Kirlian Photography of the Aura

[Boomer]

These are examples of a photo process called Kirlian Photography to expose the aura, this is done with a Polaroid Camera and another device of which I'm not familiar with.


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1257/1379915143_6092cd5502.jpg?v=0
Photo on the left:
This was taken within a year or two of my encounter with Kundalini and is probably why the energy cloud is so dense. The color red show my predominate chakra at this time was the Root or Base Chakra which is sexual or power like energy as I recall. If you notice the cloud isn't so prevalent or high over my head, I was told I need more minerals in my diet and then it would expand more. The darkened dips into the aura I was told were the number of spirit guides that were with me at the time, the guy told me there were six or seven at the time but I couldn't see that many. Below the chin you'll see sort of a lighter horizontal bar, it was more white than it is now and has since faded a bit in this picture. What that indicates is I was open to channeling at the time, I've since been told I may channel but not until I quit smoking.

Photo on the Right:
This was taken maybe three to four years later. Different chakras are now more prevalent, which ones I don't remember. I know green represents growth and yellow represents happy or exhilaration. What I was looking for when I had this one taken was purple which represents the Crown Chakra. Since about this time on there would be times when I could feel the Crown Chakra wanting to open as it always felt like I had a silver dollar sitting on top of my head when the energy was running through my head.

[Alpha]

These are examples of a photo process called Kirlian Photography to expose the aura, this is done with a Polaroid Camera and another device of which I'm not familiar with.
Photo on the left:
This was taken within a year or two of my encounter with Kundalini and is probably why the energy cloud is so dense. The color red show my predominate chakra at this time was the Root or Base Chakra which is sexual or power like energy as I recall. If you notice the cloud isn't so prevalent or high over my head, I was told I need more minerals in my diet and then it would expand more. The darkened dips into the aura I was told were the number of spirit guides that were with me at the time, the guy told me there were six or seven at the time but I couldn't see that many. Below the chin you'll see sort of a lighter horizontal bar, it was more white than it is now and has since faded a bit in this picture. What that indicates is I was open to channeling at the time, I've since been told I may channel but not until I quit smoking.

Photo on the Right:
This was taken maybe three to four years later. Different chakras are now more prevalent, which ones I don't remember. I know green represents growth and yellow represents happy or exhilaration. What I was looking for when I had this one taken was purple which represents the Crown Chakra. Since about this time on there would be times when I could feel the Crown Chakra wanting to open as it always felt like I had a silver dollar sitting on top of my head when the energy was running through my head.

Boomer, apologies that I missed this when you first posted it.

I don't see the links to the photos :confused: Would love to see them!!

[Project]

I almost built myself a tesla coil in order to do this... however, my understanding of it is that you cannot do it on a polaroid... not sure tho.

Basically you run many many volts through the person, then capture the eletrical dispersion patterns created as the electricity leaves pores etc... Very cool stuff. They do sell kits for this online.

[mapsurfer]

Kirlian Photography is really cool... Somebody mentioned using a Tesla coil
which I thought was pretty creative and could replace the HV/HF generator. Supposedly you can expose the image onto Polaroid film, but I'm not too sure
about this being a real "aura", or simply voltage escaping from the pore of the body. (same thing?) I'm not so sure, there man Walter John Kilner (see
Wiki) who developed a hypothesis that "auric" activity was perhaps Ultraviolet Radiation because it was not effected by magnetic fields. He claimed to have developed Dycyanin filters (blue coal tar extract) which led to the invention of "Kilner Googles". Supposedly these Goggles aided him is seeing electromagnetic radiation outside the normal spectrum of visible light.

Supposedly, the sale of Dycyanin is strictly monitored/restricted (in the US anywayz) and very difficult to obtain. I've never even heard of the substance, but it does exist. Says that because of the scarcity, cost and toxicity of the chemicals used in his experiment, that "cobalt blue" or "purple glass" filters can be used.

Anywayz, I not at all sure that viewing electromagnetic/ultraviolet radiation from the living has any bearing on the Paranormal or Supernatural. Perhaps if you were trying to measure some anomaly it might lend itself, but I'd be a little skeptical of the result. It is still fascinating and downright cool to be able to view "aura" if such a thing really exists. I'm sure if there was any validity to this, there would have been numerous inventions along these lines.
Don't you think?

Regards,

-map

[Judee]

Hi mapsurfer! :wave: Welcome to IW!

