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    Is This a Good Idea in Your Opinion?

    I don't know all of the ramifications of this, but from what it says here, I think it is a good idea. What do you think?

    Discovery News > Tech News > Scan Hand for ATM Cash, No Card Required


    Scan Hand for ATM Cash, No Card Required

    Analysis by Alyssa Danigelis
    Sat Apr 14, 2012 08:32 AM ET





    In a move that seems like it should have happened in the year 2000, a Japanese bank announced it will be installing about a dozen automated teller machines that can read customers' palms to identify them. Ogaki Kyoritsu Bank will be the country's first to introduce the system.

    First, Ogaki Kyoritsu Bank (Japanese site) customers will register their biometric information at a branch, according to Gizmag's Darren Quick. Then they'll be able to go to one of the new ATMs and get cash simply by scanning a hand, typing in their birthdate and a four-digit PIN.


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    This being technophilic Japan we're talking about, I would have thought every bank there has body scanning ATMs by now. The thing is, the scanning technology is already out there but still requires every customer to use a card. Essentially the scanning has been an extra security measure.

    The AFP reports that Ziraat Bank in Turkey was the first to use the palm-scanning bank machines that don't need a card. In Japan, Ogaki Kyoritsu plans to install the new ATMs at 10 branches, two mobile banks, and a drive-through location this September.


    Sliding a well-worn piece of plastic into a machine to get cash has long seemed archaic, but I guess adding going card-free in the U.S. would pretty much guarantee higher bank fees. Ugh. As long as old-school plastic still works, I'm in no hurry to scan body parts for a $20 bill.


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    Then again, there's something potentially freeing about not needing a plastic card. Look, guys, I just place my hand here and cash comes out! Still, I do feel kind of bad for parents who will have to explain how this works to little kids: "No, sweetie. I can't always just make money appear."

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    Typing in your birth date, four digit code and hand scan seems a bit redundant.

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    meh. no worse than carrying a card, or facial recognition, etc. It is just an identification method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Skies View Post
    Typing in your birth date, four digit code and hand scan seems a bit redundant.
    two-factor authentication, this makes it more secure. Seems weird with a hand-scan involved, but it does increase security.
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    I am assuming that the "hand scan" records finger prints. I don't like the potential use and ramifications of that at all

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    Yes, it will be a good way to gather everyone's fingerprints for sure. Unfortunately, in this technological age, with hacking and theft rampant, I think more and more ways are going to have to be found to make transactions more secure. I think that is inevitable. I may not like the fact that we have to submit to more and more private invasions, but this is where the world is heading and I don't see any way to stop it. As long as thieves get a slap on the hand, it will remain profitable and attractive to make a living cyber-stealing.
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    The only people who don't have your fingerprints are the people out of government, and they don't want or need them.
    proj·ect
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    2. a large or major undertaking, especially one involving considerable money, personnel, and equipment.
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    4. to propose, contemplate, or plan.
    5. to throw, cast, or impel forward or onward.
    6. to set forth or calculate (some future thing).
    7. to extend or protrude beyond something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Project View Post
    The only people who don't have your fingerprints are the people out of government, and they don't want or need them.
    Not getting your point P

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    Uh... ok, so instead of merely stealing someone's wallet or purse, they will cut off a finger too during the mugging. Great idea. Love it. But, seriously though, biometric security is a good thing, IMHO, it makes it harder for the wrong people to do things they shouldn't. And it's better than having a chip in you that the government can track where ever you go. *shudders*

    Personally, I would rather everyone switch to Bitcoin. No bank ATMs, no government controlled monopoly fiat fake money garbage, and you can use either your phone, or physical bitcoin options, like coins and cards that store a specific denomination of bitcoin protected behind a security seal. If the seal is broken, in order to convert the bitcoin from physical to digital again, that object becomes totally worthless. Like emptying a glass of water, then throwing it in the fireplace, where it shatters into a million pieces. The water is what has value in this story, not the glass. But, what a waste of a perfectly good glass, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Project View Post
    The only people who don't have your fingerprints are the people out of government, and they don't want or need them.
    I can think of plenty of reasons why someone would want someone else's fingerprints. Stealing stuff is just one of those reasons. How about framing someone for murder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Not getting your point P
    Your finger prints are the most trivial thing possible to steal. You leave them everywhere you go. Let alone the fact many of us were fingergprinted in school etc...

    What I am saying is if someone wants your fingerprint they already have it. It is easier than taking your picture! Wait until person thows something out, or picks up something at a store... retrieve item, fingerprint dust it. Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Project View Post
    Your finger prints are the most trivial thing possible to steal. You leave them everywhere you go. Let alone the fact many of us were fingergprinted in school etc...

    What I am saying is if someone wants your fingerprint they already have it. It is easier than taking your picture! Wait until person thows something out, or picks up something at a store... retrieve item, fingerprint dust it. Done.
    In the movies, fingerprints are on the glass of whatever you drank out of. Don't drink! Simple as that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Project View Post
    Your finger prints are the most trivial thing possible to steal. You leave them everywhere you go. Let alone the fact many of us were fingergprinted in school etc...

    What I am saying is if someone wants your fingerprint they already have it. It is easier than taking your picture! Wait until person thows something out, or picks up something at a store... retrieve item, fingerprint dust it. Done.
    Good point ....I should have remembered that from the days I use to watch TV

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