Is Obama - Barry Soetoro Eligible? - Who Is Obama? - Show us the proof!

[Divinorumus]

... and the end sum would not even begin to approach the inferno that would burn our cities to the ground.

Yeah, something like that. If he is ineligible, and he knew it, he would have to be tried and convicted as any spy would have to be. Fraud too.

[Alpha]

Honestly, although I can't watch the vid, I have serious doubts about Obama's legitimacy due to the fact that he refuses to provide the birth certificate. This problem could be resolved easily through...transperancy.

If Obama is found to be foreign born and consequently ineligable to be the POTUS, it would tear this country apart. Combine every race riot America has ever experienced and the end sum would not even begin to approach the inferno that would burn our cities to the ground.

Biker

I hear you Biker. It would be so easy for them to orchestrate "proof" as well, if you catch my drift, yet they won't.

I hope this is not part of the plan....it certainly would be the end of the US as we have known it and you're right, the rioting would be nothing like we have ever seen.....

[earthist]

Perhaps this has been answered before, but I missed it. Please humor me:

Birth Certificate
Claim: A Certification of Live Birth document provided by the
Obama campaign is a forgery.



FALSE


Example: [Collected via e-mail, June 2008]

I read that Obama will not release his birth certificate. Have heard
rumors it's because he is listed as white. Or that because he isn't
a U.S. born citizen.

Origins: In the first half of 2008, a number of rumors swirling
around about presidential candidate Barack Obama coalesced in the
claim that he "refused to produce his birth records" because doing
so would demonstrate some or all of those rumors to be true: that
Barack Obama was "not African," that he was a Muslim with a middle
name of Mohammed, that he wasn't born in the United States at all
(and thus didn't qualify as a native-born citizen), etc.

In any event the rumormongers were likely to be disappointed.
Information about religion and race, when it was collected for birth
records, simply reflected whatever the parents identified themselves
to be; those values weren't officially assigned to the newborn
children as immutable labels. And of course, no infant has any
control over whatever names his parents choose for him.

As things turned out, when the Obama campaign made a copy of his
Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii available on
the Internet in June 2008, it validated none of those rumors: The
certificate shows his full name to be "Barack Hussein Obama II," it
lists his father's race as "African" and his mother's as
"Caucasian," it contains no information about religion, and it
reports his birthplace as being Honolulu, Hawaii.

A number of self-proclaimed experts immediately seized the
opportunity to pronounce the certificate a forgery (even though none
of them had actually seen the
original, just a scanned image of it), picking on such specious
details as minor variations from other Hawaii-issued certificates
and the lack of an embossed seal and signature. (Some forgery
claimants even maintained that the certificate was actually an
altered version of one issued to Barack Obama's half-sister, Maya.)
Aside from the inherent absurdity of such claims (i.e., that a major
party presidential nominee would risk his entire candidacy on a
fraud that could be uncovered simply by a check of state health
records), the supposedly incriminating details don't pan out: the
certificate is consistent with others issued in the same time and
place, and the embossed seal and signature don't show through very
well on the scanned front image made available on the Internet
because they were applied to the back of the original document, not
the front. Those who have actually touched and examined the original
certificate have verified and documented that it bears all the
elements of a valid certificate of live birth.

Moreover, both of Honolulu's major newspapers (the Advertiser and
the Star-Bulletin) published announcements in August 1961
documenting the birth, in Honolulu, of a son to "Mr. and Mrs. Barack
H. Obama" on 4 August 1961:

Last updated: 7 July 2009

Snopes doesn't like copying web pages, so I'm only posting a bit of it here. I tried to post the URL to the actual birth certificate, but it won't open from here. You have to go to Snopes, and click on the link posted in the article (where I've highlighted it).

Please read the actual article, look at the certificate and the other accompanying "proofs" and 'splain to me what the heck you folks are talking about.

From: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

Thanks.

[Delphine]

[Alpha]

Looks like Obama truly is a gifted one....seems he can be born all over the planet at the same time

This just surfaced in the news today.....

Is this really smoking gun of Obama's Kenyan birth?

Attorney files motion for authentication of alleged 1960s certificate from Africa

WASHINGTON – California attorney Orly Taitz, who has filed a number of lawsuits demanding proof of Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president, has released a copy of what purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth and has filed a new motion in U.S. District Court for its authentication.



The document lists Obama's parents as Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Obama, formerly Stanley Ann Dunham, the birth date as Aug. 4, 1961, and the hospital of birth as Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.

Full Article and more photos here

[Delphine]

Hawaii? Kenya?? I wonder how many different ones we can find....

[Judee]

I wonder why his political enemies aren't on this? You'd think at least Mush Shrimpballs would be digging wouldn't you? I don't think there's any fire to go with this smoke, as it would have been proven during the campaign... Even Hillary and hubby couldn't come up with anything

[Alpha]

Looks like this issue is resurrecting itself.....

Sean Hannity: 'Where's the birth certificate?'

Talk-show star defends WND's pursuit of eligibility story


WASHINGTON – Sean Hannity today defended Sarah Palin's recent comments about Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility for the presidency and WND's pursuit of the story.


He said the question about his original, long-form birth certificate has still not been answered.



"What was so wrong in saying that, 'Can we see your birth certificate?' ...



We were told early on that, in fact, somebody else had looked at it and confirmed that it was legitimate. So, I mean, what was wrong with people saying, 'Wait a minute. You know what? In light of the fact of where your, your father came from, et cetera, uh, let's just make sure that this is a legitimate birth certificate'? ... It was not asked by the mainstream media.


It was asked by places like WorldNetDaily, who, I think, were just doing due diligence considering it's a constitutional mandate. ... I think a lot of people were just afraid to ask the question."



Full Article

[VOguy]

The sad fact is; if it is legal, the people saying it isn't won't let it die. And if it is not legal, those saying it is will not let it die. These are times I wish there was a "stifle" button I can press on the TV remote.

Along with news about Tiger.

[Judee]

The sad fact is; if it is legal, the people saying it isn't won't let it die. And if it is not legal, those saying it is will not let it die. These are times I wish there was a "stifle" button I can press on the TV remote.

Along with news about Tiger.

Yes on both counts VO.

[Alpha]

Guess we'll never find the truth about this issue either

Kenyan official: Obama born here

In debate over constitution, minister urges African nation to emulate U.S. inclusion

A Kenyan lawmaker told the nation's parliament last month that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore "not even a native American."



During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution, James Orengo, the country's minister of lands and a member of parliament for the Ugenya constituency, cited America's election of a Kenyan-born president as an example of what can be accomplished when diverse peoples unite:



"If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation," Orengo posited, "how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?"



Orengo held up the U.S. as a country no longer "living in the past," since Americans elected a Kenyan-born president without regard to "ethnic consideration and objectives."



A new strategy has been unveiled to demand answers to Obama's eligibility questions. See how you can help.


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[Judee]

The issue refuses to die doesn't it? It's come down to a case of 'he said, she said'. It's doubtful to me that anything will come of it. Can you imagine the chaos it would cause in the US if it were actually legally proven he was born in Kenya? The only way I see this coming out IF it's true, is if others want the pot stirred big time, in order to create major disruption to the infrastructure of the US. The political system would never recover from that, and this country would never be the same. No, I don't see this becoming a major issue...

[SquidInk]

If he were deemed ineligible, would his signature become invalid?