Excellent information. :fing02: I guess if nothing else, Kirlian photography shows that we are truly beings of energy, and that everything on this planet in fact has energy on some level or another. In fact, everything in the Universe IS energy. With Kirlian photography, you can see an injured area in/on a person. It's an area where the energy is broken/missing. I found that fascinating.

[VOguy]

Project, I've seen this done, especially when the subject is ungrounded so the both assumes full potential of the HV. The lower the humidity, the higher they can raise the HV and in a darkened room, and a slight time exposure, the result is very remarkable.

BTW, have you ever seen the Lichtenberg figures that are made with the coils and high voltage? These figures (http://www.capturedlightning.com/frames/SpecialLichs.html) are made by shooting incredible amounts of electricity into a dielectric until it breaks through forming a beautiful image. It would be incredible to have a camera to capture the fraction of a second between a piece of virgin lexan and the Lichtenberg figure.

BTW, check out the bottom of the link to see the "shrinking quarter" which is another high voltage trick. :) Again, it would be fun to capture the moment of the transformation!



I almost built myself a tesla coil in order to do this... however, my understanding of it is that you cannot do it on a polaroid... not sure tho.

Basically you run many many volts through the person, then capture the eletrical dispersion patterns created as the electricity leaves pores etc... Very cool stuff. They do sell kits for this online.

[VOguy]

BTW, if you have a moment to look at a 1.5 meg video, check this out (http://www.capturedlightning.com/frames/longarc.htm#Disconnect). Talk about electricity.

Project, would you want to be close up, taking pictures of this? Listen to the audio as well. It's impressive!

[Mcnowhere]

When I was a kid and well into my teens, I saw coloured auras around everybody all the time. I thought everybody else saw them too. I stopped seeing them when I became older. I can see them around people now, but I have to concentrate very hard to bring them in. I don't bother doing it anymore, as its too energy draining and I don't really know what they mean anyhow.

[axl]

thats a good start to a thread Boomer ! infact i would go as far as saying this
" you have just touched the subject that shows the true humen state and the overall fact of how our universe is"
well dont Boomer .

and your right Judee , everything is just pure energy .

i suppose its just a just a virational sate of that energy . ie , the slower the vibration , the more solid it becomes .

and isnt Alpha a sweety ? she loves to get involved .
i have noticed she takes time to answere and get involved with as many threads as posible . so does Judee .

this is the truth.
this subject has been systematicly taken away from the masses for a variaty of excuses . the main one is to departmentalise our minds way from truth .

if you dont know your true nature and your true past , you will never know you true abilities and where you are going . hence most of humanity acts like robots .

[VOguy]

When I was a kid and well into my teens, I saw coloured auras around everybody all the time. I thought everybody else saw them too. I stopped seeing them when I became older. I can see them around people now, but I have to concentrate very hard to bring them in. I don't bother doing it anymore, as its too energy draining and I don't really know what they mean anyhow.

That's the part of the equation that I find most interesting. Why is it at a young age we can see these things, have OBEs, and then when we reach adult life it diminishes?

I recall George saying that it's because we're told not to believe. But honestly, I can't ever recall anyone in my family addressing the subject or speaking about it at any length.

I wonder if it's not more along the line that as our body matures the biological and chemical processes that take place cause the our systems see this gift as something not needed, and like a part of flesh that has been cut, it heals over and goes away.

[Divinorumus]

I highly doubt Kirlian photography has anything to do with any phenomenon called human auras. This Kirlian photography is simply capturing the visible light from an electrical discharge from charged items placed on film. Pretty simple and easily explainable

And, I'm very doubtful of this human auras thing. For our eyes to see it, it would have to be visible light, and thus if one can see such a thing then everyone should be able to see it and any camera should be able to photograph it. As far as I know, there is no way for the human skin to radiate light.

[axl]

Voguy ? its not easy to say it in a nut shell .

but our educaton system is the culprate .
we are systematicly - departmentalised through split data proccessing .

like ?

biology is kept from cosmology in our education system .

scientists know that 'the smaller the partcle' the greater the potental energy !

so why does biology not let on this subject ? because if you can make poeple believe they are only their bodies , they will eventually plant in their subconscious , a negative block command that creates a rute command . the route command is this .

you are youre bodies only !
you are not part of the cosmos !
you will die ! ( never to live enternal )
you are only your bodies , not energies .

if they keep doing this , you will never get to know that the energy in your mind , has more potential energy than the 3d phisical universe around you . this then shuts off that potential in the mind .

leaving us as adults , numb , blind , ignorant , and self obsessed !

then evrything we do becomes departmentalised . we then dragg up our children in an ignorant departmentalise world , who are surrounded bye these adults who d wiered strange departmentalised things.

it is inevitable that any child growing up in that system , will slowly shut them selves off from that ability .

axl out .

