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    Source for discussion posts #6 thru #14:
    http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/badgeman_5.htm

    Footnotes

    134. Interview of Geoffrey Crawley, 11-29-01, p.19, Dale K. Myers Collection [RETURN]
    135. The Men Who Killed Kennedy, "Part 2: Forces of Darkness," British Central Television broadcast, 10/25/88 [RETURN]
    136. Ibid [RETURN]
    137. Interview of Geoffrey Crawley, 11-29-01, p.12, Dale K. Myers Collection [RETURN]
    138. Epipolar mathematics is a subset of projective geometry. This branch of mathematics is used to describe the geometric relationship between two optical systems viewing the same subject and can be used to locate points in space. [RETURN]
    139. [NOTE: Eyewitness Barbara Rowland testified that shortly after the shooting she saw a policeman examining a Coke bottle in the area of the pergola. (6H184, bottom)] [RETURN]
    140. Internet posting by Gary Mack, 4-19-00, alt.conspiracy.jfk; Internet posting by Gary Mack, 8-3-00, alt.conspiracy.jfk [RETURN]
    141. Message board posting by Gary Mack, 7-17-00, www.jfkresearch.com [RETURN]
    142. Ibid [RETURN]
    143. Ibid [RETURN]
    144. Ibid [RETURN]
    145. Ibid [RETURN]
    146. Interview of Marilyn Sitzman by Josiah Thompson, 11-29-66, Zapruder File, Assassination Research Center, Washington D.C. [RETURN]
    147. Ibid [RETURN]
    148. Message board posting by Gary Mack, 7-17-00, www.jfkresearch.com [RETURN]

    Secrets of a Homicide: The JFK Assassination © 1995-2004 Dale K. Myers.

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    Is that a Badge Man behind that Coke bottle?

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    The double movement

    The simple fact is that John F. Kennedy's head did not snap "back and to the left." What the human eye cannot perceive with ease while viewing the Zapruder film is clearly revealed in a frame-by-frame comparison: that between Zapruder frames 312 and 313, the President's head is propelled forward several inches (2.3 inches, according to one study),(2) before strongly snapping backwards, beginning at frame 313 (the first frame in which the results of the bullet strike become visible).

    As seen in the image below, taken from Robert Groden's book, The Killing of a President, the forward movement of the President's head at that time is corroborated by the corresponding frame of a film taken by an eyewitness on the other side of Elm Street, Orville Nix.(3)

    Something has caused the President's head to lurch violently forward between frames 312 and 313 of Abraham Zapruder's film, exposed about one-eighteenth of a second apart. A reasonable hypothesis, under the circumstances, would seem to be that the President was struck in the back of the head by a bullet from the rear.

    If so, what do we make of the violent snap backwards that begins in frame 314, memorialized so vividly by Oliver Stone in JFK?

    Professor Ken Rahn of the University of Rhode Island writes:

    This complex motion can be viewed as containing three components. The first is Mrs. Kennedy's, in which she pulls, no doubt reflexively, away from her husband's exploding head by recoiling backward (while straightening up) and to her left. The second is of Mr. Kennedy's right arm and shoulder, which lift upward as his trunk rotates counterclockwise (leftward) about his hip, while his upper torso is moving backward and to his left. This motion continues until his left arm appears to hit the rear seat in about 319, after which he bounces forward. Third is his head, which moves back steadily from 313 to about 320 or 321 (one or two frames after his torso has begun to move forward), all the while rotating counterclockwise faster than his upper torso, until by about 321 we are given a nearly direct view of the rear of his head, which incidentally shows no evidence of the massive blowout so often claimed from the reports of the Parkland medical personnel. The visible damage is clearly to the right occipitoparietal area of the head, or very roughly in the upper part of the right rear half of the head (just where the autopsy physicians placed it). In no way is the damage centered in the rear of the head [as some conspiracy-oriented researchers claim].

    The key point here is that this complex rearward movement is not compatible with a direct hit of a bullet from the right front. The head does not snap backward rapidly the way it snapped forward, even though it was perfectly free to do so. Rather the head starts moving backward slowly and gains momentum over several frames. There is no cloud of brain matter to the rear as there was to the front. There is no damage to the left hemisphere of his brain, as there would have to be with a hit from the right. There is no cone of tiny fragments going from right to left in the brain, and no exit wound on the left side. No, the rearward motion was of JFK's entire upper torso, with the head just moving along with the neck. It is a vicious recoil of sorts from the exploding right side of his head. Such a movement could have been caused by a mechanical recoil from the particles that exploded frontward out of his head (the so-called "jet effect"), by some sort of neurological reaction (sometimes called a "neuromuscular spasm"), or a combination of both. The available data strongly suggest that it was indeed a combination of effects, whose detailed contributions will probably never be known with certainty.


