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Aquarius
12-24-2004, 03:31 PM
Part 1
18 December 2004)
THE SECRET BUSH PROPHECIES UNSEALED
Recorded on 21 December 2000
Friends,
It is time to release a series of predictions I made nearly four years ago, on 21 December 2000, around the time the US Supreme Court overruled a re-count in Florida and handed the US presidency to G.W. Bush. I did not publish them, because I hoped such dire auguries about a single or a two-term presidency of George W. Bush would never happen. I had promised myself to release these prophetic documents only if Bush won a second term. Here they are, published for the first time. I will follow these with a present day assessment. Some of these events have already happened in Bush's first term or are well along the way to fulfillment in his second.
It must be remembered that the following statements presage the events we all now take for granted sometimes by months and years. I wrote these words and cealed them away long before the economic energy crisis from Enron’s collapse, the 9/11 attacks, the recession of 2002, Bush’s rape of ecology, the retreat of civil rights, the fall of Saddam Hussein, and the occupation of Iraq, to name a few:
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Let us see what may be born out of a Bush presidency in the coming 30 years...
"Al Gore, was politically 'assassinated' by a ruling fired from the bench of a politically partisan US. Supreme Court. This court first stopped and killed a re-count of thousands of disputed Florida state ballots. I predict that in a few months' time when reporters and scholars count these ballots without further legal stays by the Bush campaign, they will show that Gore also won this disputed state and its electoral votes by as much as 20,000 votes!
"Gore has become the president that never was, as I recently predicted a few weeks ago [early December 2000]. If he indeed stands as one of two presidents I foresaw dying in office in the coming four years, he and his family may consider themselves fortunate that his 'death' in office was career oriented--not 'corpus' oriented. He will survive the next four years.
"With Gore denied his destiny, thus we begin the four-year era of a lamed presidency of a divided nation.
"George W. Bush will not finish what is viewed as an illegitimate term in office. He runs the danger of suffering some debilitating nerve related illness from the stress of his job. He also could face fatal injury from either a heart attack, plane accident or from assassination.
"There is danger of assassination from either domestic right wing terrorists or from associate assassins in the employ of Saddam Hussein. Indeed, the revelation of the source of such an assassination attempt could lead to the Third Gulf War I foresee the Bush administration launching in the coming few years.
"It pains me to say this about any human being. I mean the president elect no harm, and I pray that what I am about to say is not going to happen. Take what I am about to say as a warning. Heed it and avoid it, Mr. Bush:
"Before this death in office, President Bush will be seen as a weak president dominated and manipulated by a cabinet of powerful paternal figures and forces outside of his presidency.
"Bush will try to resurrect Reaganomics which is essentially a cold war-style economy; namely, one that among other things increases the debt but builds a large amount of prosperity for the wealthier classes of America by expanding the military.
"You cannot have a cold war economy without creating some kind of cold war. So I fear the Bush administration will manufacture one.
"An arms race in Asia will begin thanks to the President Bush, Secretary of State Colin Powell and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld's quest to create an ABM (Anti Ballistic Missile) program.
"For the sake of humanity's future there could be no greater mistake seeded into being today. The creation of this program is the doomsday key that could trigger the fulfillment of many of Nostradamus' and other great prophets' predictions that warn us of a third world war coming 'after' the cold war was over.
"If this program is not scrapped an arms race could lead to a nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India, then China and the US and finally Russia and the US. in the 2020s.
"The ABM program will break US disarmament and ABM treaties with Russia, and a 'cold peace' rather than a cold war may result. Arms reductions between the two superpowers will stop. The threat of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) will return with Russian and US missiles poised to bomb the former cold war adversaries back into the stone age at a moment's notice.
"The Bush tax cut will go forward but it will only slow the recession. By 2002 there will be at least one major economic crisis for America. Fuel and power grid sustainability may be the cause, but I still hold to my belief that a voodoo economy can make up its own rules and right itself. The source of its collapse into a deep recession or even a depression will come from things beyond the voodoo economy's control: ecological and climatic disasters, or shortages in the world of power, food and water. A division between the rich and the poor in America will widen. HMO's will collapse as will the insurance agency.
"World leadership of the surviving superpower will be viewed outside America as mediocre and erratic. This view will encourage more terrorism and wars. The next two years could see a resumed war in the Balkans, if Bush makes good his campaign pledge to pull US ground forces out of Kosovo and Bosnia.
"There will be a third Gulf War between now and 2002. Saddam Hussein will be destroyed in this blood feud between the House of Bush vs. the House of Hussein, but the overthrow of his dictatorship will destabilize the region and bring on Nostradamus' predicted 27-year world war of terrorism.
"I do believe Saddam Hussein is the man Nostradamus points to as the Third Antichrist. If that interpretation is right he will be the first to fall in the next Gulf War, after which America will be targeted by terrorists wielding weapons of mass destruction. New York will be a main target.
"In a Bush presidency, ecologically sound policies to avert the disasters coming from global warming will be delayed. Global warming will speed up. Efforts to create viable alternative energy systems will be delayed. Fossil fuel production will be increased.
"[Supreme Court] Justice Souter's statements are prophetic. The US Supreme Court has wounded its credibility. New appointees from Bush will see a new Supreme Court that will interpret the US Constitution in favor of corporations over people. Women and ethnic minorities will see many of their gains in civil rights over the past few decades taken away. Thus with the election of a president by five justices of the Supreme Court, we begin what has been foreseen by prophets as a tumultuous era of political and social civil war in America."
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AN ASSESSMENT OF THESE PROPHECIES
Aquarius
12-24-2004, 03:33 PM
Part 2
AN ASSESSMENT OF THESE PROPHECIES
FOUR YEARS LATER
In four years time it has become an undisputed fact that Republican Katherine Harris, Secretary of Florida State, denied tens of thousands of predominantly African American democratic party voters their ballot by her felon purging project. In Duval County alone, election officials tossed 27,000 ballots into the trash--of these, 16,000 came from predominantly Democratic precincts. Most of these 16,000 voters, as it turned out, were not convicted felons. A majority of them would have voted for Gore. That means the 20,000 vote edge I predicted Gore would actually have in Florida could have come from nullifying mostly African American ballots in one Florida county alone. The Miami Herald's post-election re-count of all Florida's ballots, released the following year, concluded that Gore would have won the state and the presidency by 23,000 votes were it not for statewide irregularities.
Gore did become the president that never was.
Bush is now half way to the goal of surviving the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction that occurs once every 20 years when presidential elections take place on a year ending in a zero. This astrological aspect has claimed the life of every president since 1840, except for Reagan who survived an assassination attempt in his first term. It is to be hoped that this curse was broken with the survival of Reagan . Bush, therefore, may live out his second term, rendering Gore the victim of a political--and not literal--presidential assassination by dark stars.
Bush did struggle with the shadow of illegitimacy for four years as predicted. A clear majority vote for a second Bush term in 2004 has generally assuaged the stigma of Florida voter fraud in 2000, although voting irregularities in Florida and Ohio in 2004 beg to question legitimacy again. An Ohio re-count has no future; nor will there be a healing. Bush will continue to preside over a deeply divided nation.
The Jupiter-Saturn conjunction had fortunately not weighed in to claim his life in his first term, however, there were three serious attempts to assassinate Bush, that I know of. The secret service thwarted the second and third of these. The first had been a drive-by shooting of the Texas governor's mansion during the 2000 Florida election dispute. Agents apprehended a second heavily armed man in a pickup truck trying to penetrate outer security at the president's Crawford Ranch compound in his first year in office. Later, White House security wounded a third armed man intending to shoot Bush in the Oval Office after they caught him climbing the White House security fence.
Two-term presidents by themselves are rare. Even rarer is the prophetic fact that no president, elected under the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction who has lived unscathed by violence or health danger in his first term has survived a second term in office. President Lincoln survived his first term only to be assassinated a few months into his second. Even Franklin Delano Roosevelt did not survive a second term after the dreaded conjunction. FDR was reelected for an unprecedented third term when Jupiter and Saturn passed together over election night skies in 1940, but he died early in his fourth. Perhaps we can hope that President Bush will be lucky. At least he need not be too concerned of assassins associated with Saddam Hussein, as I incorrectly presaged. That is unless we can consider fundamentalist al-Qaeda operatives, or former deposed and secular Iraqi Baathists as associates in a shared struggle against Western, Judeo-Christian powers, who mount a successful assassination of Bush.
