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    Sun's Recent Behavior Is Odd

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    Solar Scientists Agree That the Sun's Recent Behavior Is Odd, but the Explanation Remains Elusive

    The most recent solar minimum was both long and pronounced. But why?

    By John Matson

    MIAMI—In very rough terms, the sun's activity ebbs and flows in an 11-year cycle, with flares, coronal mass ejections and other energetic phenomena peaking at what is called solar maximum and bottoming out at solar minimum. Sunspots, markers of magnetic activity on the sun's surface, provide a visual proxy to mark the cycle's evolution, appearing in droves at maximum and all but disappearing at minimum. But the behavior of our host star is not as predictable as all that—the most recent solar minimum was surprisingly deep and long, finally bottoming out around late 2008 or so.

    Solar physicists here at the semiannual meeting of the American Astronomical Society this week offered a number of mechanisms to shed light on what has been happening on the sun of late, but conceded that the final answer—or more likely answers—remains opaque. Beyond scientific understanding, motivations for better solar weather forecasts include hopes to use them to safeguard against electrical grid disruptions, damage to Earth-orbiting satellites and threats to the health of space travelers posed by solar radiation flare-ups.

    One researcher has looked for clues to solar weather in the meridional flow, which moves from the solar equator toward the poles, and which seems to change speed during the shifting solar cycle. Another looked at the solar "jet stream," a slow current that originates at solar mid-latitudes and pushes in a bifurcated stream toward both the equator and the poles. Another scientist examined the inner workings of the sun through the oscillation of sound waves propagating through the solar interior; yet another looked at magnetic maps to chart the shifting flux across the sun.

    "I think we're almost in violent agreement that this is an interesting minimum," said David Hathaway of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. By several measures—geomagnetic activity, weakness of polar magnetic fields, flagging solar deflection of galactic cosmic rays—the minimum was the deepest on record, Hathaway said, although some of those records contain just a few cycles. Hathaway focused on shifting speeds of the meridional flow, finding that the flow was anomalously fast at the most recent minimum. But, speaking of heliophysics forecasting techniques in general, he cautioned against leaping to any conclusions based on small-number statistics. "We need to be careful about extending what we've seen in one or two cycles to all of them," he said.

    Frank Hill of the National Solar Observatory (NSO) instead examined the jet stream, a periodic east–west flow of material that corresponds with the onset and end of the solar cycle. With helioseismology data, which track acoustic oscillations on the sun, researchers can check in on the progress of the jet stream at depths of roughly 1,000 kilometers, potentially allowing for better forecasts of the timing of the solar cycle. But it is "still too early to tell" if the jet stream can robustly predict solar activity, Hill acknowledged, noting that the stream could be a cause or an effect of the cycle.

    Hill's NSO colleague Sushanta Tripathy also turned to helioseismology to investigate the recent solar minimum, finding that in acoustic oscillations deep within the sun there were in fact two separate minima—one in late 2007 that did not correspond to the sunspot minimum, and one around late 2008 that did. In prior data, from 1995 to 2007, the frequency shifts in the oscillations had matched up well with the sunspot counts. And at shallower depths within the sun, the seismic and sunspot activity were in phase for the most recent solar minimum as well. All in all, the cycle was definitely unusual, Tripathy said.

    Julia Saba of SP Systems, Inc., and the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., had yet another approach, turning to magnetic maps to track regional differences on the sun. Her approach accurately forecast the timing of the 2008 solar minimum 18 months in advance, she said, but acknowledged that the forecast had been revised from an earlier prediction. Based on current data, Saba said, the next solar cycle looks like it will be weak and prolonged. But that could all change—her predictions assume "that the sun doesn't change on us again."

    After hearing his colleagues' various approaches to investigating the sun's behavior, Hill took stock of a field with many open questions. "My main impression of all this is I'm gratified to see that we all agree that this is an interesting minimum," Hill said. "What's not so gratifying is we have no clue why any of these effects are happening."

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    THE SUN -- Friend Or Foe? What's Coming - The Effects on Earth - Current Happenings

    I believe that the sun will have an ever increasing affect on our tiny little blue dot and all life on it in the future, so I am starting this thread. And to start this topic...

