to hurricanes and coastal erosion? Should New Orleans be saved? How about Kivalina? And here's one more: How much time do we have?

Probably a lot less than we think. There is mounting evidence that changes in global climate will feed upon each other, and nowhere is that more evident than in the Arctic. Warmer winters are causing the permafrost to melt, which in turn, releases more carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere, which causes the temperature to go up, ad infinitum. Millions of acres of Alaska's forests have been wiped out in recent years because warmer winters have allowed insects, particularly spruce beetles, to thrive, turning once-green forests into brown morgues. We aren't going to be able to stop that, but it may be possible to slow it down. And one idea shows just how desperate the situation has become. Since the 1970s, scientists have talked about taking bold initiatives to counteract our sins of the past and gain control over the weather. Maybe we could build our own volcanoes that would spew tons of climate-cooling sulfates into the upper atmosphere each year to offset the greenhouse gas emissions. This nuclear winter scenario would require injecting about as much stuff into the upper atmosphere as the eruption of Mt. Pintabuto in 1991, according to researchers at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder. That might gain us about 20 years before it all hits the fan, according to the researchers, who say they aren't pushing for this program, although their computer model says it would help.

But the scientists themselves are probably worried about the most likely outcome. More politicians would decide to put off any solutions for 20 years. These difficult decisions need not be met with panic, unless they are delayed too long. But it will require cooperation on a national level that has been rarely seen in the past. And that won't be easy to accomplish because not everybody faces the same kind of problems from global climate change. The town I live in is also in Alaska, more than 1,000 miles from Kivalina. Frankly, I could use a little global warming, and the consequences here are likely to be mild, at least compared to Kivalina. And some communities will clearly benefit from global warming. More rain in some areas will mean better farming. But weather will probably become more unpredictable, even if we build a few artificial volcanoes, and storms will likely be more powerful. It's not the end of the world, but it could all be made a lot easier if political leaders would do the hard thing and make the tough decisions. We have a little time. We need to use it wisely.

Captain Beyond
09-25-2006, 10:13 PM
Lots of oceanfront property will be gone in the next 20 years. Insurance companies will not insure them much longer at any cost! Same thing with the "Big Easy", no mater what they do, it will eventually all be gone! It is sheer madness to build a city below sea level, but they will rebuild much of it only to lose it all again one day.

As the sea level rises and the water warms even more, it's just a matter of time for many places on earth to go under! Kind of like building in a flood zone. Duh!:icon16:

loner
09-25-2006, 10:24 PM
Sea level used to be well over 300 feet lower than it is now and that wasn`t all that long ago. Perhaps the assumption that mankind can cause such a drastic change in our environment is more than a bit arrogant. But, that aside for a moment, wouldn`t the former seacoast areas be the most obvious places to look for clues relating to lost civilizations? :scratchch

Captain Beyond
09-25-2006, 10:35 PM
Sea level used to be well over 300 feet lower than it is now and that wasn`t all that long ago. Perhaps the assumption that mankind can cause such a drastic change in our environment is more than a bit arrogant. But, that aside for a moment, wouldn`t the former seacoast areas be the most obvious places to look for clues relating to lost civilizations? :scratchch

Seems like a logical place to look for past civilizations! Many places, from Japan to Cuba, South America just to name a few!

Dera
10-24-2006, 08:30 AM
This may be a little long, but I think it is interesting. If I shouldn't post stuff that is this long, someone please tell me.

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To hear the locals tell it, you would think they were referring to a loved family member declining in old age. "It hurts, it hurts," Philipp Carlen said of his feeling toward the vast Rhone glacier, which once came to the edge of his hotel but now has receded several hundred meters. For the glacier, whose soft contours and dirty gray surface make it resemble some huge sea creature, a whale perhaps, is rapidly receding in the mild autumn weather, by 3 ½ to 4 ½ meters, or 12 to 15 feet, a day. Eight thousand years ago, Carlen said, the glacier was the largest in Europe, with arms that reached all the way to Lyon in France. Indeed, it remains the source of the Rhone River, which flows westward into France and from there into the Mediterranean. Now, however, it is only the fifth-largest glacier in Switzerland, and experts foresee the day, probably in this century, when the glacier, all 10 kilometers, or 6 miles, of it, will melt away to nothing.

