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    Today I surfed over to the Blackvault dot com to find a new link to more declassified documents by the FBI that covers there distain for the CIA when I come across the name KEAY which was my biological father's CIA/AFSS partner
    on page 6 of this link from 1951.
    http://documents.theblackvault.com/d...24(740148).PDF

    Wrong Keay ... as the name is listed later as V.P. Keay
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    Let's see if I can get this link to open
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1491028/kendall/kendall1957.jpg

    ok it worked for me and this is a photo from 1957

    Now here's another photo from 1944
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1491028/kendall/Kendell.jpg

    Compare em and see if they don't look like the same man.
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    I dunno...it's hard for me to tell....

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    Quote Originally Posted by maryals View Post
    I dunno...it's hard for me to tell....

    Mary and Baby
    That's ok if you can't determine it, cause you'd need the FBI's facial recognition software . . . and if it is it proves that the death certificate signed by Hoyt Vandenberg in Jan of 1952 was for national secruity and not factual.
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    The NSA has released more documents from 1951 as of April of 2010 on the joint agreement between them and the British. Its just amazing to me to see so much is still redacted information for the months of June and July of 1951.
    http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ukusa.shtml
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    This is some of what my father did for the military via the CIA



    Aircraft Control & Warning Group/Western Aircraft Control and Warning Group
    Note: it may be necessary to look at the Group's Squadrons for a complete picture. Some history notations for the Group make it difficult to determine if the entry is for the Group itself or for one of its Squadrons. Some detachment histories are not clear as to what squadron the detachment was attached to, so there are listed under the Group.
    Note: Originally Western Aircraft Control And Warning Group, 412th Army Air Force Base Unit.
    Activated: 21 May 1947 at McChord AFB, Washington
    Subordinate to: 4th Air Force
    Mission: 21 May 1947, To train personnel, maintain and guard Control Centers and Radar Stations, and coordinate an utilize local Night Fighter Squadrons in training of teams and units.
    Subordinate Units: 21 May 1947
    634th Aircraft Control Squadron
    635th Aircraft Control Squadron
    636th Aircraft Control Squadron
    637th Aircraft Control Squadron
    Note: Units were activated with permanent station at McChord Field, Washington. The 636th Aircraft Control and Warning Squadron is temporarily stationed at Hamilton Field, California. The 637th Aircraft Control and Warning Squadron is temporarily stationed at Long Beach Municipal Airport, Long Beach, California.
    Mission: 28 March 1948, To install, operate and maintain Air Defense Net in Seattle, Washington Area, (Operation Easter).
    Note: June 1948, The 505th Aircraft Control and Warning Group supported the 531st Aircraft Control and Warning Group administrative and for training.
    Mission: 29 June 1948, Act as Headquarters Northwestern Air Defense Sector (Provisional) for planning purposes only. Continuous training of the 505th Aircraft Control and Warning Group. Survey the Northwest area with a view towards establishing a permanent air defense system based on the best tactical sites, according to the follow priorities:
    1. Air Defense Direction Center in the Puget Sound area.
    2. Air Defense Direction Center in the Hanford-Pasco area.
    3. Early Warning (System) West of the Cascade Mountains.
    4. Early Warning (System) East of the Cascade Mountains.
    5. Early Warning sites in the Cascades to augment (the above mentioned ADCC's and EW sites) in a Northerly direction.
    Carry out continuous training of the 536th Aircraft Control and Warning Squadron in conjunction with the 325th Fighter Group
    Note: July 1948, Colonel Slagt of the Washington Air National Gurad visited the Group in July, to find where he could place 3 radar units of the AN/TPS-1B type, which could augment and supplement the 505th Group's radar chain in the event of an emergency. He was restricted in siting by the fact that the sets had to be located near large cities for recruiting purposes. Suggested Aberdeen, Port Angeles and Bellingham (Washington), which conformed to Air National Guard two-fold requirements.