    Sun Safety: Save Your Skin (video)
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    In this Consumer Update video, FDA Dermatologist Jane Liedtka, M.D., and FDA Ophthalmologist Wiley Chambers, M.D., provide tips on protecting yourself from harmful exposure to the sun’s UV rays—including avoiding exposure, applying sunscreens, and wearing proper eye protection.

    http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm214669.htm
    Keep your eyes to the skies, and let your instinct be your guide...
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    About 10 years ago the sun began appearing more white than yellowish. Much brighter. Also the moon, reflecting the sun's light, has been looking brighter each year.
    Thanks for starting this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maryals View Post
    About 10 years ago the sun began appearing more white than yellowish. Much brighter. Also the moon, reflecting the sun's light, has been looking brighter each year.
    Thanks for starting this thread!

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    My dear Miss Mary, you are wise and attuned to 'nature'... I wish everyone were so. I truly believe this thread will be more than important in the very near future.
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    Very true, Mary.

    I noticed this in the late 90's.

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    As the Sun Awakens, NASA Keeps a Wary Eye on Space Weather (w/ Video)
    June 9th, 2010




    Many technologies of the 21st century are vulnerable to solar storms.


    Earth and space are about to come into contact in a way that's new to human history. To make preparations, authorities in Washington DC are holding a meeting: The Space Weather Enterprise Forum at the National Press Club on June 8th.

    Richard Fisher, head of NASA's Heliophysics Division, explains what it's all about:

    "The sun is waking up from a deep slumber, and in the next few years we expect to see much higher levels of solar activity. At the same time, our technological society has developed an unprecedented sensitivity to solar storms. The intersection of these two issues is what we're getting together to discuss."
    The National Academy of Sciences framed the problem two years ago in a landmark report entitled "Severe Space Weather Events—Societal and Economic Impacts." It noted how people of the 21st-century rely on high-tech systems for the basics of daily life. Smart power grids, GPS navigation, air travel, financial services and emergency radio communications can all be knocked out by intense solar activity. A century-class solar storm, the Academy warned, could cause twenty times more economic damage than Hurricane Katrina.

    Much of the damage can be mitigated if managers know a storm is coming. Putting satellites in 'safe mode' and disconnecting transformers can protect these assets from damaging electrical surges. Preventative action, however, requires accurate forecasting—a job that has been assigned to NOAA.





    "Space weather forecasting is still in its infancy, but we're making rapid progress," says Thomas Bogdan, director of NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center in Boulder, Colorado.

    Bogdan sees the collaboration between NASA and NOAA as key. "NASA's fleet of heliophysics research spacecraft provides us with up-to-the-minute information about what's happening on the sun. They are an important complement to our own GOES and POES satellites, which focus more on the near-Earth environment."

    Among dozens of NASA spacecraft, he notes three of special significance: STEREO, SDO and ACE.

    STEREO (Solar Terrestrial Relations Observatory) is a pair of spacecraft stationed on opposite sides of the sun with a combined view of 90% of the stellar surface. In the past, active sunspots could hide out on the sun's farside, invisible from Earth, and then suddenly emerge over the limb spitting flares and CMEs. STEREO makes such surprise attacks impossible.

    SDO (the Solar Dynamics Observatory) is the newest addition to NASA's fleet. Just launched in February, it is able to photograph solar active regions with unprecedented spectral, temporal and spatial resolution. Researchers can now study eruptions in exquisite detail, raising hopes that they will learn how flares work and how to predict them. SDO also monitors the sun's extreme UV output, which controls the response of Earth's atmosphere to solar variability.

    Bogdan's favorite NASA satellite, however, is an old one: the Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE) launched in 1997. "Where would we be without it?" he wonders. ACE is a solar wind monitor. It sits upstream between the sun and Earth, detecting solar wind gusts, billion-ton CMEs, and radiation storms as much as 30 minutes before they hit our planet.

    "ACE is our best early warning system," says Bogdan. "It allows us to notify utility and satellite operators when a storm is about to hit.”

    NASA spacecraft were not originally intended for operational forecasting—"but it turns out that our data have practical economic and civil uses," notes Fisher. "This is a good example of space science supporting modern society."

