Chief Big Beard
If you want to kill someone there are many easier ways than a bomb. Amazing how all these guys are stupid enough to buy chemicals or triggers or something and be easy to trace huh? Gives us a warm feeling that all the surveillance this "free" country submits to is working.Originally Posted by Judee
proj·ect
1. something that is contemplated, devised, or planned; plan; scheme.
2. a large or major undertaking, especially one involving considerable money, personnel, and equipment.
3. a specific task of investigation, especially in scholarship.
4. to propose, contemplate, or plan.
5. to throw, cast, or impel forward or onward.
6. to set forth or calculate (some future thing).
7. to extend or protrude beyond something else.
8. to use one's voice forcefully enough to be heard at a distance, as in a theater.
9. to produce a clear impression of one's thoughts, personality, role, etc.
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Master
Look,,,,,I"m about as conspiracy oriented as they get, I do believe 9-11 was a inside job,,,I believe we are being visited by extraterestrials, I think there are subturanean humanoid cultures on the planet, and I believe in ghosts and paranormal activity.
But, what I don't believe, is that there is some kind of globalist movement behind the uprisings in the middle east right now.
If anything, you all have it backwards.
The globalists have been in control of the middle east, and they are now losing it.
America and the West have through bribery, assasination and threat of assasination kept puppet leaders in place in this region doing the bidding of the west, regardless of the situation in regards to those living there. The middle east citizens.
And now those citizens are saying they have had enough.
Master
A look at the anti-government protests in eight Arab countries Friday:
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LIBYA
Militias loyal to ruler Moammar Gadhafi open fire on thousands of protesters in the Libyan capital of Tripoli. One man says gunmen on rooftops and in the streets open fire with automatic weapons and even an anti-aircraft gun. Witnesses report at least four killed, while other say the toll is higher. In the evening, Gadhafi appears before a crowd of more than 1,000 supporters in Tripoli and urges them to fight protesters and "defend the nation." Tripoli is the center of the eroding territory that Gadhafi still controls. The uprising that began Feb. 15 has swept over nearly the entire eastern half of the country, breaking cities there out of his regime's hold.
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IRAQ
Thousands march on government buildings and clash with security forces in cities across Iraq. Twelve people are killed in the largest and most violent anti-government protests in the country since political unrest began spreading in the Arab world. In the capital of Baghdad, demonstrators knock down blast walls and throw rocks. The protests are fueled by anger over corruption, chronic unemployment and shoddy public services from the Shiite-dominated government.
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YEMEN
Security forces open fire on thousands of demonstrators in the southern port city of Aden, wounding at least 19 people, in the latest confrontation with crowds pressing for the U.S.-backed president's ouster. Tens of thousands of protesters march in different parts of the country. President Ali Abdullah Saleh has promised to step down after national elections in 2013, but the demonstrators want him out now.
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EGYPT
Tens of thousands jam Cairo's main square. They are trying to keep up pressure on Egypt's military rulers to carry out reforms and call for the dismissal of holdovers from the regime of ousted President Hosni Mubarak. Demonstrators say they are worried the army is not moving quickly enough on reforms, including repealing emergency laws and releasing political prisoners.
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BAHRAIN
Tens of thousands fill the central square of Bahrain's capital, Manama. Protesters have taken to the streets every day for the past two weeks, asking for sweeping political concessions from the ruling monarch. Security forces make no attempt to halt the marches.
Bahrain is the first Gulf state to be thrown into turmoil by the Arab world's wave of change. The unrest is highly significant for Washington because Bahrain sits at the center of its military framework in the region.
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JORDAN
About 4,000 protesters rally in the capital, Amman, the largest crowd yet in two months of unrest. The leader of Jordan's largest opposition group warns that patience is running out with what he called the government's slow steps toward reform. King Abdullah II, a key U.S. ally in the Middle East, has so far failed to quiet the calls for sweeping political change. The protesters want a bigger say in politics and for the prime minister to be chosen through elections, not by the king.
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TUNISIA
Police in Tunis fired warning shots and tear gas to disperse thousands of anti-government protesters in the center of the capital. Demonstrators massed in front of the Interior Ministry to call for the ouster of the interim government that has run Tunisia since strongman ruler Zine El Abidine Ben Ali was toppled Jan. 14 and fled into exile. Tunisia has been relatively calm since Ben Ali's ouster.
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SAUDI ARABIA About 300 Shiites protest against the Sunni-led government in a march in the east of the country. They disperse peacefully under the close watch of Saudi security forces. The kingdom had been largely quiet, and its ruler earlier this week promised a massive package of economic aid, including interest-free home loans, in hopes of forestalling unrest.
I think the people might be thinking they are doing that. What they dont realize is that how the PTB win, is that they own both sides. The CIA and US government has funded many unrests all over the earth to set up situations where they get what they want....this IMO is no different.
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Chief Big Beard
Let's say that a change of government is deemed as necessary for the oil availability of the US at some major thinktank. Let that scenario play out. The CIA is renowned for inciting revolt. How do you do that nowadays? Well, you need anonymous inciters (bloggers) and you need organization and a small number of catalyst activists (twitter). This same scenario has been played out by the CIA in numerous documented situations, hell, it is what their own operations manual says to do. Obviously there are real people in the streets, the question is why are they in the streets now. What gave them that push? Coincidences need not apply. Recommend "Legacy of Ashes" if you have trouble stretching your mind to allow for this, it will take you alot further than my lame positing. The reality is far worse.what I don't believe, is that there is some kind of globalist movement behind the uprisings in the middle east right now
proj·ect
1. something that is contemplated, devised, or planned; plan; scheme.
