William Cooper - Was He Crazy? - MJ-12, Secret Govm’t, & UFO's

[maryals]

I'm impressed Wormy! Many years ago my brother started doing the Family Geneology. Geneology was just getting ti be the "in thing". But he wanted more than birth dates and death certificates, he wanted a little story about each Family Member. Well, our most famous was the Aeronautical Genius, Alfred, my dad's younger brother.
P.Herbert Loedding has a bit of fame himself, but we all like to focus on Uncle Al.
When my brother contacted the Personnel Department at Wright Patterson AFB, he was told, and I quote, "No such person exists"!
OK, I'll try to keep it short. Uncle Al never spoke of what he did. We all knew he was pretty high up as a Civilian working for the AirForce because his "step n' fetch it" was a full bird Colonel.
It wasn't untill after his death, 1962 or 63, I forget, that my dad and other family members started to talk about "things".
My oldest brother, now dead of massive heart failure, had Uncle Al's Social Security number, a very good friend in the State Legislature who had a highly placed contact with the Feds.
Forgive me, I do not have a scanner, but some of the following may help:

Under the FIA, Office of Personnel Management, Case # 97-2181-2181

Social Security Number 114-09-0951

Winglet Drogue for Aerial Refueling U.S. Patent No. 3,048,357

I have a copy of an Efficiency Rating, rendered and signed by Miles E. Goll, Civilian Chief, Tech Inteligence Division, Intelligence Dept. Mr Goll praises Mr Loedding for his work as Monitor for "Project Sign". It is dated 5 May 1948.

I have copies of the various forms indicating Mr Loedding's Top Secret Clearance.
There are several forms here,which Uncle Al signed, in which he solemnly swears to support and defend the Constitution, yadda yada yadda (even tho he was still a Civilian).

Notification of personnel action, 12-30-56: re-assignment from Aerodynamic Development Engineer to Aeronautical Research Engineer.

Now, here's the Official Form I like, I am proud of:
War Department, Army Air Forces, Notification of Personnel Action, Materiel Command, Wright Field, Dayton Ohio. Date 4 Feb 1944

Mr Loedding is suspended pending discharge for unsatisfactory service because of employee's unwillingness to cooperate in assigned projects in an effort to effect an early successful conclusion, and unwarranted criticism of branch policies and superiors resulting in dissension and disorder among fellow employees. Signed by Paul W. Bell, Major, Air Corps.

In short, my friends, Uncle Al refused to go along with the "Cover Up" policy!

Chew on this awhile while I scan some more thru my three ring binder...

[gormworm]

Under the FIA, Office of Personnel Management, Case # 97-2181-2181

Social Security Number 114-09-0951

Winglet Drogue for Aerial Refueling U.S. Patent No. 3,048,357

I have a copy of an Efficiency Rating, rendered and signed by Miles E. Goll, Civilian Chief, Tech Inteligence Division, Intelligence Dept. Mr Goll praises Mr Loedding for his work as Monitor for "Project Sign". It is dated 5 May 1948....

A quick Google search for: "PROJECT SIGN"+1948 yielded 3,180 results.

Some of the stuff is very interesting.
But I’m out of time right now.

Feel free to start a new discussion, .. or post more material here.
Other "non-worm" inquiring I W Forum members are very hungry for this stuff.

My role here is to just "get the ball rolling".
It's time for others to "get into the game".

[maryals]

Thank you GormWorm Some of our very interested members are sometimes shy. They think, "Oh, I don't want to horn in on some body else's thread". My Friends, there is no such thing as One Person's Thread here, the exception being, of course, announcements from our Fearless Leaders.
Now, there is a reason why I talk about my Uncle. We have all read the sorts of things GormWorm has shared, in one form or another in one place or another. But, we say, well, "...I never heard of so and so, I've never met anyone who knows so and so...maybe these names and stuff are just all made up..." I don't blame you for thinking that way.

So, I am willing to share even the Social Security Number of my late Uncle. My way of helping Gormworm roll this snowball. Any of our "Agent Scully" types out there now have some more info to investigate, if you choose to do so.
Speaking of which, some of my old friends may remember that I have often described the relationship betwenn RainMaker and me as this, he is "Agent Scully" and I am "Fox Mulder". Makes for some interesting discussions at home!