[Mcnowhere]

And, I'm very doubtful of this human auras thing. For our eyes to see it, it would have to be visible light, and thus if one can see such a thing then everyone should be able to see it and any camera should be able to photograph it. As far as I know, there is no way for the human skin to radiate light.
I have to disagree here Div. Some people here experience OBE's. Many people don't experience this. As far as I know, there is no way that people can leave their body and go elsewhere. Could be that they are just experiencing a very vivid dream and it just seems real to them. People have all sorts of unexplainable experiences which would be impossible to photograph. You yourself, have mentioned having inside knowledge of future events. Did you get any photos of your experience?

[axl]

hhhm ? point there Mcnowhere !

what ever the truth

Einstein quoted "the e=mc2"

ie all time is relativeto the observer . this mean though , in all cases . so is reality !

like relativity , it all matters on the individuals - point of relativity , there fore , reality depends upon your own point of relativity .

if you believe ghosts exist , they do ! if you believe they dont , they wont !

einsteins theory .

axls theory = who cares ,it all gone boobs up anyway .

[Judee]

As far as I know, there is no way for the human skin to radiate light.

But what if it's a form of energy that we don't understand that we radiate Div? I believe that just because our 'human' eyes don't pick it up, doesn't mean it's not there... And as Mcno has stated, some people are able to see the energy. Edgar Cayce could see it, and helped a great many people with ailments because of it. I think it's possible that the ability for some to see auras comes from an area of the brain that isn't normally utilized. I can see an energy field around even inanimate objects at times. There is so much we don't know or understand about even ourselves...

[Mcnowhere]

I can see an energy field around even inanimate objects at times. There is so much we don't know or understand about even ourselves...
I see energy around objects too Judee. More often than around people. I did do some research regarding auras around people, which explained what the different colours of auras are supposed to mean. They didn't match up to the colours I was seeing around the people who I've seen auras around. For instance, I kept seeing a violet color around a friend of mine. Violet is supposed to be reserved for people of a high spiritual, almost Jesus type person. This person did not fit this description at all. I also saw a very dark aura around another person who I know well. This is supposed to signify evil. There is nothing evil about this person and I have known him for 35 years. So, if there is some significance to auras, I haven't found what it is yet. :shrug:

[Divinorumus]

There is so much we don't know or understand about even ourselves...

We do understand how the eyes work, and if it's visible, then everyone should be able to see it, including cameras, otherwise it is a figment of the imagination/mind. I mean, I've seen auras, but I was tripping on a heavy dose of LSD both times.

I recall reading something about this a long time ago in some magazine and visual auras were pretty much scientifically dispelled to be any kind of actual really visible phenomenon. It was reasonably hypothesized that those that claim to see such things may have some sort of physical aliment in the brain that induces such hallucinations, such as migraines or (developing) brain tumors or other trauma. If I began seeing something that isn't actually there and physically and scientifically impossible, I would definitely seek out medical attention. It could be a sign of something serious that is developing. It could be an early sign of something requiring preventative/corrective medical attention.

Seriously, if you see such things, get yourself checked, you might save yourself from something that could become more serious one day.

[Mcnowhere]

There is so much we don't know or understand about even ourselves...
Well Judee, I guess we need a medical check up to help us figure it all out. :lmao:

[Judee]

We do understand how the eyes work, and if it's visible, then everyone should be able to see it, including cameras, otherwise it is a figment of the imagination/mind. I mean, I've seen auras, but I was tripping on a heavy dose of LSD both times.

I recall reading something about this a long time ago in some magazine and visual auras were pretty much scientifically dispelled to be any kind of actual really visible phenomenon. It was reasonably hypothesized that those that claim to see such things may have some sort of physical aliment in the brain that induces such hallucinations, such as migraines or (developing) brain tumors or other trauma. If I began seeing something that isn't actually there and physically and scientifically impossible, I would definitely seek out medical attention. It could be a sign of something serious that is developing. It could be an early sign of something requiring preventative/corrective medical attention.