When I predicted cryptically that two presidents might die in office, I left open the potential that Bush could die either before his vice-president "in chief" succumbs to heart trouble, or after Cheney must replace the fallen president only later to die in office himself. Even if President Cheney does not die in office, the man he picks as his vice-president will be the designated neo-Conservative and "Christianist" successor to Bush in 2008.
Bush did launch a third Persian Gulf war half way through his first term as predicted. The first two gulf wars were fought between Iran and Iraq (1980-1988) and Iraq vs. a US coalition in 1991.
Bush found his destiny as a war-on-terror president because of attacks on the US on 11 September 2001. Prior to this, his first 18 months in office were indeed marred by missteps that colored him as a weak and unprepared man for the job. He was then--and still is--regarded by many especially around the world as a puppet president manipulated by powerful and paternal figures in his cabinet. The second term cabinet still includes them. Neo-concervatives such as Vice President Cheney, his political adviser Carl Rove, and Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld. Add Condi Rice also to that list. Bush's former National Security Adviser and new Secretary of State has just replaced the last moderate voice in the cabinet, the former Sec. of State, Colin Powell.
America has never seen its European alliances in worst shape, nor has an American president become more globally unpopular and feared for his unilateralist, erratic, and what some call his "cowboy" diplomacy.
Unfortunately I was right 18 months before 9/11 when I wrote "America will be targeted by terrorists wielding weapons of mass destruction. New York will be a main target."
Two hijacked jets hit the World Trade Center in New York. Even though another hit the Pentagon in Washington DC, and another jet crashed on its way to target, the horrific image and loss of life in New York will forever mark it in every mind as the main target. I am hoping that I did get the sequence wrong--that these attacks were to come as retribution for the US occupying Iraq in a Third Gulf War. However they may presage a future terrorist attack with WMD on New York. If a second attack on America does come, my sense is it will happen at the end of Bush's second term, just before, or in, the year 2008. A backlash of anger, most of it undeserved, could see the Republican Party candidate lose the presidency in 2008. A slim majority of voters will see the attack as a symbol punctuating an inept betrayal of Republican and Bush Administration promises to protect the homeland from a terrorist attack coming through open and unguarded ports and wide open borders with Mexico.
Fortunately, the last four years has not seen a resumption of the Bosnian/Kosovo conflict, although the coming four years will see the region's greatest test as Serbs, Bosnian Muslims and Albanians are handed back much of the power to govern themselves. The wars may return after the last US contingents and the rest of the European SFOR troops depart the Balkans.
Bush has reincarnated Reaganomics and magnified its latent abuses by increasing the national debt twice a fast as Reagan. He has managed in four short years to plunge a historic surplus in the black into a whopping $413 billion deficit red whole. Bush has gone far in constructing a "cold war" style economy, that is, strong on military spending, and tax benefits for the richest 2 percent of Americans. He replaced a Communist threat with new boogie men to fight for decades--Islamist terrorists.
Conspiracy buffs regularly snow me under with imaginatively conjectured theories pointing to the 9/11 attack as the neo-Conservative's version of Hitler's Reichstag fire scam; in other words, a manufactured national crisis enabling them to undermine American freedoms in a new and fascist emergency war government. True, neo-Conservative writings penned as far back as 1992 by men either present in the Cabinet or recently employed by the Bush Administration speak of the need for a "Pearl Harbor" event to gain power and rapidly advance their agenda of a new world order.
Has Bush manufactured an enemy as I predicted he would four years ago?
I will say this. Even less conspiratorial minds gape in disbelief at the many warnings of a terrorist "Pearl Harbor"-style attack shrugged off and ignored by the Bush cabinet until it was too late. The sin of an attack may not be that of commission. Still, the "Commission" on the 9/11 attack, in its final report at the end of 2003 does condemn it as a sin of "omission." Usama bin Laden's designs to attack the US were well known by Bush . He just chose to ignore it. One does not manufacture Pearl Harbor events. One needs only to conveniently forget that the door was left open, accidentally on purpose.
With that said, there is no doubt that Bush did abandon the ABM (anti-ballistic missile) Treaty as I predicted, and now China plans to add another 600 ICBMs to its nuclear tipped arsenal by 2015. North Korea has moved forward with its atomic bomb program and may already have three or four atomic weapons. The governments of South Korea and Japan have openly mused about starting a crash nuclear weapons program to counter the North Korean bomb. The Asian arms race has begun! If this trend to rearmament does not change then a nuclear war between the US and China will happen in the 2020s.
The nuclear crisis I predicted four years earlier for Pakistan and India did happen. But for the pause of forbearance of one man, the Indian Prime Minister, South Asia would have seen the first nuclear bush war between India and Pakistan in late 2001 fought over Kashmir. The second motivation for an Indian nuclear strike was Pakistanis financing, aiding and abetting Kashmiri terrorists who attacked the Indian Parliament shortly after America was attacked in September 2001. Clearly the stratagem of these al-Qaeda linked terrorists was to initiate open war with Muslim Pakistan and Hindu-dominated India.
Usama bin Laden has ever aimed to instigate a war that unites the Islamic world against what he believes are its key enemies: The Royal House of Saud, Israel, and America to the West, the Russians to the North, and Hindu India to the East. Will he try to bring about another Indo-Pakistani nuclear crisis in the near future? You need not be a prophet to bet on it.
Even more likely than this, is a successful assassination of Pakistan's dictator--and America's ally--Musharraf in the next four years. Al-Qaeda would gain a secure base of operations in a radicalized and nuclear Islamist Pakistan.
Now to US relations with Russia.
The initial friendship between Bush and Russian president Putin has cooled. Tensions between Russia and the US over Ukraine's national elections in the autumn of 2004 may forebode the return to a cold war, or better, a cold peace as predicted four years back.
Aquarius
12-24-2004, 03:36 PM
Part 3
Now to the economic predictions.
Bush's tax cut did go forward--not one but two cuts. These did only slow the recession, as predicted. The economic crises for America's middle class has come. Bush's fuzzy-math economics are reminiscent of the Reagan years voodoo economics, only he has less capital to thriftly spend away than Reagan did. Bush puts a lot of lipstick on a pig of modest economic growth for some--mostly the upper middle class and the rich. Still, we can give and continue to give a pig's kiss goodbye to jobs outsourced in a second term. The dollar has fallen to historic lows against the Euro and the British pound. Interest rates will rise, and the emperor's new clothes of invisible inflation will finally be exposed for all to see in 2005 onwards. The division between American rich and poor has widened as predicted and it will continue.
The economic crisis did take place in 2002. It must be remembered that I wrote about an energy-related economic crisis long before the Enron debacle. Enron’s demise, along with the 9/11 attacks, exacerbated the collapse of the airline and other industries, but the recession has since moderated for some parts of the economy. Shortages of power and energy are still here as I predicted, but a larger energy and financial crisis I foresaw remains lurking in the second term of Bush. It will come again because of disruptions in Middle Eastern oil exports. America's growing military disaster in Iraq will trigger it sometime in the latter half of 2005, or as late as the summer of 2007.
Now to the Middle East.
Four years ago I did personally believe that Saddam Hussein had the highest likelihood for being Nostradamus' Third Antichrist. He was deposed in a Third Gulf War, as foreseen. US occupiers, hunted down and killed the heirs, his sons Uday and Qusay. Saddam Hussein's trial is about to begin soon and the year 2005 will see him as the last of the House of Hussein destroyed in his blood feud with the House of Bush.
Perhaps Nostradamus' 27-year war of the Third Antichrist--code named "Mabus"--has begun. Bush and bin Laden are the key adversaries in this war--and the key candidates for Mabus who are still in power, and waging war. Saddam Hussein has been the first to "fall" from power, and perhaps quite soon will fall, dangling on a hangman's noose after a swift Iraqi trial. Today I no longer "personally" believe as I did four years ago that Saddam is the front runner for Nostradamus' Third Antichrist. The two final contenders now appear to be Bush and bin Laden. However, beyond what I, or any one else, personally thinks, we must divine what Nostradamus was thinking, four-and-a-half centuries ago, when he wrote his prophecies.
One aspect of my prophecy of four years ago is right on schedule: The war and occupation of Iraq and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's dictatorship "have" destabilized the Middle East. It would seem Nostradamus' 27-year war of the Third Antichrist has indeed begun. The timing of Saddam's quick fall and quick lynching soon next year gives his dark destiny one last claim to be the "first to fall" in Nostradamus' Third Antichrist prophecies.