    For the sake of argument, however, let's assume for a moment that the President's backward movement was the result of a shot from the front. Where would the angle of recoil have placed his assassin?

    From a Coke bottle sitting on top of a wall on the grassy knoll, perhaps?

    A comparison between the Zapruder and Nix films
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    I'm just waiting for the website that explains that the missile fired into the Pentagon on 9-11-2001 was, .. in reality .. a Coke bottle.

    Why did J.F.K.'s head jerk forward and backward as he was being fired at by multiple gunmen firing at him from multiple directions?

    Hmmmmmmm.
    Tough question, that one.

    _*the worm continues to talk to himself ... all alone in the J.F.K. assassination discussion as a tumbleweed blows across the empty Dealy Plaza*_

    The legend of Dorothy Kilgallen is, .. of course, .. the tale that leads to revelations of Jack Kennedy having been murdered because he interfered with projects underway at Area-51 and elsewhere.

    You don't stand on Superman's cape.
    You don't spit into the wind.
    You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger.
    And you don't mess around with the N.W.O. and Area-51.

    :alienship

    I've always wondered if Marilyn Monroe was also a consort to those danged Lizard people ... having allegedly slept around with the Kennedys, the Hollywood Mafia, and other reptiles.

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    Hey worm,I 'm reading every word of it,and as usual,I am in awe of you vast knowledge that you post on various topics

    I have read the rumors that JFK did want to abolish the Federal Reserve as well as some ufo disclosure.Well,the NWO is not about to let the Federal Reserve slip through thier fingers.Talk about a sweet deal,you get the largest economy on Earth to allow you to print,control,distribute their own currency,borrow money,and pay you trillions of dollars in interest.Sweet indeed!Kennedy did also want to end the Vietnam conflict before it escelated,another no no to the NWO.There is big business in war,money to be made by the billions.LBJ put a quick end to both those ideas as soon as he was in office.

    So worm,please continue.I have neither the time or brains to do the kind of research that you do so well.

    CB

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    Hey Worm have you ever met a Conspiracy you didn't like? I am not saying you are right or wrong, I am just not into them.

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    Many thanks for taking an interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Beyond
    I have read the rumors that JFK did want to abolish the Federal Reserve ...
    ... as well as some ufo disclosure. ...
    ... Kennedy did also want to end the Vietnam conflict before it escelated,another no no to the NWO....
    In my book, the biggest motive for an organized crime hit on the president would have been his attorney general: Bobby Kennedy.

    Jack & Bobby's father: Joseph Kennedy had used his influence and power with organized crime families in order to assist his son in getting elected in the first place.

    Once J.F.K. was elected, ... attorney general: Bobby Kennedy prosecuted more organized crime organizations, .. and put more Mafia and Cosa-Nostra leaders in prison than any other attorney general in the history of the United States.

    There is a long historical relationship between the American, Italian, and Russian Mafias and the United States defense department, and intelligence agencies.
    It was the Allied Force's relationship with the Italian and Russian Mafias that provided vital information during World War II.
    It helped to get the German rocket scientists out of Europe, and into the U.S. under operation paper clip.
    It helped Allied prisoners to escape German concentration camps.
    It provided intelligence information that allowed the Allied forces to put an end to Germany's atomic bomb research, and weapons manufacturing.

    Truman and Eisenhower used the Mafia to get things done during the cold war.

    Then Kennedy got elected, .. and everything changed.

    Once Kennedy was gone, ... the American Intelligence Agencies went back to working with the Mob again.
    Drug trafficking, & weapon's smuggling between Indo-China and the west coast of the United States.
    Human slave industry in Viet Nam covered up as acts of war.

    John Lear once had a story posted on the web someplace about a fire fight between a platoon of Americans and a handful of ETs armed with "flash guns" (see Phil Schneider's and Branton's material for detailed information on the nature of "flash guns").