Seriously, if you see such things, get yourself checked, you might save yourself from something that could become more serious one day.

I appreciate your concern Div, but I've been seeing whatever it is around living and inanimate things my whole life, and I think if there was a tumor or something, I'd be long gone by now. Guess maybe my brain is just wired differently, and apparently that may be the case for Mcno also. I respectfully disagree with you that just because 'science' can't explain it yet, that it doesn't exist. There are many forms of energy that we cannot see with the naked eye, and yet they exist. Electromagnetic energy that preceeds earthquakes is just one example. 'sokay though. I still loves ya! :D

[Judee]

Well Judee, I guess we need a medical check up to help us figure it all out. :lmao:

Guess we'd better fess up Mcno... We're just plain weird! :D Oh, and I see the energy field around inanimate objects more often than living things too! Plants are a piece of cake for me!

[Divinorumus]

Believe what you want instead, all of you, ha, no skin off my back, but never say I didn't try to warn ya. :banghead:

[MuseNoir]

I don't think seeing auras is a symptom of anything serious... I just think there are a lot of things that we don't understand yet.. and that it could be explained one day in a scientific context.

Although I will say I am distrustful of aura photography and stuff like that, since images are so easy to alter in so many ways.

[Divinorumus]

I don't think seeing auras is a symptom of anything serious...

I don't know, but if I started seeing something others couldn't see or a camera couldn't capture and there seems to be no possible logical explanation for it to be so, I'd be worried. Some time ago I once started seeing stars everywhere that nobody else could see, especially when I stood up. After a doctors check up it was determined I had high blood pressure. A change in my diet resolved it.

[MuseNoir]

Yeah, I can see your point. I guess if I saw certain things (auras) I would have a ton of books at my disposal to help me identify it... if I saw stars and flashes, I would assume it was medical.. which brings up a good question, doesn't it? What makes us guess or assume one way or another?

[Mcnowhere]

I've been seeing energy auras since I was a young child Div. I am now almost a senior citizen. I'm quite sure if this was a medical problem, it would have been identified by now or it would have already killed me. I feel just fine!!

[MuseNoir]

So there you have it.... it just might be some kind of energy that people see... for some people, some of the time! I have always wanted to see auras.. but I never have. I am jealous, McNo!

[Divinorumus]

An aura is the perceptual disturbance experienced by some migraine sufferers before a migraine headache, and the telltale sensation experienced by some people with epilepsy before a seizure. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aura_%28symptom%29) It often manifests as the perception of a strange light or an unpleasant smell.

An aura does not necessitate the onset of either a migraine or a seizure and not everyone who suffers from migraines or seizures will experience auras. Though auras tend to be unpleasant and irritating, they can be beneficial. Most injuries from seizures occur with no warning. Auras allow epileptics time to prevent injury to themselves. The time between the appearance of the aura and the onset of a migraine or seizure can be anything from a few seconds up to an hour. Most people who have auras have the same type of aura every time.

[MuseNoir]

Div, your avatar is cracking me up!

[Judee]

I've been seeing energy auras since I was a young child Div. I am now almost a senior citizen. I'm quite sure if this was a medical problem, it would have been identified by now or it would have already killed me. I feel just fine!!

Ditto Mcno! :veryhappy

[Judee]

An aura is the perceptual disturbance experienced by some migraine sufferers before a migraine headache, and the telltale sensation experienced by some people with epilepsy before a seizure. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aura_%28symptom%29) It often manifests as the perception of a strange light or an unpleasant smell.

An aura does not necessitate the onset of either a migraine or a seizure and not everyone who suffers from migraines or seizures will experience auras. Though auras tend to be unpleasant and irritating, they can be beneficial. Most injuries from seizures occur with no warning. Auras allow epileptics time to prevent injury to themselves. The time between the appearance of the aura and the onset of a migraine or seizure can be anything from a few seconds up to an hour. Most people who have auras have the same type of aura every time.

Never had a migraine or a seizure Div. :dunno: I did have a concussion once when I was about seven years old, but I was seeing auras prior to that...