Consider how the near future could worsen, by design or by chance when Saddam dies. His execution will come in 2005 or 2006 at the latest, just when the US military occupation of Iraq is most likely to collapse and a three-way civil war erupts between Kurds, Sunni and Shia Iraqis. The Middle East begins to sink into a widening chaos. Shortly after Saddam's execution, American forces in Iraq find themselves flanked by terrorists undermining the Saudi Arabian rulers to the West. To the East, Shia dominated Iran, a burgeoning nuclear power, openly finances and arms Shia Iraqis in their fight against Sunnis, Kurds and American occupying troops. In the year that Saddam is executed, or shortly afterwards, tensions between the US and Iran lead to a US-Israeli air strike of Iranian command centers, missile and air bases and nuclear weapon manufacturing sites. Iran pumps thousands of troops and irregulars into Afghanistan and Iraq to fight Americans there. Iranian Shahab and Fateh missiles rain down on US bases around the Persian Gulf, in Bahrain, Qatar, and Kuwait. They fall on the Green Zone in Baghdad. They fall on Israel--a nuclear power with approximately 200 to 400 atomic warheads. When Saddam falls forever, and the war widens, will dreams of Israeli and Palestinian peace be dead? Will Israel strike Iran with her own weapons of mass destruction?
If all these escalations should transpire and consume the entire Middle Eastern region, the land of biblical Armageddon, in the year or shortly after the year of Saddam Hussein's execution, what then can Nostradamus watchers conclude about the timing?
Would Saddam Hussein yet become "Mabus" the "first to fall" from which "shortly after" comes a "terrible destruction of people and animals" across the Middle East? Was this what Nostradamus saw?
Time and events will tell.
Let us move on to other things predicted accurately four years ago.
Bush's ecological policies did hasten the pace of global warming. Fossil fuel demand and consumption are at an all time high, as supply slackens. Ten years ago I proposed that humanity would not fight the third world war over differences of religion, or politics. It would come as a global plague of nuclear bush wars fought to control dwindling resources of fossil fuel, food and water. This is what a Pentagon study a decade after I published "The Millennium Book of Prophecy" (see http://www.hogueprophecy.com/mllbk.htm) recently coined as "climate wars."
So far, Bush's "Armageddonomic" policies are on track to harvest such a future, twenty years hence. I must state for the record that this president is at least a passive proponent of current evangelical interpretations of "end times" prophecy. He subscribes to evangel-pop interpretations of the Book of Revelation that require among many things that a third of the world must be destroyed before the messiah can return. I do not believe he openly strives to make this so. Perhaps Bush is an unconscious dupe with the power to advance such a future by small or large steps in the next four years.
Now to the apocalypse about to be waged on American freedoms.
The US courts under Bush have put the body corporate before the body politic--average citizens. Patience delayed Bush's fulfillment of predictions I made seeing him replacing retiring Supreme Court justices. The second term, however, will see that transformation of the Supreme Court to the extreme right accomplished. Bush's second most lasting legacy (beyond being a catalyst for economic and military disasters) will be his successful effort to swing the Supreme Court, the Appellate Courts and the rest of the judicial system to the right for a generation. In Bush's next four years, the neo-Conservative-cum-evangelical crusade will begin to turn the social clock back decades for women's and minority rights. The Supreme Court may not overthrow Roe v. Wade in Bush's second term, but it will fall nonetheless, even with a Democrat president in office after 2008, because of the right-wing Supreme Court Bush will leave behind. Four years ago, I predicted a civil, secular and religious divide of America. It is here, entrenched across the US map in bastions of blue-liberal states in a sea of rural red-conservative states.
THE POSTCRIPT FROM 21 DECEMBER 2000
I would like to close with the second half of the prophecy manuscript from four years ago. Back then I proposed a solution or at least a constructive response to these dire predictions. What I wrote back in 2000 may be pertinent--if not more pertinent--now. The bracketed additions are notes from today:
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"The future of America's body politic is not pretty, but perhaps such a future is necessary. A puppet president might shock the American people from their sleep in the bed of fossilized traditions.
"When I say that, I do not mean the Democrats are going to make things much better in an Al Gore presidency in 2004 or in a Hillary Clinton presidency in 2008.
[Clearly I was wrong about Gore's attempt at a second run, although he seriously considered it. By missing his window in destiny, he lost the chance to ever regain what was stolen in 2000. If he had run he would have defeated Bush in 2004. That future timeline is gone. Al Gore will never be president, but he may be a happier man for his decision not to run in 2004. I still predict Hillary Clinton will be president in 2008.]
"The Democrats may have more sensitivity to the poor, the ecology, etc., but real lasting change in the human condition will never come from political parties or politics, as such. Both parties are two sides of the same problem. All parties are the problem!
"The first thing we all need to understand is this: civilization has yet to happen on this planet! Democracy has yet to appear in the world!
"We are still waiting for the birth of the human race on this planet. It has not happened yet. The seed potential of humanity has not collectively flowered. True, there have been individuals who have reached their full potential of being aware and loving human beings. You have flowering individuals like Radha, Buddha, Rabya, Jesus, Socrates, Gurdjieff, Osho, and Krishnamurti, etc., but what we call humanity is better defined in fact by a contemporary Sufi mystic, Suleiman Dede, as 'talking animals.'
"Talking animals rule by Mobocracy. That is what we have today in the world. The spread of Mobocracy. A real Democracy has never happened on this planet, because you need a real humanity first, not one that conditions its children from birth onwards to be identified with borrowed knowledge, dead moralities, fear, hate, mediocrity and hypocrisy.
"If we do not awaken to this fact that we have not yet seen Democracy born in this world then our mobocracies will see the world overtaken by a new form of global fascism in the 2020s. Fascism will arise again out of the chaos of a humanity that has over-bread, over fed and over exploited its world. The entire world and its mobocrasies will become another version of the Weimar Republic of Germany between the world wars. Weak and ineffective democracies in the 2020s and 2030s could be replaced by new Hitlers promising messianic salvation and order.
"Awaken to the fact that neither your humanity nor your democratic values have flowered yet. If enough individuals awaken to this challenge many of the dire predictions I've made today could still be avoided.
"It may turn out that Democracy may yet arrive on this planet when all political parties--and the political mind as such--fade away. What we need is a system of governing that is a-political. Something that is more a skill, such as being a surgeon. Do we vote for which surgeon will operate on us? We must look at the job of wielding power as something requiring the highest training in ethics, wisdom, meditativeness, and civic responsibility. A leader in that system, as well as the voters who choose him or her, must be judged by their merits to rule or to choose a ruler.
"What is needed in the world is a Meritocracy, not the current Mobocracy. The political system I would support is still waiting for us a few centuries ahead of these troubled times. But such a system lies within each of us like a seed ready to sprout and blossom now, only if we begin husbanding the seed of Meritocracy today."
***
Alarming times work to awaken humanity. Even the darkest tyrants among us bless evolution's rub with friction. This is the strange and mostly unwelcomed blessing of darkening times.
Fear not. A new dawn will come after darkness rubs us all to action.
John Hogue
Rogue Scholar/Author:
Nostradamus: A Life and Myth
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007140517/qid%3D1052350823/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/002-0782031-2192829
Nostradamus: The New Millennium
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007140924/hogueprophecyc0d
Nostradamus: The Complete Prophecies
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/ncomplet.htm
The Last Pope: The Decline and Fall of the Church of Rome
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/lastpop.htm
Messiahs, The Visions and Prophecies for the Second Coming
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/books.htm
Essential Nostradamus: Prophecies for the 21st Century and Beyond
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/essntln.htm
The Millennium Book of Prophecy
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/mllbk.htm
maryals
12-26-2004, 03:42 AM
Sure, you posted this in The General Metaphysical Section, and the word "Prophecy" is often used, but, I am sorry Friend, this is a Politics and Government thing you've posted.
If it quakes like a duck, yadda yadda yadda....
Merry Christmas :D
Mary
Alpha
12-27-2004, 11:21 AM
Part 3
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"The first thing we all need to understand is this: civilization has yet to happen on this planet! Democracy has yet to appear in the world!
"We are still waiting for the birth of the human race on this planet. It has not happened yet. The seed potential of humanity has not collectively flowered. True, there have been individuals who have reached their full potential of being aware and loving human beings. You have flowering individuals like Radha, Buddha, Rabya, Jesus, Socrates, Gurdjieff, Osho, and Krishnamurti, etc., but what we call humanity is better defined in fact by a contemporary Sufi mystic, Suleiman Dede, as 'talking animals.'