    2010 marks the 4th year in a row that policymakers, researchers, legislators and reporters have gathered in Washington DC to share ideas about space weather. This year, forum organizers plan to sharpen the focus on critical infrastructure protection. The ultimate goal is to improve the nation’s ability to prepare, mitigate, and respond to potentially devastating space weather events.

    "I believe we're on the threshold of a new era in which space weather can be as influential in our daily lives as ordinary terrestrial weather." Fisher concludes. "We take this very seriously indeed."
    More information: For more information about the meeting, please visit the Space Weather Enterprise Forum home page at http://www.nswp.gov/swef/swef_2010.html


    Source: Science@NASA


    "As the Sun Awakens, NASA Keeps a Wary Eye on Space Weather (w/ Video)." June 9th, 2010. www.physorg.com/news195297437.html
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    The Dangerous Sun

    More Active Sun Means Nasty

    Solar Storms Ahead

    Wed Jun 9, 6:00 pm ET

    The sun is about to get a lot more active, which could have ill effects on [COLOR=#366388 ! important][COLOR=#366388 ! important]Earth[/COLOR][/COLOR]. So to prepare, top sun scientists met Tuesday to discuss the best ways to protect Earth's satellites and other vital systems from the coming solar storms.


    Solar storms occur when sunspots on our star erupt and spew out flumes of [COLOR=#366388 ! important][COLOR=#366388 ! important]charged [COLOR=#366388 ! important]particles[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] that can damage power systems. The sun's activity typically follows an 11-year cycle, and it looks to be coming out of a slump and gearing up for an active period.


    "The sun is waking up from a deep slumber, and in the next few years we expect to see much higher levels of solar activity," said Richard Fisher, head of NASA's Heliophysics Division. "At the same time, our technological society has developed an [COLOR=#366388 ! important][COLOR=#366388 ! important]unprecedented [COLOR=#366388 ! important]sensitivity[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] to solar storms. The intersection of these two issues is what we're getting together to discuss."


    Fisher and other experts met at the Space Weather Enterprise Forum, which took place in Washington, D.C., at the National Press Club.


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    have you experienced how the sun burns your skin before you feel the burn...its hard to describe....but its burning people who never got sun burns before...i get burned from about 10 mins in the sun...its almost like it just stings...cant properly describe it...weird sun stuff...been that way since mid 90's...

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    Like others here, I have noticed the sun looks different than it did when I was younger.

    But all these predictions are based on a very limited understanding IMO. I don't think scientists understand the sun enough to make accurate predictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrite View Post
    have you experienced how the sun burns your skin before you feel the burn...its hard to describe....but its burning people who never got sun burns before...i get burned from about 10 mins in the sun...its almost like it just stings...cant properly describe it...weird sun stuff...been that way since mid 90's...
    That is a totally accurate description pyrite! It almost feels like you're sticking an arm into the oven at times -- it feels like an actual 'fire burn'.

    The sun is quite active right now also, thus the quakes...

    Space Weather News for June 12, 2010
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    ACTIVE SUNSPOT: A new sunspot has popped up and it is crackling with solar flares. Today, AR1081 has unleashed a series of M- and C-class eruptions plus at least one strong shortwave radio burst detected by amateur radio astronomers on the Pacific side of Earth. High resolution movies of the flares and an audio recording of the solar radio burst may be found at http://spaceweather.com.
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    Hey VO, do you or your HAM friends pick up those radio waves?
    About the sunburn....I have very fair skin, so all my life I would feel that "prickle" before the skin color changed. If I waited till pink actually appeared before covering up or going inside I would be "boiled lobster red" a few hours later.
    As something is happening....stronger sun rays....weaker Ozone......take my advice about wearing sunscreen, keeping covered up if only in light weight cotton gauze. When you feel that "prickle" cover up or go inside, don't wait for a change in color. If you do wait it will be too late and sunburn is hellish. It can also make you physically ill if you get too much sun.

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    Delphs, do you mind if I ask a Moderator to move this over here http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/s...ht=#post325134 It's all basically the same topic.
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    No, that's fine. I really didn't know where to put it.


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