    Note: July 1948, Transfer of equipment from the McChord ADCC to Silver Lake was accomplished. McChord ADCC reverted back to a training status.
    Mission: 20 September 1948, Provide continuous training for the 505th Aircraft Control and Warning Group. Maintenance of security in a standby status, and the manning and continued operation of the Air Defense installations in the Northwest area, including the ADCC at Silver Lake (Washington), the ADCC's at Pasco (Washington) and Arlington (Washington); the early warning radar sites at Neah Bay (Washington), Spokane (Washington) and Fort Stevens (Oregon); and the radio relay installations at Bohokus Peak, Blyn Mountain and Capitol Peak (Washington) (AFHRA B077, Pg. 13). Establish, maintain and operate an Air Surveillance system for the defense of the Los Alamos-Sandia area in New Mexico. Install an AN/CPS-5 radar set at Fort Stevens, Oregon, and Moses Lake, Washington, Cape Flattery, Washington, Spokane, Washington. Arrange for a possible installation of an Air National Guard AN/CPS-5 radar set in the vicinity of Bellingham, Washington. Provide continuous training for the detachment of the 637th Aircraft Control and Warning Squadron stationed at Half Moon Bay, California.
    Note: on 27 September 1948, the 505th was relieved of the support of the 531st Aircraft Control and Warning Group.
    Note: 1948, Chain of Command 634th, 635th, 636th and 637 Aircraft Control and Warning Squadrons, and 11th Radar Calibration Squadron, report to 505th Aircraft Control and Warning Group, which reports to Fourth Air Force, Air Defense Command, Continental Air Command, United States Air Force.
    Note: 11 September 1948, all squadrons of the 505th Group were informed that effective 14 September 1948, the hours of operation would be increased to 0700 to 2200 hours daily. Additional personnel were promised to perform this additional duty, but never materialized.
    Note: 2 November 1948, Personnel sent TDY for 90 days to support Project Vittles, was changed to 180 days, and then to Permanent Change of Station (PCS). This required the Group to start all over training recruits right out of basic training to perform the necessary jobs within the Group.
    Note: 6 December 1948, the531st Group was to take control of 505th Group Detachments at Neah Bay, Bohokus Peak and Pacific Beach.
    Note: 9 December 1948, due to the critical gasoline shortage, it became necessary to control the dispatching of all vehicles.
    Note: 22 December 1948, request submitted to move the AN/CPS-4 from Fort Stevens to Moses Lake, and the AN/TPS-10 from Neah Bay to Pacific Beach.
    Subordinate Units: As of 31 December 1948
    634th AC&WS, Silver Lake, Washington
    635th AC&WS, McChord AFB, Washington
    636th AC&WS, Kirkland AFB, New Mexico
    637th AC&WS, McChord AFB, Washington
    11th Radar Calibration Squadron, McChord AFB, Washington
    Notes: 531st AC&W Group attached for administration and training. 505th AC&W Group acted as Headquarters Northwestern Air Defense Sector (Provisional). Responsible for security and maintenance of West Coast Control Centers; Opening, manning and operation of Air Defense Control Center, Everett, Washington; continuous planning for Defense of Los Alamos/Sandia, New Mexico area; and operation and maintenance of McChord Field Terminal of the Fourth Air Force Radio Training Net. Further, Group was charges with preparing for establishment of permanent Air Defense System in Northwest Area. Equipped with AN/CPS-5 Radar System, AN/CPS-1 Radar System, AN/CPS-4 Radar System, AN/CPS-6 Radar System, AN/TPS-1B Radar System, AN/TPS-10A Radar System, AN/APQ-13 Radar System, AN/CPX-2 Radar System, SCR-634 Very High Frequency Direction Finding Radios, and AN/TRC-4 Frequency Modulated Radios, SCR-188 High Frequency and Very High Frequency radios, SCR-573 Radios, SCR-574 Radios, SCR-624 Radios, AN/VRC-1 Frequency Modulated Radios and BN-2 Radios. Equipped with B-25 aircraft utilized in radar calibration. Participated in Moby Dick II Exercise and November Fleet Exercises in the Pacific, 1948, (NOVFLEXPAC-48).
    Subordinate to: 1 January 1949, 62nd Troop Carrier Wing, McChord Air Force Base, Tacoma, Washington.
    Note: 1949, B-25 aircraft described as inadequate for Radar Calibration purposes.
    Note: Unidentified "Flying Disc" sighted over Hanford Works, Richland, Washington