"Talking animals rule by Mobocracy. That is what we have today in the world. The spread of Mobocracy. A real Democracy has never happened on this planet, because you need a real humanity first, not one that conditions its children from birth onwards to be identified with borrowed knowledge, dead moralities, fear, hate, mediocrity and hypocrisy.
"If we do not awaken to this fact that we have not yet seen Democracy born in this world then our mobocracies will see the world overtaken by a new form of global fascism in the 2020s. Fascism will arise again out of the chaos of a humanity that has over-bread, over fed and over exploited its world. The entire world and its mobocrasies will become another version of the Weimar Republic of Germany between the world wars. Weak and ineffective democracies in the 2020s and 2030s could be replaced by new Hitlers promising messianic salvation and order.
"Awaken to the fact that neither your humanity nor your democratic values have flowered yet. If enough individuals awaken to this challenge many of the dire predictions I've made today could still be avoided.
"It may turn out that Democracy may yet arrive on this planet when all political parties--and the political mind as such--fade away. What we need is a system of governing that is a-political. Something that is more a skill, such as being a surgeon. Do we vote for which surgeon will operate on us? We must look at the job of wielding power as something requiring the highest training in ethics, wisdom, meditativeness, and civic responsibility. A leader in that system, as well as the voters who choose him or her, must be judged by their merits to rule or to choose a ruler.
"What is needed in the world is a Meritocracy, not the current Mobocracy. The political system I would support is still waiting for us a few centuries ahead of these troubled times. But such a system lies within each of us like a seed ready to sprout and blossom now, only if we begin husbanding the seed of Meritocracy today."
***
Alarming times work to awaken humanity. Even the darkest tyrants among us bless evolution's rub with friction. This is the strange and mostly unwelcomed blessing of darkening times.
Fear not. A new dawn will come after darkness rubs us all to action.
John Hogue
Rogue Scholar/Author:
Nostradamus: A Life and Myth
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007140517/qid%3D1052350823/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/002-0782031-2192829
Nostradamus: The New Millennium
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007140924/hogueprophecyc0d
Nostradamus: The Complete Prophecies
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/ncomplet.htm
The Last Pope: The Decline and Fall of the Church of Rome
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/lastpop.htm
Messiahs, The Visions and Prophecies for the Second Coming
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/books.htm
Essential Nostradamus: Prophecies for the 21st Century and Beyond
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/essntln.htm
The Millennium Book of Prophecy
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/mllbk.htm
Excellent post, Aquarius....many thanks.
Maryals, I would have to say that the majority of "prophets", remote viewers, psychics touch and discuss the "politcal", not only geopgraphically, but worldwide. In fact, one could say that organized religeon, past and present is a "political" system in it's own right.
I would suggest that this thread certainly belongs exactly where it is here, where Aquarius used it to illustrate the bigger picture, as Hogue summarizes above, using current political examples to paint the canvass for his summation through the lens of political prophacy related to the state of humanity.
When Hogue says: ""The first thing we all need to understand is this: civilization has yet to happen on this planet! Democracy has yet to appear in the world!
"We are still waiting for the birth of the human race on this planet. It has not happened yet. The seed potential of humanity has not collectively flowered.".................................I second that emotion. :)
maryals
12-27-2004, 02:38 PM
Oh, I agree, these are excellent posts and important points to ponder. Perhaps I should have said that. I apologize for not at least complimenting
Aquarius and thanking "A" for sharing the information. :)
I'm usually the first one to say that some topics intertwine others and combine two or more "subjects", making it difficult at times to decide just where to post something.
Thankfully none of our Moderators here are "Topic Nazis" ;)
I don't believe everything John Hogue writes, or says when he is on the radio. However, IMNSHO he is one of the more credible students and writers of Prophecy.
Happy Holidays :D
Mary
Shecoda
12-27-2004, 05:55 PM
I prefer to think that the human race is like a child. There is the infant stage, the toddler stage, the adolescent stage, the teenage stage, the young adult stage and finally the mature adult stage.
It is my personal belief that as a whole humanity is stuck in between the adolescent and sub heading of the young teen stage. If we manage to keep humanity going long enough, we will grow into the more mature stages. But just as a child needs to learn and grow, so does a civilization.
Every truly mature unselfish, non self centered adult, every truly spiritually advanced person, every person who works trying to spiritually advance themselves and impart unto others who are ready to listen, the experiences and knowledge gained during that journey to spirituality, advances the maturity of Humankind.
We do have a long way to go, we aren't there yet. It will take us a long time to advance without a catalyst because our lifetimes are too short to truly become completely mature.
Ninjutsu
11-24-2005, 12:55 PM
Things that Go Bump on The Board
Interesting Thread...
--- Ninja
Topper
11-27-2005, 02:09 PM
after reading thru the long predictive past ... I noticed John H. forgot Kahlil Gibran and he sure didn't mention anything on how Jimmy Carter won the Nobel Peace Prize.
If you ask me its very difficult to seperate out the higher from the lower
when discussing the past/present and potentional future of mankind.
So its ok to post it here
maryals
12-12-2005, 04:08 AM
Hindsight is 20/20, I re-read much of the posts here. Let us not forget that Russia, France and Germany were against ousting Saddam because they were getting huge oil revenue breaks and kick-backs. Now that Saddam is out, those Countries are no longer getting the Gravy.
The Author Graham Hancock constantly reminds us to NOT put our own "spin", be it EthnoCentric, Spiritual, Cultural, Political and so on, to Research and Prophesies.
Let's re-read The Hogue Prophecies as if in a vacuum of sorts. "Just the facts ma'am" .
MaryAlice need more rum for the eggnog :beerchug:
Topper
12-12-2005, 12:10 PM
You can't be serious that Graham said that? I'm stunned. How can any author not put there own spin upon there research from time to time?
Next I'll be reading that politics is just a word game of control for the betterment of the masses.
maryals
12-12-2005, 02:59 PM
You can't be serious that Graham said that? I'm stunned. How can any author not put there own spin upon there research from time to time?
Next I'll be reading that politics is just a word game of control for the betterment of the masses.
GH said it and has written it. That is one of the many reasons I admire his work. That is one of the many reasons that GH, Jon Anthony West, Robert Bauval, and others, are "Outs" with current Theories passed off as fact by European Archeologists. These European Archeologists consistently interpret Buildings, Temples, writings, etc, from the European point of view.
You are not too far off the mark on one thing, IMNSHO. "...politics is just a word game for the control of the Masses". A word Game, today, to Divide, to Polarize, to give "True Believers" false sense of security or fear or both.
All I'm saying is, when giving a Prophesy or vision, it is a mistake to "fill in any blanks" based on one's own Ethnocentric, Political, Spiritual, Religious, wealth status, etc. Let the Vision or Prophecy speak for itself. Any "blanks" will be filled as they should be when it is necessary, or when WE Hew-Mons are ready for such information.
MaryAlice :flowers1:
Ninjutsu
12-14-2005, 05:24 PM
[ The Twenty Seven Years of Terror ]
John Hogue and Various Sources say Nostradamus predicted 27 Years of Terror in relation to Mabus...
The Rise to Power and Time of The Desert Bull known as Saddam is basically A Twenty Seven Year Time Period
Just a Coincidence - Right?
--- Ninja
Ninjutsu
12-14-2005, 05:37 PM
[ The End of The World ]
John Hogue and Various Sources say Nostradamus predicted that The End of The World would happen in The Year 3797 and that Mankind would be living in Cancer and Aquarius at The Time of The End of The World...
Hmmmmmmmmm
The Zodiac Signs of George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney are Cancer and Aquarius
And
3797 and 2006 are The Same Main Number in Numerology - The Number 8
3797 [ 26 ] [ 8 ]
2006 [ 8 ]
Just a Coincidence - Right?
--- Ninja
maryals
12-15-2005, 01:08 PM
Hi there Ninjutsu. Hmmmmmm you could be right, or not. I stopped believing "coincidence" a long time ago. Ahhhhh, BUT, is that personal outlook on life putting a person spin on "The Hogue Prophecy"?
Now, I believe Planet Earth IS moving into the Age of Aquarius. Our Experts in Astrology can explain that. We are moving OUT of Pisces and into Aquarius.
Your post: "John Hogue and Various Sources say Nostradamus predicted that The End of The World would happen in The Year 3797 and that Mankind would be living in Cancer and Aquarius at The Time of The End of The World...
