ever wondered why its always you ? you are the ONE !

[axl]

It is what is within your heart, mind, and soul, that either enables or prevents one from achieving this unique ability to lucidly influence and make things happen for the best, or for the worst. It really does work that way.

Since the moment I began to expunge the BAD indoctrinated beliefs from myself, I have found that my ability to bring about good things to happen in my life have increased, exponentially.

Yep , totally agree with that one . An experience i too had . Philosophies act like mind set programs that bind us to the Matrix .All designed for the end result of being a fear slave .

Problem is that we are bought up to manage failure IE
we are only human
well at least i tried ( eeeeeeeeeeeeek ooooeee )

yet how many times do we hear some one say "I succeeded because im only human" ?

none !

Our mind sets play a large roll in keeping us in routines ( rituals ) reptilian life styles .

[Mcnowhere]

I sincerely believe that people come into our lives for a reason, be it negative or positive. Many times, after both my marriages failed, I asked myself "What did I learn from it all"? For years I couldn't figure it out. And then as I got older I realized that I learned a lot about myself from my first marriage and it did not become clear to me until I became much older. I kept asking myself about my second marriage, as it was about as negative for me as it gets. I couldn't think of a thing. And then one day I realized that he was the student and had learned a lot from me. I felt like an old soul every minute of our marriage. It drained me dry. But I knew that he came out the winner in a spiritual sense. I stayed single for 15 years and then I met the most comfortable love of my life. He passed away but that was my reward, as we were spiritual equals and we didn't have to work on a thing...we just were.

So if it appears to the world that we attract the negative and live in a victim like state that nobody can possibly understand, it may be because we or they are the vehicle through which they or we learn.

[Judee]

I sincerely believe that people come into our lives for a reason, be it negative or positive. Many times, after both my marriages failed, I asked myself "What did I learn from it all"? For years I couldn't figure it out. And then as I got older I realized that I learned a lot about myself from my first marriage and it did not become clear to me until I became much older. I kept asking myself about my second marriage, as it was about as negative for me as it gets. I couldn't think of a thing. And then one day I realized that he was the student and had learned a lot from me. I felt like an old soul every minute of our marriage. It drained me dry. But I knew that he came out the winner in a spiritual sense. I stayed single for 15 years and then I met the most comfortable love of my life. He passed away but that was my reward, as we were spiritual equals and we didn't have to work on a thing...we just were.

So if it appears to the world that we attract the negative and live in a victim like state that nobody can possibly understand, it may be because we or they are the vehicle through which they or we learn.

Indeed Mcno, we attract what we need to 'learn', even if 'learning' is to give to another, either in a positive way, or by accepting their negativity. Beautiful story...

[axl]

I sincerely believe that people come into our lives for a reason, be it negative or positive. Many times, after both my marriages failed, I asked myself "What did I learn from it all"? For years I couldn't figure it out. And then as I got older I realized that I learned a lot about myself from my first marriage and it did not become clear to me until I became much older. I kept asking myself about my second marriage, as it was about as negative for me as it gets. I couldn't think of a thing. And then one day I realized that he was the student and had learned a lot from me. I felt like an old soul every minute of our marriage. It drained me dry. But I knew that he came out the winner in a spiritual sense. I stayed single for 15 years and then I met the most comfortable love of my life. He passed away but that was my reward, as we were spiritual equals and we didn't have to work on a thing...we just were.

So if it appears to the world that we attract the negative and live in a victim like state that nobody can possibly understand, it may be because we or they are the vehicle through which they or we learn.

well i have to say that even if this was not true it is definatly a good way to look at it because at the end of every experience if viewed this way , only good things can come of it .

It is definatly a good way to view things there is no doubt about that . Thank you Mcnowehre for that post , it also adds substance to you last one and tends to make any apparent harsh time we have appear not to be there because we deserve it because we might be negative but points to the idea that it is an opotunity to gain knowledge .

thank you for that as it also tends to prove that even though we may not be able to control all of the events that come our way we will be able to control how we deal with them .

thank you for that Mcnowhere .