The shrinkage has consequences for the little village that owes its name - Gletsch means glacier in Swiss German - and its very existence to the icy behemoth. Like most of the people in Gletsch, Carlen, 45, spends only the summer in the village; in the winter, he practices law in the nearby town of Brig. Gletsch began its role as a summer residence in the mid-19th century, Carlen said, when the family of a soap maker named Joseph Seiler opened a small hotel here that grew over the years into an establishment consisting of two wings, with accommodations for 150 guests and a pampering staff of 300. The first tourists were British aristocrats and their families. The Seilers' hotel had its own butcher shop, bake shop, post office, and even a chapel that still stands, with its slender belfry, for services in the Anglican rite. The family later built a second hotel, up the mountain nearer to the glacier, that Carlen now owns. In those days, Carlen said, the glacier spilled down from its mountain abode into the valley below reaching almost to the edge of the village. But as the glacier shrank, so did the number of visitors to the hotel; the automobile challenged a little steam railway as a means of access to Gletsch and made day-trips possible, and the number of guests fell further.

"It was not necessarily the shrinking glacier, but today people come by car, and don't stay overnight," said Armin Jost, standing in the shadow of Gletsch's large post office, now boarded up. Jost, 31, takes care of the roads, in the season when Gletsch is accessible to traffic, and keeps an eye on the buildings. The hotels, he said, now stay open only from May to October. In winter, snowfalls accumulating to the hotel's second story, and with drifts even higher, cut Gletsch off from the world. "In the old days, two or three hotel employees would spend the winter on the hotel to look after it, only emerging in the spring," he said. First, the Seilers sold the hotel in the village to the local government; in the 1980s, they sold the second hotel to Carlen's family. The glacier's suffering is not unique. All of Switzerland's glaciers, and there are more than a hundred large and small, experts say, have lost about 15 percent of their surface in just the last two decades. The experts say global warming is the reason, though particularly hot summers also played a role.

"This year was a terrible year for the glaciers," said Max Maisch, an expert on glaciers at the University of Zurich. "July was very hot, though August was cool; but September was the warmest in 140 years. Many glaciers are collapsing on the edges." In recent years, to help the Rhone glacier over the hottest months, Carlen has taken a lesson from the care of stranded dolphins and whales, and has spread large tarpaulins of special fleece on the glacier's edges during the hottest months. "It helps a little," he said, reducing the shrinkage to about 1 ½ meters a day. The shrinkage is painful for Carlen because, for generations now, his family has been boring a tunnel each year into the glacier so that tourists can enter its icy confines. But with the shrinkage, the tunnel, about 120 meters long, must be dug and redug, further up the mountain, by chainsaw. Now a zigzagging lace of paths and wooden planks covers the side of the mountain that visitors must climb to get to the mouth of the tunnel. In winter, the tunnel has other uses; Carlen stores barrels of wine there.

Walther Meier, a retired pharmaceutical employee, and his wife stood near the chapel gazing up the mountain where the tongue of the glacier was just barely visible. They had hiked up the valley toward the mountain and passed stone markers, with the years 1818 or 1856 that showed how far down the valley the glacier had once stretched. Meier recalled his last visit to Gletsch 15 years ago when much of the glacier was still visible from the village. "Every year it recedes quite a bit," he said, shaking his head. Carlen is philosophical, reflecting that things could have been worse. In the early 1980s, he said, the Swiss government drew up plans for a dam and a power station at the end of the valley that would have submerged Gletsch. "Those plans remain in a drawer in the government building," he said. "And I hope that's where they stay."

loner
10-24-2006, 09:05 AM
That last article makes me wonder about a place in the Alps I visited in the month of September... many years ago. I took the tram to the top of the mountain (Der Zugspitze) and saw the backside of the peak was still covered in snow with people out there skiing. I wonder if it`s still snow-covered year-round. :33:
And I went kayaking the next day on the Eibsee... :cool2:

Dera
10-26-2006, 09:01 PM
Summery Fall

A woman sits on a terrace in the sun in Seelisberg, central Switzerland, Thursday, Oct. 26, 2006. With temperatures reaching 83 degrees, the second half of October has been the warmest in Switzerland since the beginning of weather monitoring. (Photo: AP/Keystone, Urs Flueeler)

blackeyes
10-27-2006, 11:18 AM
copy and paste this Dera.

Dera
10-28-2006, 06:47 PM
copy and paste this Dera.

Thanks. I didn't know how to get the writing out. The more I learn about computers and how to operate them, the more I realize that I know very little.:monstereyeroll: :shrug: :sigh1:

blackeyes
10-29-2006, 02:38 PM
Thanks. I didn't know how to get the writing out. The more I learn about computers and how to operate them, the more I realize that I know very little.:monstereyeroll: :shrug: :sigh1:They should start teaching PhotoShop in grade school.:32:

Dera
10-29-2006, 04:42 PM
They should start teaching PhotoShop in grade school.:32:

Ah, the brashness and folly of youth! Blackeyes, dear, when I went to grade school I doubt that anyone had even dreamed that one day people would have personal computers! :lmao: :-D :lmao: Please have a little consideration for your elders who are new to this game and need to learn! :smily012: I guess not knowing PhotoShop is neither fatal nor hopeless. I could still learn, dontchathink? :thinkerg:

blackeyes
10-29-2006, 05:13 PM
Ah, the brashness and folly of youth! Blackeyes, dear, when I went to grade school I doubt that anyone had even dreamed that one day people would have personal computers! :lmao: :-D :lmao: Please have a little consideration for your elders who are new to this game and need to learn! :smily012: I guess not knowing PhotoShop is neither fatal nor hopeless. I could still learn, dontchathink? :thinkerg:Paint is a handy tool. Copy a section of the color you want and paste it over the lettering. It's a good place to start.:rotate:

Dera
10-29-2006, 05:25 PM
Paint is a handy tool. Copy a section of the color you want and paste it over the lettering. It's a good place to start.:rotate:

Thanks. I'll see what I can do.

Dera
10-29-2006, 07:47 PM
Paint is a handy tool. Copy a section of the color you want and paste it over the lettering. It's a good place to start.:rotate:

I Googled "Paint" - nada. Do you have a URL? Is there any kind of tutorial?
Hey Blackeyes, it is tough learning from scratch all by yourself. I retired in the old mainframe days--did only data entry into a program someone else wrote! With no chance to learn this stuff at work or from anyone, I have been struggling. My young kid grandson is familiar with all of this, but he lives one state over to the left and besides, he just turned 16 and can't think about anything but girls, girls, girls and band practice. His outfit is 400-strong and they are hoping for the Rose Parade! They just went to the Homecoming Dance in a 50 ft. Hummer Stretch Limo. Do you think I have any chance of learning anything from him (that a grandma should know)? :18:

crossfire
10-30-2006, 01:36 PM
I Googled "Paint" - nada. Do you have a URL? Is there any kind of tutorial?
Hey Blackeyes, it is tough learning from scratch all by yourself. I retired in the old mainframe days--did only data entry into a program someone else wrote! With no chance to learn this stuff at work or from anyone, I have been struggling. My young kid grandson is familiar with all of this, but he lives one state over to the left and besides, he just turned 16 and can't think about anything but girls, girls, girls and band practice. His outfit is 400-strong and they are hoping for the Rose Parade! They just went to the Homecoming Dance in a 50 ft. Hummer Stretch Limo. Do you think I have any chance of learning anything from him (that a grandma should know)? :18:
"Paint" is a program that comes with the Windows operating system. On your taskbar, press "start," then "all programs," then "accessories," then "Paint." There are instructions available by clicking on "help" on the menu bar, or by simply pressing "F1" on your keyboard when you have the program opened. Paint is a fun and useful program! :)

Here's a URL for a step-by-step MS Paint tutorial:
http://www.lkwdpl.org/classes/MSPaint/paint.html

Dera
10-30-2006, 04:20 PM
"Paint" is a program that comes with the Windows operating system. On your taskbar, press "start," then "all programs," then "accessories," then "Paint." There are instructions available by clicking on "help" on the menu bar, or by simply pressing "F1" on your keyboard when you have the program opened. Paint is a fun and useful program! :)

Here's a URL for a step-by-step MS Paint tutorial:
http://www.lkwdpl.org/classes/MSPaint/paint.html

Oh! Wow! Cool! Thank you! I found it - I feel like a dope, but who cares?-
Yes! Now all I gotta do is figure how to use it. I tried taking a class at the Adult Center, but most of the time was spent keeping the other students awake and on the same "page", so I became a dropout. Cool! Thanks again.:dance:

blackeyes
10-30-2006, 04:36 PM
Glad you found it. Paint is useful for resizing photos too. Have fun.

Debunkinit
02-03-2008, 06:14 AM
Ah, the brashness and folly of youth! Blackeyes, dear, when I went to grade school I doubt that anyone had even dreamed that one day people would have personal computers! :lmao: :-D :lmao: Please have a little consideration for your elders who are new to this game and need to learn! :smily012: I guess not knowing PhotoShop is neither fatal nor hopeless. I could still learn, dontchathink? :thinkerg:

I'm only 39 and when I graduated my school had just proudly instituted a word processor lab. Computers were something expensive that guys with pocket protectors and horn rimmed glasses used to avoid socializing with anyone but the people on what were then called bulletin boards, accessed through putting your phone on a cradle. All computer screens were green with the same font, orange I think possibly black. The floppies were huge, truly floppy items that held about 1mg of information and nobody ever thought you'd need something that could hold more. CD? How does saving money relate to computers? A flash drive? Pure science fiction. We knew that one day you could pop a cassette tape into a computer, until then, they were pretty much useless.

Blackeyes, I shrunk your GIF for you, I don't think you got it yet.