Hmmmmmmmmm
The Zodiac Signs of George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney are Cancer and Aquarius
And
3797 and 2006 are The Same Main Number in Numerology - The Number 8
3797 [ 26 ] [ 8 ]
2006 [ 8 ]
Just a Coincidence - Right?"
Gives some interesting facts. Add your facts to my Intuition that tells me something very awful is within sight and we have, well, What do we have?
I need a cup of coffee. Looking forward to more discussion :)
MaryAlice
Sadhu
01-27-2006, 01:48 AM
JOHN HOGUE PREDICTIONS FOR 2006 AND BEYOND
Friends,
A clear sense of the spirit defining a decade often manifests in its latter half. The 1960s didn't fully achieve their tumultuous quintessence of free love, pop music revolution, hippies, psychotropic drugs, eastern gurus, civil rights protests nor gain the full measure of its tone of social experimentation and upheaval until after 1965. Forty years later the "00" decade has taken its time revving up to its place in history. It will come out of the gates in 2006 defining itself as the "uh-oh!" decade.
Uh-Oh! Global crisis. Here it comes.
William Strauss and Neil Howe in their book "The Fourth Turning" propose a theory that modern history, just like nature, passes through cycles of seasons--what they call generational "turnings"--lasting around 20 years each. The cycle repeats itself or undergoes a crisis era, a "fourth turning," every 80 years or so.
I highly recommend this book and it's detailed theory how history, like nature, has its repetitive seasons. In brief summary, let's look back at the last cycle in American history. The previous Fourth Turning came during the late 1920s with the Stock Market Crash and a decade long global depression. The latter perpetuated a climate of chaos and economic disasters that aided the rise of Fascism, the attack on Pearl Harbor and eventually climaxed with America entering and ultimately winning Second World War.
Rallying to the crisis gave birth to a new 80 year cycle in what Strauss and Howe call The First Turning: the American High (1946-1964). It was an era marked by America's confident expansion as the leader and pioneer of a new world order in all forms of art, technology economics and politics.
The Second Turning (1964-1984) was defined by the authors as "an Awakening, a time of spiritual exploration and rebellion against the now-established order." Interest in alternative medicine, Eastern religions, and rebellion against the government (Vietnam, Watergate, etc.) erupted during this time.
The Third Tuning from 1984 through 2005 is called the Unraveling. It is marked by growing malaise in the people, the spread of government incompetence, and a deepening division of the nation in cultural wars between liberal and conservative, evangelicals and secularists. Strauss and Howe describe it as "an increasingly trouble era in which individualism [I would add selfish-ism, or the meanness of me-ness] triumphs over crumbling institutions."
New Year's Day 2006 brings us to the Fourth Turning--a new twenty-year era of crisis and calls for renewal lasting to the mid-2020s.
Strauss and Howe, in 1997, introduced a set of scenarios extrapolated from their understanding of Unraveling-era trends for the dawn of the current Fourth Turning. I present some of them in a much abbreviated form below:
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1.) Fiscal crisis, tax rebellions and demands for a new Constitutional Convention.
2.) A global terrorist group blows up an aircraft and says they possess weapons of mass destruction.
3.) The US launches a preemptive strike. Terrorists threaten to blow up an American city.
4.) War is declared and in the name of homeland security many personal freedoms of Americans are threatened. Many opponents charge, and I quote, "That the president concocted the emergency for political purposes."
5.) Whether rumor or fact, this accusation leads to a nation wide strike and foreign capital flees the US.
6.) An economic and constitutional crisis ensues. The president declares emergency powers rescinded by Congress.
7.) A new communicable virus spreads adding to the anarchy and lawlessness across the nation.
8.) The people demand the president declare martial law. Meanwhile, anarchy in former Soviet republics leads to a crisis between the US and Russia. Iran allies itself with Russia. "Gold and oil prices soar. Congress debates restoring the draft."
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Some of this may sound familiar. Some of it has already happened, although not exactly in the same sequence described by their forecast eight years before.
The current Bush administration has attempted tax reform with mixed and politically partisan results. The global terrorist group, al-Qaeda exploded planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Al-Qaeda sought weapons of mass destruction, so far without success. America did launch a preemptive war against Iraq on the suspicion that its strong man, Saddam Hussein, did possess an arsenal and was about to use it on the US. The threat of a mushroom cloud destroying an American city didn't come from a terrorist, but from those in the G.W. Bush administration arguing for a rush to war.
The US Patriot Act used to flush out terrorist cells inside the country has many Americans concerned that their privacy and freedoms are being sacrificed. The year 2005 ends with yet another new scandal besetting the US president over charges of an illegal use of wire taps. Conspiracy theories thrive in an atmosphere of growing suspicion and doubt. A wild belief gathers strength even among the mainstream Americans that the president and the neo-Con movement exploited 9/11 and went to war in Iraq to advance their global, political agendas.
The US economy though slowing down in growth still ranks as the most powerful on earth, yet there are worrying signs that a reckoning is coming. Wealth is increasing for the economy at a record rate, but fewer Americans are sharing in the bounty. The middle class shrinks. CEOs undermine its future by out-sourcing jobs. The symptoms of The Unraveling are in full swing in the first five years of the new century. The president and congress seem unable to solve problems. They squander the public fund throwing money by the hundreds of billions on a string of failures such as nation building abroad in occupied Iraq. At home, FEMA is a pathetic nation rebuilder in places like New Orleans and the Mississippi coastline ravaged by Hurricanes Katrina, and Rita.
There is a new virus on the horizon, as Strauss and Howe predicted. But Avian Flu, fortunately, has not spread its contagion to humans just yet. Nevertheless, their scenario about Russia and former states of the Soviet Union falling into anarchy has not happened. Iran has not sent an economic earthquake through the global oil economy by allying to Russia.
Not yet at least, though 2006 may see Iran send a similar shock through the oil marketsbecause of a new conflict in the Middle East.
We hear more calls for constitutional reform, new amendments to the Bill of Rights, election reform, etc., but a full blown constitutional crisis still seems like a distant nightmare for most. Back in the 1970s, the late Chicago psychic, Irene Hughes, predicted a new Constitution for America as late as the mid-2020s. I doubt Strauss and Howe are aware of her prediction but it coincides with their forecasted end of the current Fourth Turning in 2025.
Draft and rumors of military draft abound though. I do not see it happening in 2006.
Now let's move forward from the extrapolation of futurologists to the realm of divination.
Though I agree with most of the work of Strauss and Howe, my territory of prophetic study also includes more paranormal "research" into the shapes of things to come in 2006 and beyond.
The two gentlemen like to call this "00" decade the "Oh-Oh" decade. I would augment this term slightly and define our times as the "Uh-Oh!" decade from 2005 onwards. The first five years of "00" saw us pass through the phase of "Oh" look at this, "Oh" look at that potential danger lurking on the future's horizon. One can draw parallels to future gazers in the 1920s who had foreboding "Oh-Ohs!" of their own, such as signs on the horizon of economic crisis, Fascism, Japanese Imperial expansion and the rise of Adolf Hitler in Nazi Germany.
Think of times like 1936 when you look at the future of 2006. The danger of world crisis and war was clear to those not in denial of it. Perhaps times in 2006 will be more than foreboding. With the new year, and by the end of March, we start the rapid descent into crises that no longer loom on the horizon but beset us.
The Oh! Oh! decade now becomes "Uh Oh!" The danger is no longer far away. It has arrived. So has the time to positively rally in response to crisis.
THE PREDICTIONS FOR 2006
Let us begin from the earth and the seas. The prediction I published back in 1998 was on the mark when it came to New Orleans:
"The destruction of a major southern US metropolitan area, such as Miami or New Orleans, by a global warming enhanced superhurricane will take place in one of the first five hurricane seasons of the new millennium."
"1000 for 2000: Startling Predictions for the New Millennium", p. 17
Four months have passed since Hurricane Katrina destroyed New Orleans and the Mississippi coast. Except for the French Quarter and the Garden District most of New Orleans at night is an unlit and fetid ghost town. It is now expected that by next Mardi Gras celebration less than a third of the half-million former citizens will be living in "the Big Easy."
Many in the news and mainstream leadership of America openly question whether New Orleans will ever recover from the damage. Luckily my prophecy had suffered a near miss for Miami. It survived the unexpectedly strong visitation of Hurricane Wilma at the end of the 2005 Hurricane season, even though the damage across Northern Miami and the central east coast of Florida was extensive. Much of it lies unrepaired.