2. a large or major undertaking, especially one involving considerable money, personnel, and equipment.
3. a specific task of investigation, especially in scholarship.
4. to propose, contemplate, or plan.
5. to throw, cast, or impel forward or onward.
6. to set forth or calculate (some future thing).
7. to extend or protrude beyond something else.
8. to use one's voice forcefully enough to be heard at a distance, as in a theater.
9. to produce a clear impression of one's thoughts, personality, role, etc.
Master
There can only be one objective if that is the case. And that would be WWIII, and the depopulation of the planet.
As much as on the surface, this is an absolutely bad idea, it may be a nessasary evil in terms of the planet maintaining equilibrium.
I have always been rather alone in my feeling that the earth can not sustain the human population it has. I remember swearing I would never have a kid as early as 13. As callous as this may sound I have always valued ecological life, trees are like holy beings to me.
If the survival of the species is in the balance, don't the ends justify the means?
If you had a time machine, and could see two possible outcomes in one hundred years,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,wouldn't you do what it took to avert extinction, of not just the human race, but the planet's biodiversity?
Chief Big Beard
as much as I agree with you about trees, how sure are you of your hypothesis about human population? I have studied this problem and it is certainly not clear-cut in my mind. If you could cut the human population by one half would you?
Recommend reading "The white plague" by Frank Herbert http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Plague
proj·ect
1. something that is contemplated, devised, or planned; plan; scheme.
2. a large or major undertaking, especially one involving considerable money, personnel, and equipment.
3. a specific task of investigation, especially in scholarship.
4. to propose, contemplate, or plan.
5. to throw, cast, or impel forward or onward.
6. to set forth or calculate (some future thing).
7. to extend or protrude beyond something else.
8. to use one's voice forcefully enough to be heard at a distance, as in a theater.
9. to produce a clear impression of one's thoughts, personality, role, etc.
Master
I don't have any problem stretching my mind to accomodate a "procedure", but, what I'm having a problem with is the "why".
The CIA have their "yes" men in place. The globalists if you will, have the middle east bought,,,,to the point that their own people have no say in the government.
This clip from the movie Syriana talks about how the Emir of a oil producing country wants to sell to the highest bidder for once, in this case the chinese, it then shows how the CIA groom the Emir's brother with bribes and promises of rulership and then the CIA goes and kills the Emir who dared consider selling to the highest bidder.
This small example is typical in the middle east.
It is why the US is slurping up all the gasoline, and, it is how it is kept so cheap, and make no mistake, gas even at $3.50 is cheap.
The current destabalization in the middle east is going to stop oil production.
It is going to put the government of those countries into the hands of western hating Islamic fundamentalists, who will bleed the west for every penny they can.
Oil is going to go up to $5-$6 bucks a gallon by the end of the year, and it may never come back down again.
Anyway you slice it, the Globalists are going to lose control and money, big time.
I'm just saying,,,your end game has to have something bigger in mind than thisa change of government is deemed as necessary for the oil availability of the US at some major thinktank
Master
Dude, I love Frank Herbert,,,,I consider his "Dune" series, to be the best science fiction series of all time.
I've read three of his other novels outside the Dune series,,,,one was about a space ship that becomes omniscient(The Lazerus Effect),,,,another was about an Indian following a series of omens and sacrificing someone(?),,,,,,,and another was about a plague that killed all the women on the earth,,,,,,,I'm thinking this last one was "the white plague",,,bummer of a novel, I didn't dig it, but I was young at the time of reading it.
And my hypothesis about the population of the earth is hardly mine.
Think of the landfill contributions of just 1 American,,,a year,,,,a lifetime.
Think of the ramifications behind a years worth of food, the land damage to procure beef, the deforestation of the rainforest for a BigMac.
The Iron Mountain Report,,a free PDF, is the story of a man who claimed to be part of a government think tank of the most prominant and esteemed members of acadamia, business, and government.
The annonymous whistle blower, talks of how troubled he was that the think tank came to the conclusian that Peace was bad for the world.
That all medical cures should cease, technology to save life and extend it should no longer be given to the public, because the biggest problem of the world is over population.
I've heard Jim Marrs, David Wilcock and the project camelot guys talk at length about how Alternative 3 , a suppposed fictional documentary about the destruction of the earth due to over population and the solutions presented for mankind to exist being a real presentation of what the globalists are thinking. Dwight Eisenhower's great granddaughter Laura Magdelene Eisenhower said in a public statement that she was offered a spot on the mars base when over population stresses the earth, supporting alternative 3's movie message
In the Billy Meier contacts, the number one thing these nordic looking aliens are telling Meiers concering the earth's woes, are overpopulation.
In the Micheal Teachings,,,,the number one problem of the world communicated by this entity is over population.
When the check out lady at Whole Foods gives me the stink eye, because I didn't "bring" my own bag, I head swivel and shoulder bob and I say "hey, I'm the most enviromentally friendly cat I know, I'm not having any kids, I can wipe my ass with plastic grocery bags if I deem fit".
Okay, enough with sourcing why I think this all boils down to overpopulation.
Also, it's just what my gut tells me.And sometimes, you just have to trust that.
Guess time will tell....
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one thing williams did not figure into all of what i heard..earth changes.....it seemed to be missing from his equation...but i thought he was really on track
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