    Reorganized: 1949, under Directorate System.
    Subordinate Units: as of 8 March 1949,
    634th AC&WS, Silver Lake, Washington
    635th AC&WS, Paine Field, Everett, Washinton
    Detachment A, Capital Peak, Washington
    Detachment B, Paine Field, Washington
    Detachment D, Pacific Beach, Washington
    Detachment E, Neah Bay, Washington
    Detachment F, Blyn Mountain, Sequim, Washington
    636th AC&WS, Kirkland AFB, New Mexico
    637th AC&WS, Moses Lake, Air Force Base, Washington
    Detachment G, Half Moon Bay, California
    Detachment H, Spokane, Washington
    Detachment L, Berkeley, California
    626th AC&WS, McChord AFB, Tacoma Washington (for administration and operational training)
    11th Radar Calibration Squadron, McChord AFB, Washington
    Note: 26 April 1949, 626th Squadron Deactivated
    Note: 1 May 1949, Personnel of deactivated 626th Aircraft Control and Warning Squadron transferred to 505th Aircraft Control and Warning Group.
    Relocated: 26 September 1949, Silver Lake, Everett, Washington
    Mission: March 1949, Is responsible for training the 634th, 635th, 637th Aircraft Control and Warning Squadron, and such other Aircraft Control and Warning Units as may be assigned by higher headquarters for training, and to perform efficiently the following specific functions with forces and facilities available:
    a. Provide the ground control necessary for the utilization of a given air space for air defense.
    b. Install, maintain and operate the information and warning service necessary to provide that control.
    c. Coordinate with other governmental agencies in carrying out the above.
    d. Perform such special missions as the Commanding General, Fourth Air Force, may direct.
    Subordinate Units: as of 1949
    634th AC&WS, Silver Lake, Washington
    635th AC&WS, Paine Field, Everett, Washinton
    637th AC&WS, Moses Lake, Air Force Base, Washington
    Note: November 1949, a constant flow of new personnel were being sent to the unit in anticipation of the activation of new squadrons.
    Note: November 1949, A request was made to Fourth Air Force for the acquisition of Fort Stevens, Oregon for the installation of a rdar site. As of this date a definite decision has not been made. (AHFRA 0722 pg 1275)
    Subordinate Units: as of December 1949
    634th AC&WS, Silver Lake, Washington
    635th AC&WS, Paine Field, Everett, Washinton
    636th AC&WS, McChord Air Force Base, Tacoma, Washington
    637th AC&WS, Moses Lake, Air Force Base, Washington
    Note: 8 December 1949, 636th Squadron relieved from assignment from 12th Air Force and reassigned to Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Air Force Base, Hamilton, California.
    Note: December 1949 instructions were issued that all radars be oriented to "True North" versus "Magnetic North."
    Note: End of December1949, two WAFS reported to the Group for duty. Having no authorization for WAFS, and no accomidations for the WAFS, the Group transferred them to the 325th Fighter Wing, Moses Lake Air Force Base, Washington.
    Note: December 1949, Up until December of 1949, the Group was using wholly radar equipment of the transportable type. With the reorganization of the 636th Aircraft Control and Warning Squadron, the group is receiving its first AN/CPS-6B (radar set), a permanently installed type early warning set with built-in height finding equipment. Heretofore, this Group has had to utilize two (2) different sets to accomplish this.
    Relocated: 25 June 1951, McChord AFB, Washington, As per Department of the Air Force Movement Directive.
    Mission: 1 July 1951, To exercise command jurisdiction over assigned squadrons for all administrative and training functions; and to supervise their training in the execution of operational directives and procedures issued by this headquarters (25th Air Division) for the accomplishment of the tactical mission of this command.
    Personnel: July 1951, 24 Officers, 58 Enlisted and 4 Civilians.
    Personnel: August 1951, 24 Officers, 52 Enlisted and 5 Civilians.
    Commanders:
    21 May 1947 - 16 September 1948, Lt. Colonel Arthur R. Kingham
    16 September 1948 - 9 February 1949, Lt. Colonel Peter D. Green
    9 February 1949, Major Joseph O. Ducheane
    23 February 1949, Colonel John E. Bodle
    July 1949, Colonel James R. McWitt
    1951, Lt. Colonel John F. Dudney
    Inactivated: 6 February, 1952
    Equipment:
    1950, AN/CPX-1
    1950, AN/CPX-2
    1950, AN/GPX-3
    April 1949, AN/CPS-1 Serial No. 7, from the 635th AC&W Squadron.
    July 1951 CPS-5D