[axl]

so what ! who cares !

again eistien denotes the following ! E=MC2.

ie that all time is relative to the observer ! this means in all logical conclusions ,
that there is no such thing as a normal person or brain . it means that reality is relative to the observer .

i was seeing reptiles for the best part of my life , and guess what chaps ? i never told any one back then . good job too ! they would have put me in a nut house !

ohhhhh ? look at the forum ! look at all the internet sites close bye ?
now let me see ?

any thing familiar ?

nope my jury is out ?

if you believe in ghosts , you'll see them ! if you believe in reps , you'll see them .

if you dont ? you wont !

thank you einstien !

a man who knew the truth !

reality is relative to the observer !

argueing about whats true, whats real , is about as good as fighting over what colour the cake is , whilst i go in and nick it !

[Divinorumus]

reality is relative to the observer !
That's just another belief that may not be true either, ha.

Anyhow, I'm just curious why humans, upon experiencing some unexplained phenomenon, immediately jump down to possibility #562 on the list of potential explanations instead of applying the Occam's razor philosophy and choosing to believe something more likely instead?

It's like those that have seen a UFO. UFO does not automatically imply little green men in a spaceship from far away, it simply means it's unidentified! Yet, upon seeing an unidentified thing in the sky, or even hearing the letters UFO spoken, immediately and automatically they are running for cover from the invading alien armada, ha.

I don't doubt some folks see auras, I simply believe there is a more likely and more logical explanation than something that's quite difficult to believe possible, such as something mystical/paranormal. I mean, how and why were possibilities #1 through #561 eliminated before they arrived at and believed possibility #562 must be the case? Or were those other possibilities simply discarded without a thought or consideration? Am I making any sense? How was "mystical/paranormal phenomenon" arrived at and other possibilities discarded?

Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.

[axl]

in an infinate universe in infinate time

everything is possible ! because only nothing is impossible !

[axl]

yes Divinorumus ! you do make sense !

but what we believe is relative to our point of relativity !
that can not be negociated !
but you are right , we should iliminate all other possabilities first , it is the only way to have an open educated mind . !

[axl]

Dininorumus ? hello . :fing02:

this is the borg ! :sgrin:

resistance is futile !:banghead:
you will comply !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:argue:
you will be asimulated !:notworthy
freedom is irrelavent ( if i can spell it ! ):notworthy
chioce is irrelavent !:notworthy
death is irelavent !:notworthy
resistance is futile !:banghead:
you will comply:argue:

hello Divinorumus ! nice to see you .:fing02:

[Mcnowhere]

Div, if you check back to an earlier post of mine, you will note that I said I did not know what they were and that the theories of color to them, that I had researched, did not hold true in my experiences with them. I do believe they that they could be energy of some sort, but not necessarily of the paranormal realm.

If you told somebody in the year 1066, that one day there would an energy form that would shed artificial light upon the world (the electric light bulb) they would have sent you for medical tests, or worse, burned you at the stake. :11:

[Divinorumus]

because only nothing is impossible !
Hey, you stole that from me, ha. You're absolutely right though about that ~ Zero is impossible without inferring everything it is not which is everything logically possible.

[axl]

actually Divinorumus , i had hat thought about it a few years ago when i hured it somewhere , not sure where , but it also goes with something i hured on a program called "Red Dwarf" it went something like this .

where ever an opotunity exists , or where a desision can be made , an infinate amount of parrallel realities co-exist , symutaniously occupying the same space and time .

this is why reality is relative to the observer , and also expalains why we can all see the same thing , but we interperate the events differently according to our points of relativity .thus our planet , in one way , is constantly in a state of flux . our realities are parrallel to each other . again i suppose its why our planet is in such a state , because the masses have been bought up in a--------- F.A.R.S. :baby::scratchch
a------------ False--Alternate--Reality--Syndrome.:biglaugh::lmao::lmao::banana::banana::ba nana:

[axl]

i have never hured it put that way though Divinorumus . i am now very curious , tell me more , please .
not being funny , i would love to meantion it in my book ! there , you see , i openly state i would use it , and use it well too . i would aso put in a small side note from where and who'm it came . there is no harm in that . and im not trying to bribe you , all im saying is i suppose is that it is a very worthy thing to adopt as a life philosophy .
your not obliged , you know that ! im just saying its a good life philosophy , and i like it !

[Divinorumus]

If you told somebody in the year 1066, that one day there would an energy form that would shed artificial light upon the world (the electric light bulb) they would have sent you for medical tests, or worse, burned you at the stake. :11:
Yeah, those that thought they knew all the answers might have set me on fire, ha. But those that couldn't say for sure if that were true or not wouldn't. As we progress and learn more there are possibilities that we can eliminate even if we haven't explained a thing yet.