This is only the end of the beginning.
I wasn't implying in my 1998 prediction that what could destroy New Orleans or Miami was some random disaster. It marks the beginning of an annual ordeal with hurricane disasters lasting for decades. As far back as 1994, in "The Millennium Book of Prophecy" I warned that hurricanes, tornadoes, warmer and rising oceans can take down the American superpower. Terrorists are not the primary danger to the homeland security of this nation.
Global warming can be controlled and America will survive as a great nation if it leads the way in a campaign to reduce fossil fuel emissions from 2006 through 2030 by 60 percent.
However, I predict Americans will not rise to the occasion just yet. More frequent thrashings from the real King of Terror--Hurricanes hyper charged by global warming--may be necessary.
I predict there will be threats to Miami, what's left of New Orleans and other southeastern cities along the US coast at least once or twice ever year for the next 30 years. The current president will continue to shirk the challenge to stop auto and industrial pollution's part in exacerbating the coming era of tropical storms. It will be left to the next president elected in 2008 to begin the long a arduous process that could fulfill a prophecy I logged in 1998:
"The leveling of a major U.S. city by globally warmed storms will galvanize the American people to bring their resources together to fight global warming, as Americans fifty years earlier united to fight Hitler and Japan during World War II. "
"1000 for 2000: Startling Predictions for the New Millennium", p. 18
Sadhu
01-27-2006, 01:53 AM
What of America's economic future in 2006?
Ben Bernanke--Alan Greenspan's successor as Chairman of the Federal Reserve--will become the great Inflator. Be warned. This is the man who said, "The US government has a technology, called a printing press--or, today, its electronic equivalent--that allows it to produce as many US dollars as it wishes at essentially no cost."
The Bush administration that throws money at problems today will print more money--made more worthless--to throw at problems in 2006 when their representative at the Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) becomes the successor to the Federal Reserve Chairman, Alan Greenspan.
America will become an even greater Debtor nation under Bernanke's watch. His four-year tenure will see the US dollar end its domination as the world's premier reserve currency. Russia, China, and Japan will sell off their dollar reserves at a record breaking pace. As early as sometime in the next presidential term, the US "top" dollar might descend to third as a secure global currency.
Now to something a little birdie told me...
Strains of Avian Flu will be discovered in American poultry in 2006. The press will make a huge Donald-duckian freak out about it. Perhaps the White House will fuss and feather it too as a means to inject more fear and distraction from the coming scandals and wars.
Don't be taken in by any of it, unless you run **** fights or don't properly protect yourself as a laborer in the poultry business.
The mutation of Bird Flu into a form spread by human to human contact is not coming for 2006.
There are signs that a successful use of prophecy as an agent of prevention greatly modifies the effects of the Avian Flu when it comes. We have already seen the apocalyptic warnings of seers goad mainstream science and technology to prevent the potential of a computer Millennium Bug shutting down the cyber and electrical grid of the world in 2000.
Bird Flu as a pandemic is coming. However, my "oracle" is happy to report that by the time it arrives in the human sneeze closest to you (no sooner than 2008) the ability may exist to vaccinate all of Europe and North America against it. The longer the Bird Flu delays fluttering down into human kind, the better will be the chances that developing nations will also avert its worst effects. There could come in time a new vaccine regimen that will make a shot of bird flu anti-virus serum one cell at a time, rather than one cumbersome egg at a time in inadequate numbers stored in vast warehouses.
From birds we look to the stars and seek to understand the defining astrological force influencing the new year 2006.
Saturn began its transit of the constellation Leo back in July 2005. The new year will see this symbol of the Grim Reaper for some, the Reality-revealer to others, exert greater effect primarily on the Cancerian born country and president of America.
Saturn will pass through Leo in a square aspect with the sun in Cancer, the ruler of the United States birth chart. It will be a time to question, to rise up, a time for those seeking wisdom to rebel against rigid dogma, be it political or religiously inclined.
Staying the course on any dysfunctional path will lead to harsh karmic realities and crises for the country and its leaders in 2006.
What I said about the latter-half of 2005, in my last New Year prophecy report will be magnified this year (SEE "Saturn's President: 24 December 2004). It will not be a time to hold onto old and habitual ways and resist adapting new ideas to meet the challenges of a new era. A leader or people not heeding Saturn's transit through the next 23 degrees of Leo will face the coming challenges looking backwards. They will become more bellicose rather than diplomatic, more self-righteous and dismissive when criticized. They will seek to end wars in 2006 only to widen them because they will be stubbornly blind to their part, their unconscious contribution, to the problems of the world. They will be closed when they should be open, wax dictatorial when they ought to conciliate.
They will ignore the frustration of the people. They will beat and tear-gas the protesters in the streets. Saturn in Leo dispenses a reality that all Americans must now face and creatively transform: We are a very angry nation that has elected into power a very angry administration. What travails will we face before this anger in nation and leader alike can become true compassion?
There's more time left in G.W. Bush's presidency than JFK had in his entire term. That's a long time in such a fast-paced era as ours. Many TV commentators at the end to 2005, predicted the president had more than enough time to improve his political lot.
I predict he has more time to make his presidency a catastrophe.
I said it before he won the disputed election in Florida 2000 and I still say it. Bush is a disaster in the making for America and the world at large. I hope I'm wrong, because I used to be a Republican. Call me prejudiced perhaps (many do) but let me document the following prediction:
There is no good future for America as long as it remains under the political swindle of the Dumbopublican-Donkeycrat two-party system.
But I digress into hot Saturn-in-Leontine linguistics. The tone of the times to come in 2006 are hot with passion. If words of fire burn to purify illusions then let them erupt and cinder.
The fire of Saturn in Leo burns deep to expose political scandals and there will be many.
The Enron trial is on for 2006 and the trial to seek justice and revenge will reach all the way to the White House.
What of Valery Palme and Spy-Gate? Many of you write asking me if the scandal will go away.
I wonder if this scandal "can" go away for the very reasons many of you voiced. It keeps reflecting on the greater scandal, the baseless decision to go to war in Iraq.
The only thing that can save President Bush and his chief political adviser and brain trust, Carl Rove, from an impeachment crisis in 2006 would be a perception of success in Iraq. In the first few months of this year, White House spin will twirl fast and hard to present an Iraqi political process and Iraqification of its security forces making a great leap forward. The White House will play up the promise to send the first sizable numbers of US troops home.
No spin can save a stubborn illusion with time. I have always said from the beginning of the US occupation of Iraq that the Sunni insurgency is a minor prelude to the real disaster coming: the break up of Iraq into a civil war.
It will either happen in 2006 while we're there in full force building permanent bases outside Iraqi population centers; or, it will happen "after" the bases are finished and occupied by a smaller US garrison in Iraq.
In short, we are not leaving and we will be in the middle of a civil war.
When that civil war erupts, and US forces have to re-invade Iraq, then the shadow of the Palme scandal might loom again over the Bush administration's future. Look to this happening between late March to Summer 2006 or at the end of 2006.
There will be calls for impeachment in 2006, but they will have no political bite unless the Republican Party should lose its majority in the House and Senate to those who can only pull things down and not offer an intelligent alternative to Bush's failed policies.
Impeachment of the president is a danger waiting after 2006 ends.
Then perhaps we will see if the cryptic final line of the two "Dubiya" prophecies of Nostradamus hints to the cause:
As stated in earlier bulletins, Century 6, Quatrain 13 of Nostradamus' prophetic masterpiece from the 1550s may have identified President Bush by his nickname, "Dubiya":
Vn dubieux ne viendra loing du regne,
La plus grand part le voudra soustenir:
Vn Capitole ne voundra point qu'il regne,
Sa grande change ne pourra maintenir.
A doubtful (dubious) one will not come far from the realm,
The greater part will want to support him:
A Capitol, will not want him to rule at all,
His great burden he will not be able to maintain.
If "dubieux" stands for "Dubiya" then President Bush's remaining years in the White House will see his slight majority (the greater part) won in the second term evaporate because he'll make more "dubious" domestic, economic and foreign policy decisions. Those of the Capitol are the Congress--both houses will not want him to remain. This might imply the Democrats will take back the House and Senate in the 2006 elections. It could mean the President's own party will rebel against him. In either case, Bush's will not see his ambitions fulfilled in his remaining years in office. The president and his congress could be deadlocked in a constitutional crisis--one side calling for impeachment, the other saying, "Over my dead body."