    Note: 1948, Due to security concerns, Aircraft Control and Warning Detachments were not allowed to use Aircraft Control and Warning on correspondence.

    Headquarters
    Located: 1947, McChord Field, Washington
    Mission: 17 June 1947, The 505th Aircraft Control and Warning Group Headquarters will be responsible for the training of units assigned thereto, and such other Aircraft Control and Warning units as may be assigned to this Air Force for training to perform efficiently with forces and facilities available the following specific functions: a. Provisions for ground control necessary for the utilization of a given air space for defense. b. Installation, maintenance, and operation of information and warning services necessary to provide that control. c. Coordination with other governmental agencies in carring out the above. d. Such special missions as the Commanding General, Fourth Air Force, may direct.
    Note: Personnel were transferred in grade from Squadron A of the 412th AAF Base Unit to Headquarters, 505th Aircraft Control and Warning Group.

    Detachment Q
    Mission: Weather Detachment. Gives service via teletype to the units of the Group. It consists of four (4) airmen attached to the McChord Air Force Base Flight Service, ans is a unit that renders invaluable service both to the flying arm and the radar sections of the division and group.

    Blyn Mountain/Detachment P

    Moon Island
    Note: September 1948, A survey completed on 10 September 1948. A radar site could be set up at the Moon Island Airport at no expense to the government for rent; but no buildings available thereat. Commercial power nearby; water within 3,500 feet of proposed site of AN/TPS-1B. Located 3 miles from Hoquiam, Washington.

    Pacific Beach
    Note: September 1948, A survey of this site was made on 13 and 14 September 1948. Pacific Beach is located 18 miles north of the Grays Harbor entrance, 99 miles from McChord AFB. It was a wartime site of a Naval anti-aircraft training center; abandoned by the Navy. It has a desirable location for an AN/TPS-1B radar set.

    Paine Field
    Note: September 1948, This site considered as a favorable location for the 635th Squadron Headquarters. Such a movement was requested from higher headquarters. Also considered as excellent site for the ADCC presently at Arlington, Washington.
    Equipment:
    December 1948, AN/CPS-5, Construction started 1 December; Operational January 1949.

    Point Brown
    Note: September 1948, Survey completed on 10 September 1948. A former Coast Artillery emplacement was located thereat, and there are existing facilities, including water supply. The site located 23 miles from Hoquiam, 5 miles of which is very poor road.

    Westport
    Note: September 1948, This site was surveyed on 22 July 1948. Located on low, flat, sandy land. A Coast Guard and Radio Compass in the area, but no government land available for a radar site. This location suitable for all types of radar equipment, and would afford coverage in all directions except in the direction of the Olympic Mountains.

    Note: Moon Island, Point Brown, Pacific Beach and Westport were all surveyed for a site to fill the gap between the Fort Stevens and Neah Bay early warning stations. The fact that low flying aircraft could sneak through the Washington coastal radar chain was found in the Moby Dick II maneuver, and the new site was to become an early warning radar site to augment the two mentioned sites. As it later turned out, Pacific Beach was chosen because of its desirability and half-way location between Neah Bay and Fort Stevens.