Thanks Gorm' but I don't have any intention of starting a dedicated "Alfred Loedding" thread, unless other members come up with data or are interested.

Thank You
Mary

[Ninjutsu]

Interesting Thread

--- Ninja

[maryals]

Interesting Thread

--- Ninja

That's all you have to say? Well, it's a start. Thanks

MaryAlice

[Nemo]

Gormy,

Did you ever meet Cooper? I heard him in a small lecture room in '92. I mean, you think, "This is a very paranoid man." And, I didn't see the Zupruder film the way he saw it. I tend to believe people when they look sincere. He claimed to see a "destroyer-sized UFO" come right out of the ocean in front of him when he was on watch. Why would a person lie about something like that? Either a person claiming such a thing is totally out of his gourd, or he is telling the truth.

I know Art Bell hated him. And he had many enemies. But, I've always tended to believe his own personal experiences. Now, I may not come to the exact same conclusions about some things, but he seemed to be honest. And as far as I can tell, he was not out of his mind.

So, he was certainly on to SOMETHING.

[Topper]

Some of what William Cooper wrote is honest truth ... and its playing out
from what I can determine. Someone inside our own counter intelligence has carefully selected global areas for riots today. (ie Australia/NYC) It reminds me of old newspaper clippings and law suits that surrounded Lt. Col. Aquino.

Why in Gods name would our own government turn against us?

[Grim Jim]

I have been out of town all day, what riots are you talking about? Do you have a link?

[Topper]

I have been out of town all day, what riots are you talking about? Do you have a link?

there where riots today in New York and Australia, people who are opposed to Isreal.

One crazy muslim got into a building today to shoot up a temple in downtown Seattle ... saying how much he hated jews.

[Alpha]

Some of what William Cooper wrote is honest truth ... and its playing out
from what I can determine. Someone inside our own counter intelligence has carefully selected global areas for riots today. (ie Australia/NYC) It reminds me of old newspaper clippings and law suits that surrounded Lt. Col. Aquino.

Why in Gods name would our own government turn against us?

Crazy....no I don't think so, yet they made him seem so....

He warrants all the things we can gather here and then make up our own individual mind.

Duration: 1 hr 28 min 23 sec

The Secret Government & UFO's - William Cooper 1989




There are none so blind than those who cannot "see"

More to come.....

[Alpha]

Some of what William Cooper wrote is honest truth ... and its playing out
from what I can determine. Someone inside our own counter intelligence has carefully selected global areas for riots today. (ie Australia/NYC) It reminds me of old newspaper clippings and law suits that surrounded Lt. Col. Aquino.

Why in Gods name would our own government turn against us?

Because Tops...no government either then or now were ever for "us" but for themselves IMO,,made it seem that way for some, however if one looks really close...and really close isn't even necessary...it's as obvious as a tsunami hitting one's backside or head.....

No wonder they took Cooper out.....and the way they did. it..well...that's a huge one

[Alpha]

Behold a Pale Horse

Warning About Illuminati Conspiracy by GREG SZYMANSKI

"MAJESTYTWELVE stated that the first terrorist attack in the United States ... all » would occur in a large city such as New York or Los Angeles. Based upon that statement I accurately predicted that it would occur in New York, and it did when the World Trade Center was bombed.

"MAJESTYTWELVE stated that terrorism would continue until the American People consented to be completely and thoroughly disarmed. The document stated that the second major target would be 'somewhere in the heartland such as Oklahoma City.' The actual target was not named. Since the document was not specific as to the actual target and its location, I did not predict Oklahoma City... but my prediction of continued terrorist attacks including major attacks upon the 'heartland' of America was accurate."

William Cooper, a former military intelligence officer and world renowned lecturer and writer, was killed in a suspicious 2001 police shootout in his Arizona home. Author of the best selling underground book of all time, "Behold A Pale Horse," his top secret intelligence document discoveries provide proof positive the Illuminati intends mass destruction of half the world's population, reaching its diabolical goal in what the author terms 'the age of deception.
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Duration: 4 hours 40 minutes

[Topper]

I suspect those of us with the freedom of will and moral integrity enjoy working for an honest wage unlike most of those jokers in Congress. Stop and think about that ... what job could you see your congressman or woman doing in your home town.

I could see the speaker of the house majority giving me a facial or wax job.