[Mcnowhere]

well i have to say that even if this was not true it is definatly a good way to look at it because at the end of every experience if viewed this way , only good things can come of it .

Yes axl, like maintaining one's sanity!

[maryals]

Thank you Macnowhere for sharing that It's not easy being "The Teacher" sometimes, especially when we are thrust into that position, not really given a choice.
I'll share something very personal. Just about every time I've had to spend time on The Mental Health Ward of the Hospital, one of my Fellow Patients will thank me for helping them with things I've shared during Group Process. In that kind of situation, especially, it means so much to know that "I am not alone", that other people suffer the same pain, confusion, feelings of isolation.
Hearing things from a Therapist is all well and good, helpful depending on the skills of the Therapist. But it means so much more to talk to someone who has "been there" or who IS "there" and experiencing the same emotional struggles.
So, again, I have little or no control on the Events that put me in the Hospital, but I do have some measure of control over how I react once I am there. Sometimes.

Mary and Bessie

[VOguy]

Axl, sometimes someone invites in something that appears to be good that turns into something bad, and most of the time there is a reason. We may not be conscience to the reason, or not willing to accept it, but there is a reason.

Without getting into the raw details my personal life in the past was hell with death, betrayal, and bimbos. It wasn't until I had that a-ha moment where I realized that the lifestyle I lead was contributing to my misery. When I made that realization, and made a change, it was then that my life turned around.

Yes, a nice woman can meet a real stinker for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it may not be obvious why, but there is a lesson in there. It could be as simple as a close girlfriend had a boyfriend that beat her, and she refused to help. The tables could be turned to teach the lesson. Your example is so broad it's hard to say. But I can tell you that anger, malice, hate, etc are like boomerangs. They always return to whom threw it. Always.

[maryals]

Axl, sometimes someone invites in something that appears to be good that turns into something bad, and most of the time there is a reason. We may not be conscience to the reason, or not willing to accept it, but there is a reason.

But I can tell you that anger, malice, hate, etc are like boomerangs. They always return to whom threw it. Always.

That last line, about the boomerang, has always given me some measure of comfort. What goes around comes around.

Mary and Bessie

[axl]

That last line, about the boomerang, has always given me some measure of comfort. What goes around comes around.

Mary and Bessie

Well this is true to only a small extent , true but not antirely to be a scientific fact that can be said to be 100% .
What i mean is that some people may wish to do good , but the end result could be bad for others but not them self , or to them self but not to others .
what we put about can come about , but that doesnt always mean that what we always receieve is what we've put out . As said just above this post by another person some people are good all their lives and have cronic bad luck and some dont even recognise it yet are still happy with their lot .sometimes people cant control the events coming their way , but they can control how they react to them .

Its not always what we put out that comes back
its not always just Karma
its not always that we create our reality with our perception

the main thing is how our own minds keep us in our own internal prisons whether we believe in Karma or creating realities with our perception .

our own philosophies tend to be an outward expression of our inner self but also can help create stronger walls for those prisons whether we have good or bad luck .

Im not entirely disagreeing with you both as what goes around comes around is a truth , but not the whole entire truth , its just one of the truths .

[VOguy]

I sure hope your right. Otherwise it's a case of "why me?"

[axl]

I sure hope your right. Otherwise it's a case of "why me?"

yeah i can see how it would go round in a circle which is why i vreated this thread because "why me" is a question that asks "why the events come our way" thus asking a question that points towards us with out actually asking if it is us in the 1st place .

hence
Is it / me / you ?
then --------------------WHY ?

is the way .
the following thread explains why questioning things the wrong way can hold us down . asking questions the wrong way can act like "PROGRAMS" within our minds that act like a double helix loop . seeing the thread explains it better .

http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12530