Certainly humans radiate energy, heat and electrical signals. But this visual glowing aura idea just doesn't make any logical or physical sense. Even the description of what an aura looks like doesn't make sense. If we did radiate an aura, why is it just around the outline of the glowing one which is relevant to the position/angle of the observer? If we were radiating something visual, our whole body should be growing. I mean, how does the glowing one know to radiate just around their outline relative to the position of the observer? It just doesn't make any logical sense. And, our eyes are just not sensitive to these other wavelengths. If anything, it has to be a figment of our imagination or some other cause resulting in a visual system disorder.

Although this is not the case as you say with yourself, I'm always disturbed and compelled to argue these unsubstantiated claims and conjectures when I hear some make these leaps from observation to conclusion without considering more likely possibilities, ha. It's a part of my nature ever since I can remember. It's why I frequently get into arguments/debates with the UFO crowd, ha. How do you KNOW it's ET when you refer to it as an unidentified flying object at the same time. I mean, which one is it? Identified or unidentified? UFO or IFO? :banghead:

[Judee]

That's just another belief that may not be true either, ha.

Anyhow, I'm just curious why humans, upon experiencing some unexplained phenomenon, immediately jump down to possibility #562 on the list of potential explanations instead of applying the Occam's razor philosophy and choosing to believe something more likely instead?

It's like those that have seen a UFO. UFO does not automatically imply little green men in a spaceship from far away, it simply means it's unidentified! Yet, upon seeing an unidentified thing in the sky, or even hearing the letters UFO spoken, immediately and automatically they are running for cover from the invading alien armada, ha.

I don't doubt some folks see auras, I simply believe there is a more likely and more logical explanation than something that's quite difficult to believe possible, such as something mystical/paranormal. I mean, how and why were possibilities #1 through #561 eliminated before they arrived at and believed possibility #562 must be the case? Or were those other possibilities simply discarded without a thought or consideration? Am I making any sense? How was "mystical/paranormal phenomenon" arrived at and other possibilities discarded?

Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.

And yet Div, when you partake of a particular plant, you see and meet with an otherworldly 'spirit' that you have said has shown you wondrous things. And so, how can you prove that?

[Alpha]

Great conversation going on in this thread :biggthump

There have been some excellent points being made here on both sides, however my current best theory aligns with Judee, McNo and axl....sorry Div :hug:


this is why reality is relative to the observer , and also expalains why we can all see the same thing , but we interperate the events differently according to our points of relativity .thus our planet , in one way , is constantly in a state of flux . our realities are parrallel to each other .

I agree with you here axl. Let me present it with a slightly different twist.

Our eyes do not really "see" ...they are a vehicle that sends stimuli to the brain to be interpreted, recognized, computed or whatever one wants to deem that.

If our brain, belief or knowledge system ( database) doesn't recognize it, it will not compute or be interpreted or "seen".

This has also been demonstrated 360 with hypnosis. I saw a clip a while ago, just as one example where a man had his daughter right in front of him. The hypnotist told the man under hypnosis that his daughter was not there and held a watch behind her back, where he was not able to see it. The hypnotist then asked the man what he saw, and his response was that he saw a watch...no daughter. This I believe was from of some of Icke's work.

This is an example of the eyes sending a stimulus to the brain, however the brain obviously is not interpreting it or is rejecting it because of a preset reality.

Just because we are unaware of something in this third dimension, don't understand it, are not able to perceive it or it gets kicked out of our brain as we can't compute it or can't measure it yet, to some of the other previous points made here, does not mean that it or whatever doesn't exist.

I have been a migraine sufferer for years, Div and I've never seen anything "unusual" during those times, although I have at others...and I'm not picking on you...I promise ;)

I also think the ability to perceive outside of the conventional third dimensional norm is directly related to the level of consciousness, it's vibration and the infinite vibrations in the universe.

I also see "energy fields" around objects.....this for me works especially well with plants, trees.....not well with people and "auras"

I haven't had my first cup of java yet, so I hope I'm making sense ;)

[Divinorumus]

And yet Div, when you partake of a particular plant, you see and meet with an otherworldly 'spirit' that you have said has shown you wondrous things. And so, how can you prove that?