Saturn in Leo will see him try to achieve is goals, no matter what cautions cry. And in doing what he thinks is good, he will make things worse, in the Middle East, in Korea, in the American economy and in the domestic life of his people. In 2006, he will inject appointees into the Supreme Court a politicized, intolerant interpretation of the Constitution that will lead to an era of constitutional crisis in America for 20 years.
Nostradamus may resume the prophecy in Century 6 Quatrain 95 hinting why those of the "Capitol" do not want him to finish his second term. It reads:
Par detracteur calumnié à puis nay.
Quand istront faicts enormes & martiaux:
La moindre part dubieuse à l'aisnay,
Et tost au regne seront faicts partiaux.
By the detractor calumny (lodged) against the younger born.
When enormous and warlike deeds will go on:
The least part doubtful for the elder one,
And soon in the kingdom there will be patrician deeds.
G. W. Bush is the "younger born," the successor to his father, the 41st president G. H. W. Bush. The son will endure many more vicious political attacks. He waged a great war against terrorism, with shock and awe he invades and occupies Iraqi. He has an Axis of Evil to destroy and time is running out. Perhaps Iran is next in 2006, then North Korea later?
As I said in my earlier bulletins, history already views the father, the "elder" Bush, as an accomplished unilateralist better able to establish and sustain military and economic alliances. The younger Bush is a unilateralist who in four short years has abandoned treaties and isolated the US from its allies and friends more thoroughly than any modern US president in history. Does this dubious accomplishment earn an outcry for impeachment? The clue is hidden in divining Nostradamus' meaning for "Patrician" in the final line:
...And soon in the kingdom there will be patrician deeds.
The word "partiaux" is a classic Nostradamian double-entendre for the old French "partial"--partisan, but it also means "patrician." A number of you have pointed out in your emails that the Irish name, "Patrick" is derived from the Latin "Patrician."
The special prosecutor investigating the Valery Palme case is "Patrick" Fitzgerald.
Perhaps the Palme case is Bush's Watergate scandal. It may take years before the full weight of investigation and the cover-up of evidence leads, like Nixon, to another president forced to leave office before the end of his term. If the Palme case is Bush's Watergate then we are at the beginning of the fall. The years 2005-2006 are more like 1972-1973 and the hammer of impeachment may not come down on the president until 2007 or 2008.
In the mid-term elections of 2006, we will see the clearest indications yet that the American people are tired of being victims of ideologues of the Left and the Right. You will hear them clamor for a third party, a rebellion of the independent voter. Arguments about the usual themes of our times will continue in the political debate of 2006: the future of the economy and the future of war in Iraq, etc. Add to this a spirited and politically partisan debate about global warming and what to do about it as a nation. The Left will be spineless. They will not promote the draconian measures needed to curtail our fossil fuel use. The Right, especially the religious right, will remain in denial of global warming. The Middle East has its "Islamists." We have our "Christianists" in powerful places. They believe the world is soon going to end in Judgment Day anyway so why not exploit its resources to abandon when the world is preordained to die? The year 2006 will expose more Americans to this insane and cultish stance held by powerful business and political leaders.
Frustration at the polls in November 2006 will give birth in two more years to the next great call for a third political party. It will be an "American" party, whose platform will include finding common ground across the entire American spectrum of political issues. They will promise to work through consensus--not through division--to solve a set of national and economic crises left in the wake of eight years of the Bush Administration.
Sadhu
01-27-2006, 01:56 AM
The Middle East in 2006
The trial of Saddam Hussein in Iraq "has" become a show trial as I predicted. The former dictator in 2006 will successfully promote a myth of defiance that radical Arab movements will admire for decades to come.
In November 2004, I had predicted that if Bush became president America would be in a major Middle Eastern war with Iraq half way through his first term. I said Saddam would soon fall in the invasion, but the US occupation would become a second Vietnam.
Commenting on that prophecy a year ago in December 2004 in a HogueProphecy Bulletin I documented the following observation that is even more pertinent for the year 2006:
"One aspect of my prophecy of four years ago [November 2000] is right on schedule: The war and occupation of Iraq and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's dictatorship 'have' destabilized the Middle East. It would seem Nostradamus' 27-year war of the Third Antichrist has indeed begun. The timing of Saddam's quick fall and quick lynching soon next year gives his dark destiny one last claim to be the 'first to fall' in Nostradamus' Third Antichrist prophecies.
"Consider how the near future could worsen, by design or by chance when Saddam dies. His execution will come in 2005 or 2006 at the latest, just when the US military occupation of Iraq is most likely to collapse and a three-way civil war erupts between Kurds, Sunni and Shia Iraqis. The Middle East begins to sink into a widening chaos. Shortly after Saddam's execution, American forces in Iraq find themselves flanked by terrorists undermining the Saudi Arabian rulers to the West. To the East, Shia dominated Iran, a burgeoning nuclear power, openly finances and arms Shia Iraqis in their fight against Sunnis, Kurds and American occupying troops. In the year that Saddam is executed, or shortly afterwards, tensions between the US and Iran lead to a US-Israeli air strike of Iranian command centers, missile and air bases and nuclear weapon manufacturing sites. Iran pumps thousands of troops and irregulars into Afghanistan and Iraq to fight Americans there. Iranian Shahab and Fateh missiles rain down on US bases around the Persian Gulf, in Bahrain, Qatar, and Kuwait. They fall on the Green Zone in Baghdad. They fall on Israel--a nuclear power with approximately 200 to 400 atomic warheads. When Saddam falls forever, and the war widens, will dreams of Israeli and Palestinian peace be dead? Will Israel strike Iran with her own weapons of mass destruction?
"If all these escalations should transpire and consume the entire Middle Eastern region, the land of biblical Armageddon, in the year or shortly after the year of Saddam Hussein's execution, what then can Nostradamus watchers conclude about the timing?
"Would Saddam Hussein yet become 'Mabus' [the Third Antichrist] the 'first to fall' from which 'shortly after' comes a 'terrible destruction of people and animals' across the Middle East? Was this what Nostradamus saw?"
The year 2006 will find Saddam making the most out of being a false martyr. The name "Saddam" in Arabic means "the one who confronts." Saturn in Leo is Saddam's time. He will exploit his final act on history's stage to the fullest unto his end.
Now a word on the stars and war.
Mundane astrology is another name for the art of predicting world events and the destiny of nations by using star and planetary configurations. This prophetic art cautions us to heed the danger of war erupting whenever Mars is in either in the constellations of Aries (God of War) or in Leo (the God of egomania if in negative aspect). With this in mind, let us examine quickly two astrological prophecies of Nostradamus to see if new war or a widening war in the Middle East could happen in 2006.
Century 1, Quatrain 15 says:
Mars nous menasse par la force bellique,
Septante foys sera le sang espandre:
Auge & ruyne de l'Ecclesiastique,
Et plus ceux qui d'eux rien voudront entendre.
Mars, you menace by the force of war,
Seventy times will he cause blood to be shed:
Increase and ruin for the Clergy,
And more for those who will desire to hear nothing from them.
Here are the possible windows for World War III appearing as a plague of 70 ethnic wars on Earth when the Catholic Church is besieged by secularists and jihadist who do not listen to their teachings. I published the following in 1997 on pp. 79-80 of my book "Nostradamus: The Complete Prophecies":
"In the 21st century I would expect the highest potential for war when Mars enters Aries at the same time Saturn enters its two-year transit of Leo (2005-2007) and again when Mars is in Leo in June-July 2006, and in Aries again at the end of the Saturn transit of Leo in May-June 2007."
I still remain hopeful, as I did in 1997, that the prophecy above is about a time window for war a few decades from now. Back then I finished my dissertation on 1 Q15 with this coda:
"The next time Mars aspects Aries and Leo several times during a Saturn-Leo transit (August 2034-October 2036) is during the final degrees of Neptune's transit of Aries. In my opinion, this is the most dangerous time for a third world war in the next century because this would come when the planet's ecology food and water sustainability reached a critical stress point due to pollution and overpoulation. This final and deadly scenario can be avoided if humanity gets now serious about pollution control and zero population growth."
A more specific astrological prophecy calculating the times of war comes from the right interpretation of Century 4, Quatrain 67 of Nostradamus:
L'an que Saturne & Mars esgaux combust,
L'air fort seiché, longue traiection:
Par feux secrets, d'ardeur grand lieu adust
Peu pluye, vent chault, guerres, incursions.