    The only thing obvious about the Kennedy assassination in my book, .. is the cover-up.
    Evidence concealed and destroyed, ... witnesses murdered, ... eyewitness testimony, ballistics, and photographic evidence of an assassin dressed in a Dallas Police officer's uniform explained away as being a Coke bottle.

    There were half a dozen people who ran up to the shooter behind the picket fence on the grassy knoll, ... enraged by what they had seen (Kennedy getting his brains blown out).

    The Badge Man calmly flashed his badge at the angry people, and told them that everything was under control.
    Two secret service agents who were with him flashed their badge I.D.s at the angry people, saying exactly the same thing.

    A few decades later, .. the eye witnesses, .. and their testimony, .. are dead and gone.

    All that remains, in the minds of some people, ... is a Coke bottle.

    Yup.
    The Coke bottle did it!


    LINKS:

    La Cosa Nostra

    http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/9880/

    La Cosa Nostra
    How the Mafia Started, Famous Mafiosi, Voting Results, Mafia Chain, Maifa Chat, Mafia Opinions, Mafia Movies, Mafia Sounds, Mafia Links and more.
    http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill...80/index2.html

    Pizzeria Cosa Nostra Unter den Angebote sind unter anderem sizilianische Speisen zu finden. Dazu auch Spezialweine!!! Täglich geöffnet. außer Montag. ...
    http://www.cosanostra.at/

    La Cosa Nostra
    La Cosa Nostra. In the 1920s ... criminal offences. The 2000 "made members" of La Cosa Nostra belong to 24 La Cosa Nostra families. By ...
    http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/lcn.htm

    Cosa Nostra Lyon
    http://www.cosanostralyon.fr.st/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarius
    Hey Worm have you ever met a Conspiracy you didn't like?
    The difference between quality X-Files genre screenwriting, ... and all of the contrived crap that's out there, ... is quality research performed by the writer who writes the screenplays.

    If you don't like it, ... you don't have to read it.

    The last 2 years of the X-Files were pure, unadulterated garbage, ... simply because no one was properly researching and writing the material for the series any more.
    There was little to no character development going on.
    No new characters that an audience could care about nor identify with.
    Nothing based on real life conspiracies.

    The first 5 or 6 years of the X-Files, however, .. were a totally different story.

    Great research.
    Great character development.
    Stories based (sometimes loosely) on real life urban legends and conspiracy stories.

    The X-Files is gone, ... but the genera continues.

    If there’s going to be any quality writing in this genera of fiction in the future, ... the research must be done.

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    Rhetorical question: ”Who was CKTA, and why have so many sites that link this person to the Grassy Knoll and the shooting of J.F.K. ceased to exist?”

    FULLSIZEforums - View Single Post - The life of CKTA
    ... Posts: 8,775. View my photo gallery Send a message via AIM to Toolman. Quote: ... therioes we have the proof that Ckta was the second gunman in the grassy knowl. ...
    http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/ ...7&postcount=26

    There's bound to be something about CKTA and the Kennedy assassination posted out there some place.....

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    This VIDEO is about an hour and a half and well worth the watch IMO.

    JFK Assassination - The Madeleine Duncan Brown Interview Video

    Description of video:

    The night before the Kennedy assassination, Lyndon Baines Johnson met with Dallas tycoons, FBI moguls and organized crime kingpins - ... all » emerging from the conference to tell his mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown that "those SOB's" would never embarrass him again. It's a jaw-dropping deposition and it's the biggest JFK smoking gun there is - despite the fact that it has received little media attention.

    Before her death on June 22 2002, prolific author and lecturer Robert Gaylon Ross had the opportunity to conduct an 80 minute sit-down interview with Madeleine Duncan Brown and from that lengthy discussion the truth about exactly who was behind the assassination of JFK was exposed.

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    That coke bottle thing is interesting... but my conspiracy mind says "How would you cover up a possible shooter's location assuming you knew it would be captured on film?"

    I personally would leave a coke bottle there (carefully cleaned of fingerprints mind you).

    It just shows, you can't rule anything out... something that 'invalidates' an image, could in fact be a prime piece of evidence in support for it!
    proj·ect
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    2. a large or major undertaking, especially one involving considerable money, personnel, and equipment.
    3. a specific task of investigation, especially in scholarship.
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    **bump** in honor of tonight's show and the anniversary of JFK's demise.

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    Here is a short but well done video on the Illuminati. Watch the JFK segment closely, pause, go back etc. Tell me, is there really some truth so close under our eyes that we all missed it?


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