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    9/11: Fake Victims?

    [NOTE: MUCH OF THE WORK IN THIS POST IS A PRESENTATION OF RESEARCH DONE BY SIMON SHACK, HOI.POLLOI, AND OTHERS AT THE REALITY SHACK FORUM]



    Operation Northwoods (1962 Military Document) advocates staging terrorist attacks against US targets and then publishing lists of "fake victims" in the newspapers!

    This report states that many of the victims on the memorial lists were fake:
    http://www.septemberclues.info/vicsims.htm

    It argues that:

    -Patterns, words, and "inside jokes" in the "victim names", as well as other strangenesses, indicate that the names of the "victims" were created in a computer.

    -The comments left on the tributes are incredibly phony, and some are made repeatedly by the same mysterious people, who apparently maintained friendships with an amazing amount of unrelated "victims".

    -The photographs of the "victims" are, in many cases, horribly crude fakes. In other cases, a number of photos are made by "morphing" or editing photos of them that are already out there.

    -The different "finalized" memorials that have been released years after-the-fact present completely different numbers. Names are added and taken away.

    Just How Much Of 9/11 Was Fake?
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    Honor Elizabeth Wainio



    Some websites call her "Honor Elizabeth Wainio", while others call her "Elizabeth Wainio". She was supposedly a victim of the crash of United Airlines Flight 93, and there are many memorial websites dedicated to her.

    However, we know, based on the evidence that United Airlines Flight 93 never crashed, and there doesn't appear to be any credible evidence of it's existence:
    http://killtown.911review.org/flight93.html

    How did Wainio find herself on this non-existent plane? According to the official version, she was scheduled for a different flight, which would stop at Denver, Colorado. At the last minute, she switched to a direct flight to San Francisco. She then became one of the "Let's Roll" heroes, making a call to her "stepmother" before her death. The "stepmother" said, according to Newsweek, that she was using someone else's cell phone to make the call. The Airfone records and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, however, state that she used an airfone. Confused with the contradictions? Don't worry -- it's just what happens when a fake story doesn't add up.
    http://web.archive.org/web/200606171...izabeth_Wainio

    Now, let's talk about the photos -- look at the photos above. They are two different photographs, yet she is in the exact same pose and making the exact same face in each of them -- the image of her is the same, but objects have been placed on the cupboard. This was possibly done to add "realism" to the background of the fake photograph. Why do I say "fake photograph"? Well, obviously, one or both (bet both) have a fake background -- and I would say that the girl in them is fake too:



    This is another photograph of Wainio. You'll notice that she seems to have the same expression in every photograph. In fact, the second photograph appears to be a "morph" of the first photos:



    Also, take another look at the "color" photograph -- see the shadow created by the bottle? That shadow is ludicrously fake/phoney.

    Now check out these other photographs of Wainio:



    I'm not even going to comment on how photo-shopped each of these photographs look. They don't bear much resemblance to an authentic photograph of a person. But let's focus in on the fact that she has the exact same expression in every photograph.

    Despite all of the memorials and tribute comments from mysterious people, it would appear that Honor Elizabeth Wainio did not exist, but was a creation of a computer. She was fake, the mysterious Internet "identities" who claimed to know her are fake, and the foundations/memorials set up for her are fake.

    And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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    Now this is a sticky situation. On the CNN memorial, Richard Allen is listed as Richard L. Allen, yet on the Legacy.com memorial, he is listed as Richard D. Allen!

    The photographs show that they're the exact same person, yet they have different last names -- and see that picture of "Richard L. Allen" in Voice Of September memorial? There, he's a completely different man!

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    SEEING DOUBLE

    Below is a wall of photoshop fakes. They are photos of 9/11 victims that can be found on the official, finalized memorial lists/websites.

    One thing you'll frequently notice is that a victim will have two photos, both of which have similar lighting/angles and a similar expression on the victim's face. Ask yourself -- what are the chances that all of these 9/11 victims would be photographed at two different locations at two different time, yet have the same expression, as well as the same photo-angle/lighting, in both cases?

    Once the perps faked one photograph, they morphed/tilted/edited it in order to create a new photograph of the victim. See this technique in action:








    Sometimes, the fakery just got too - well - horrible:


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    Totally DOESN'T Look Like..



    These are two different photographs from two different 'official' memorials, both allegedly of the same man. Yet, it's obvious that those are two different men.

    Here's another one:



    Did Peter Carroll and Andrew Brunn get massive plastic surgery in the years between these photographs, or are their photographs fake?

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    TOTALLY LOOKS LIKE

    Many of the victims bear a STRIKING resemblance to another victim who is completely unrelated to them. This is further evidence that they morphed existing fake faces to create more photographs:



    Sometimes it became painfully obvious. Here's four NYPD victims who supposedly have no relation to one another:



    And behind all of them is this unanalyze-able, generic blue background.

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    JUST HOW SLOPPY CAN IT GET?

    See for yourself.



    Here are some of the WORST photoshop fakes in the victim's "photo pool":
    http://www.septemberclues.info/vicsimripiculous.htm

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    THE OFFICIAL, FINALIZED MEMORIALS JUST CAN'T AGREE WITH ONE ANOTHER!

    September11th Memorial: 3,181
    http://www.sept11thmemorial.com/all_names.asp

    CNN Memorial: 2,985
    http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001...ame/index.html

    FOX Memorial: 2,812
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62779,00.html
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62151,00.html

    La Repubblica: 2,752
    http://www.repubblica.it/2009/09/sez...mbre-2009.html

    America Forever Memorial: 2,467
    http://www.freewebs.com/god_bless_america/page10.htm

    And sometimes, names are missing from or added to the list. Take the Aalyighs, for example:



    All of the other memorials (like CNN) don't list them as victims, but Wall Of Americans does. Simon Shack points out:

    Now, imagine for a minute that your surname is “Aalyigh”. Would you not try contacting (in over 8 years) the ‘offending’ 9/11 memorials and have them correct their listings? Who are the “Aalyigh”s? Or perhaps we should ask : why are the “Aalyigh”s to be found only in selected memorials? Is there indeed anyone called “Aalyigh” on this planet apart from Diana Aalyigh (Die-In-A-Lie?) and Justin Aalyigh (Just- In-A-Lie?). One may be tempted to surmise that some brave whistleblower was trying to tell us some truth about 9/11: “it’s all AALYIGH”.
    http://septemberclues.info/deconstructing.htm

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    Yup, it's all fake. When we visited New York in the Summer of 2001 that Holographic City seemed so real. Everything is a fake, a hologram. Amazing how the fake snow outside my window looks and feels so real.
    Next thing you know Mr 'hut, you'll be convincing us that the snow storms that hit the East this weekend are all a holographic fake perpetrated by CNN and The Weather CHannel.
    There's a maxim that goes something like this, The more complex the conspiracy the more likelyhood of failure. It is not possible to pull off such a huge, complex conspiracy around 9/11. Use your Logic, man.
    Oh, yeah, this very Forum isn't real and I'm not real, Mary and Bessie are just Web Bots making posts here as part of the dis information conspiracy cabal. Alpha is just a Web Bot, we're all just Web Bots designed to confuse people like you.

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    Don't forget, everyday is cat food day in district 9. (wink wink) ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinorumus View Post
    Don't forget, everyday is cat food day in district 9. (wink wink) ....
    YUP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinorumus View Post
    Don't forget, everyday is cat food day in district 9. (wink wink) ....
    They did love that stuff didn't they ? Tins and all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judee View Post
    They did love that stuff didn't they ? Tins and all!
    I gotta see that movie!

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