In the year when Saturn and Mars are equally fiery,
The air is very dry, a long comet:
From hidden fires a great place burns with heat,
Little rain, hot wind, wars and raids.
Let us review what I wrote in 1997 about Saturn and Mars being the triggers for new wars or the escalation of current wars on p. 350 of "Nostradamus: The Complete Prophecies":
"When Saturn and Mars are 'equally fiery' that means they are conjoined in a fire sign, preferably one of those most responsible for wars and raids, Aries or Leo. Many 20th century wars and military offensives parallel this aspect. For example, in September through early November of 1917 Saturn and Mars were in Leo during the climax of several campaigns during the third year of World War I. This time window gave us a view of the Third Battle of Ypres, the first and second battles of Passchendaele on the Western Front, the eleventh Battle of Isonzo and the Battle of Caporetto on the Italian Front. In addition, Allenby's campaign in Palestine against the Turks was reaching its climax.
"In World War II Saturn entered Aries about the time Hitler's forces entered Warsaw in late September 1939 and was equally fiery with Mars in Aries all through the terrible Winter War between the Soviet Union and Finland in 1939-40.
"Mars and Saturn were again together in Leo during the Indian Partition of autumn 1947, when over 10 million people were displaced and forced to wander over the dusty tracks of the dry months of autumn to find new homes in the newly divided countries of India and Pakistan. The two planets passed through Leo exactly during the same time period that the bloody riots and sectarian strife of the partition killed an estimated one million Hindus and Moslems. Mars joined Saturn in Aries at the onset of the Tet Offensive in January and February of 1968, when Viet Cong and North Vietnamese troops made a surprise attack on 30 towns in South Vietnam, including the capital, Saigon, and Hue.
"Mars was in Leo and Saturn in Sagittarius during the great Iranian human wave offensive of early 1987 during the First Gulf War (Iran vs. Iraq). Saturn and Mars were in Aries in April of 1996, when hundreds of katyushka rockets launched by Hizbullah rebels in southern Lebanon unleashed the greatest Israeli air, sea, and land bombardment since their invasion of Lebanon in 1982."
The next "equally fiery" configuration of Mars and Saturn comes in June-July of 2006 when both planets are equally fiery in the sign of Leo.
Ten years ago my contacts to the Israeli Cabalist community told me that in 2006 Israel might face crisis and a major war.
Dr. Louis Turi recently came to a similar conclusion calculating the stars using a medieval astrological discipline most likely practiced by Nostradamus himself. One that marks the significance of aspects with the natal position or transit of the earth's north and south nodes in a chart--otherwise known as the Dragon's Head and Dragon's Tail. In his recently released predictions for the New Year (See http://www.drturi.com/), Dr. Turi explained that the Dragon's head transit into Pisces will spark a Middle Eastern war.
This transit happens in June 2006!
If only level heads in Israel, Iran and the Arab nations would use Saturn in Leo's fire to launch new peace initiatives rather than war. So many astrological factors conspire against a peaceful passage through June-July of 2006 because of the collective unawareness of our leaders and people to the influential forces of Saturn and Mars "equally fiery" in Leo. Ultimatums, dictatorial stubbornness, reactive passions rule the hot days of the next summer. One hopes that they will be a time for peace, but it looks more like a time for war.
Here is the list with the planet and the constellation noted of other times to come when Mars and Saturn are "equally fiery."
Dec 2006, Jan. 2007--Mars (Sagittarius) Saturn (Leo)
May/June 2007--Mars (Aries), Saturn (Leo)
Feb/Mar 2015--Mars (Aries), Saturn (Sagittarius)
Sept/Oct 2016--Both in Sagittarius
Jan-Mar 2017--Mars (Aries), Saturn (Sagittarius)
July-Sept 2017--Mars (Leo), Saturn (Sagittarius)
May-June 2025--Mars (Leo), Saturn (Aries)
April/May 2026--Both in Aries!
Oct/Nov 2026--Mars (Leo), Saturn (Aries)
The final three times show these planets in the strongest aspect for setting the world on fire in wars. May we avert that future now by beginning the process of transforming anger into compassionate deeds.
On this New Year's Eve the great forces of history pause before the first hour for a new and decisive year strikes in human destiny.
Dan Oldenburg, my astrological consultant on a number of my earlier books, reminded me of the following, just a few days ago. He said, "The grand cross in (Tropical) mid-Fixed [signs] is happening right now. Mars in Taurus, Saturn in Leo, Jupiter in Scorpio, Neptune in Aquarius. It's close to the so-called Occult Gates (15 degrees Fixed), so there's a lot of HIDDEN but very powerful stuff going on in all secret societies right now... Big decisions being made regarding direction and emphasis that will reverberate for a long time."
What positive resolutions can an individual make to turn crisis into transformation while living through such a new year as 2006?
I would like to give an answer to all of your most frequently asked questions on this matter. I tenderly invite you to consider only those observations that resonate in your hara-heart.
QUESTION: What do you see next for the coming decades?
AN ANSWER:
A century of evolutionary crisis for the human race. The time has finally come to begin growing. We have not evolved much beyond the physical. Now consciousness must evolve or it will vanish from this earth. We enter the travail of a hundred years. Bear down on the contractions with joy and expectation of the coming birth of a new humanity, rather than dwell upon the pain of that birth process.
QUESTION: It feels like the world is just spiraling out of control...is it?
AN ANSWER:
The old human being is dying. Let him die in peace. Let not the old human drag down into his grave those who want to grow and evolve. He will try. He will not succeed.
QUESTION: Do you have any words of comfort or advice in this time?
AN ANSWER:
Comfort is a sentiment of the old man. Leave it behind. Be challenged and excited, not burdened and fearful, of the coming times. Comfort nourishes our habit to be unconscious and mechanical personalities seeking the fulfillment of false dreams that ever turn into nightmares.
The sleeper must awaken from comfort and from habit. Rise and spread your wings of reality. Bright is the daylight of human reality in consciousness. Bright and blissful is the reality that dispels the shadows of our personalities and their murky "comforting" dreams.
QUESTION: What can we do to stop this dire future and turn it all around?
AN ANSWER:
Flow with the awakening new era of the Aquarian Age. The dying age of Pisces was an era overshadowed by superstition and blind belief. Aquarius is about science and experiencing truth. It will not be an age for "believers" but for "knowers," "experiencers" and spiritual "explorers." Faith will pass away and in its place will be "Trust."
Faith and Trust aren't the same thing. Faith is borrowed from the outside. We are trained to have faith in this or that. Trust, however, is something from within. It is a force, and expression of our consciousness and innate love. It needs no one to be trustworthy of its trust. It can even trust the unknowable. Trust gives wings to the soul's flight through pathless awareness of its being.
QUESTION: So many people are in so much pain...What can I do?
AN ANSWER:
Become a meditator, a practitioner of the spiritual science of Self-Observation. If you wish to end pain and suffering, then look first within and understand the mechanics of your own adopted and programmed pain and suffering. Society in its unconsciousness makes us habituated to being divided and fearful personalities--we wear "persona" (masks)--over the original face of our being.
Meditation techniques are available to help us catch a glimpse of a world that is right here, right now--existing in pure "effect" without a need for a "cause." I can share with you links to the books and meditation techniques of my own teacher, if you but give me permission. These techniques have helped me weather these stormy times with more joy and serenity than I could ever possibly imagine.
I wish to conclude by wishing you all a happy and centered spirit that celebrates the challenges and trials of the new year and years to come.
Always remember...
Out of chaos, stars are born. Out of travail comes a new child. Summer's bloom of summer past must die so that new spring growth flourishes. Seasons of the cosmos are like seasons of the year. Pisces leaves fade and are underfoot in the winter of crisis. We enter that change now. Celebrate the passage as best you can, for dying winter leaves of Pisces passing, seed the flowers of the coming Aquarian "spring."
John Hogue
Rogue Scholar/Author:
Nostradamus: A Life and Myth
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007140517/qid%3D1052350823/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/002-0782031-2192829
Nostradamus: The New Millennium
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007140924/hogueprophecyc0d
Nostradamus: The Complete Prophecies
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/ncomplet.htm
The Last Pope: The Decline and Fall of the Church of Rome
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/lastpop.htm
Messiahs, The Visions and Prophecies for the Second Coming
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/books.htm
Essential Nostradamus: Prophecies for the 21st Century and Beyond
http://www.hogueprophecy.com/essntln.htm
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