I'm not doubting the aura experience, just the cause and implication.

[Judee]

You have made perfect sense Alpha!

[axl]

well done Alpha ! why is it you never surprise me with your knowledgable mind , yet always amase me anyway ?
your right Alpha ! our eyes do not see !
it is in the visual cortex , ie the photon (light) analiser that allows us to see anything , and thats only after our reality drive ( reptilian mind ) allows us to see it .

your so right on , there Alpha , we do not see with our eyes , we see with the mind !

our eyes are only photon receivers !

thats star trek talk . hold on a mo , so if , some one has too

go to 10 forward and realine the photon emitters and electron phase conduits ?

are they being told to rewire the lights and wall sockets ?

[VOguy]

Originally Posted by Mcnowhere
Well Judee, I guess we need a medical check up to help us figure it all out.
Guess we'd better fess up Mcno... We're just plain weird! :D Oh, and I see the energy field around inanimate objects more often than living things too! Plants are a piece of cake for me!

That makes three of us.

Should I see if there is a group rate for mental services by the camp doctor?

shhhhhh.... maybe it's THEM that has the problem :)

[MuseNoir]

Thought I would throw this in here.... Alpha's post reminded me of it.

I went to the eye doctor to get new glasses, and my prescription had changed a lot, as it had been about 4 years since I had gone in. We did the eye test, and everything was crystal clear. Then I got my new glasses and could not see very well, got terribly headaches etc. I had them for a couple of weeks with no change. So I went back in and he told me it was too much of a change- that we had to slowly step it up. So they replaced the glasses with a lower prescription and I was fine. Then a year later I went back and we stepped it up again.

The point being that it was the correct prescription for my EYES, but my brain was not having it!!

[Mcnowhere]

The point being that it was the correct prescription for my EYES, but my brain was not having it!!
I wonder if they'll ever gain full knowledge of the power of the brain? I hope not!!

[axl]

your right there Mcnowhere ! because our world is full of religouse demon holding poeple . let alone there are some real bad monsters out there in peoples heads just waiting to come out .
what about all those Steven King books etc . boy we would all be in real do do .

[Judee]

That makes three of us.

Should I see if there is a group rate for mental services by the camp doctor?

shhhhhh.... maybe it's THEM that has the problem :)


:lmao:

[Judee]

your so right on , there Alpha , we do not see with our eyes , we see with the mind !



:35: You're a very wise man axl. There is no doubt that we would be utterly amazed if we knew and understood the full extent of our brains true capabilities!

[axl]

i know the first place i would be , in my own hell !

because fear is a negative energy and easily plugged into .
hopefully a nice warm seat is still there with my name on it . i can then watch my self become stupid , believe im more clever , which will only show how stupid i really can be .:baby:

[AscendedCheop]

:smily012: Hi there!

Here´s an interesting vid about KP!

Kirlian Photography Explanation
... A slightly longer video presentation explaining more about Kirlian Photography, a precursor to Aura Photography. ...
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Kirlian Camera - Eclipse
...here are some tools shown, like a house key or a wrench...
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Kirlian Imaging Reel ....live video!
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Here are now a few pics.....
http://images.google.de/images?gbv=2&ndsp=20&hl=en&newwindow=1&rlz=1B3GGGL_deDE262DE262&q=Kirlian+Photography&start=0&sa=N

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[Alpha]

Interesting....


Russian Kirlian Camera can see Human Soul

A wonder device can see the soul of a dead man pass away… or at least that’s what the inventor claims.

A publication of the popular Russian tabloid Life.ru gives a dramatic account of the experiments of an inventor from St Petersburg, who has created a device able to see human aura.

Accompanied by pictures suspiciously reminiscent of a series of thermal images of a woman at different temperatures, the report claims they are made with a special “gas discharge camera” built by Konstantin Korotkov, a professor at the Research Institute of Physical Culture and State University of Information Technologies, Mechanics and Optics.

The paper goes on to say that the device can register the circumstances of death, differentiating between a victim of a violent crime and a person who died quietly in bed. It also registers the changes in aura presumably made by a strong psychic working on somebody.

Disregarding the glib comparison of the religious term “soul” with the new age “aura”, the claims – they can hardly even be expected to get support in peer-reviewed scientific papers in our opinion – prompted RT to take a little investigation into the wonder device.................

Full Article (http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=7408)