    Exercises:
    1948
    Moby Dick II - Joint Navy/Air Force Exercise conducted under the provisions of the joint Army/Navy/Air Force Interim Defense Plan, Northwest Sector, Pacific Coastal Frontier. The maneuver utilized existing facilities in defense of the area against an attack of enemy surface and air forces. Poor results due to acute gasoline shortage.
    1949
    Drummer Boy 4 - 14 November 1949, To train Fighter And Aircraft control and Warning Units in Air Defense Operations. To test and evaluate the overall effectiveness of the planned air defense system, organization and procedures. To test the effectiveness of plans for control for identification purposes of military and civil air traffic in the Northwest area. To evaluate the effectiveness of the radar performance deployment, and the communications network.

    Map of 505th Group Units as of 1949

    Radar Coverage as of 1949

    Radar Units of 505th Group as of October 1949


    Aircraft Control & Warning Squadron
    McChord AFB, Washington
    May, 1947
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    Wow! Incredible stuff Topper. Washington state was sure a hotbed. I really appreciate this, so thanks!
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    What's incredible is viewing this video of my neighbor ... whoa I need to thank George Knapp for posting it on C2C
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yytSNQ2ogD4
    Bill was a very lovely and kind man who did everything in his power to protect me during 1998-1999
    Unfortunately he died of cancer after making that video.

    One of the funniest memories of Bill is the evening when I had invited him and a group of others over
    for a get together before one of RCH's conferences in Abq was of him suddenly turning his back
    to everyone on the outside deck dancing furiously as he dropped his trousers because of the fire ants biting him.
    ha ha
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    Here's story that actually prompted my mother into nursing care at a VA Mental Hospital in Tacoma, Washington regarding Downey and Fecteau
    http://www.youtube.com/user/ciagov

    Unfortunately it got her and I involved in MKULTRA and years later got me involved in C2C because of Corso and his past with MIA/POW's
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    I've been contemplating so many angles over the last few months ... in my own words "I've been working it thru my head"
    How is it possible that a Kendall at Udorn use to fly with Markham for Air America?
    http://www.amazon.com/Air-America-CI...8983687&sr=1-8
    Last edited by Topper; 10-18-2011 at 07:23 PM.
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    Ha Ha ... Just had one of those fun mind games happen ... received a phone call with caller ID listing NEW YORK
    with this number 631-999-1569. I pickup to say in my cheery happy voice "Good Morning New York, how may I help you?" The female voice at the other end wasn't prepared for that ... LOL ... When she got her composure under control she asked for my daughter.
    Never once did she give me a reason or call back extension. So I decided to use the auto dial to call back and of course that number doesn't exist or is out of service. The oddest was hearing this woman say "Your in Alaska?"
    DUH you called me.
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    Ten pages to this thread and 60 years later the CIA still hasn't declassified the CAT operations they conducted in Indochina
    from 1950-1959. Here's all they'll admit

    "In 1950 the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) bought the airline to use in clandestine missions to fight communism in Asia. CAT continued to fly scheduled passenger flights while simultaneously using other aircraft in its fleet to fly covert missions. During the Korean War, CAT airlifted thousands of tons of war materials to supply United States military operations. In 1954 CAT aircrews airdropped supplies to the French at Dien Bien Phu in Indochina. Throughout the 1950s CAT flew this fascinating combination of scheduled commercial flights and clandestine missions."
    “It does not require many words to speak the truth.”
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    I just finished researching thru the 1940 census to discover that my biological father and his entire family is not listed.
    Guess the enumerator missed there small farm in Chehalis, Washington that year. Although I was lucky enough to find
    George R. Cambridge listed with his family ... who is that? He's the military man who was threaten his entire career for what he knew about Wayne's last mission. So its my guess that whom ever made sure the data wasn't released for national security.

    I have documents in my position that support Wayne attending school in Chehalis, Washington along with his private pilots license.

    Here's the link to the 1940 census http://www.archives.gov/research/census/1940/
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