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    Quote Originally Posted by Project
    Since you forced my hand: I am telling you Douglas knew the mysteries of the universe, then went beyond )

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schroedingers_cat

    Adams also brings up a third possibility, introducing a medium or mentally powerful person to try and trip the probability one way or the other, or to peer through the quantum mist to see the cat's destiny...
    or perhaps to create its destiny?...hehehehehe

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    Everything is energy.
    our thoughts. our bodies. physical "reality".
    and there are laws to this energy.

    and, As within, so without.

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    the cover story for the recent issue of Scientific Anerican is:
    "the illusion of gravity Holographic physics might explain natures most baffling force"

    anyone read "the holographic universe" by michael talbot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAmale06
    the cover story for the recent issue of Scientific Anerican is:
    "the illusion of gravity Holographic physics might explain natures most baffling force"

    anyone read "the holographic universe" by michael talbot?
    YES! Awesome book!
    proj·ect
    1. something that is contemplated, devised, or planned; plan; scheme.
    2. a large or major undertaking, especially one involving considerable money, personnel, and equipment.
    3. a specific task of investigation, especially in scholarship.
    4. to propose, contemplate, or plan.
    5. to throw, cast, or impel forward or onward.
    6. to set forth or calculate (some future thing).
    7. to extend or protrude beyond something else.
    8. to use one's voice forcefully enough to be heard at a distance, as in a theater.
    9. to produce a clear impression of one's thoughts, personality, role, etc.

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    the cat is both dead and alive .the observer and the observed

    it exists in both possible states depending on what the participant does..if i "participant" runs over the "observed" ..box ..containing the cat, with a truck ..then the kitty is dead..ifiobserver chooses instead to open the box and pet the kitty ..the kitty lives. The key word is choose

    Leave it to science to make something so simple and that we all have always known into some weird mathamatical uncomprehensible garble.








    Quote Originally Posted by Shecoda
    The cat will starve if nobody opens the box.








    Dilemma If the cat is dead it doesn't matter.

    If the cat is alive it will die of starvation or dehydration if nobody opens the box.

    By the way anytime you come up with more quantum physics or even general physics I have more jokes.

    I love physics.

    I really love temporal physics.

    If a cat yowls in a forest and nobody is around........................................

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    poor kitty

    P.S. the box has to have not been run over with the truck but opened and the kitty let out of it alive in order for it to be able to starve

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    are you dead or alive?

    depends on if I choose to kill you

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    it exists in both possible states depending on what the participant does..if i "participant" runs over the "observed" ..box ..containing the cat, with a truck ..then the kitty is dead..if iobserver chooses instead to open the box and pet the kitty ..the kitty lives. The key word is choose

    Leave it to science to make something so simple and that we all have always known into some weird mathamatical uncomprehensible garble.

    the cat cannot starve unless it lives.

    will you be alive 10 minutes from now? not if i "choose" to shoot you.

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    poor kitty

    think of all the possible realities that could occur depending on what you choose to do..what if you choose to kill the president..what effect would that have on reality or future history.

    all this recent so called scientic revelation is basic knowledge we have always known.

    turth is truth no matter how one may arrive at it.

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    no one does not have to be brilliant..they are only discovering or re-discovering truths we have always known..just by a different means..truth is truth no matter how one may arrive at it.

    thought creates reality ..we all are just viewing it from different points in space.




    Quote Originally Posted by USAmale06
    Hi, Alpha and MaryAlice. Thanks for the welcomes.

    Im looking forward to spending some time here. It seems like it will be very interesting.

    Well, Maryalice, I feel that one does probably have to be brilliant to understand quantum physics fully (it seems to be you will do just fine understanding it.). But one doesnt have to be brilliant to get a grasp of its general principles (that would be me).

    I became interested in quantum phsyics as a result of my desire for knowledge and the truth. I first learned of quantum phsyics from a man who had a near death experience. and quantum phsyics has been a subject ive enjoyed learning more of ever since. as are near death experiences, an area from which we can gain alot of knowledge.

    After i first learned of the important of knowledge is when i would pray for wisdom and knowldge. that, i believe, is what gave me the desire to learn and acquire knowldge. So, i think there is some spiritual nature involved in studying it.

    coincidentaly, when i was browsing in the book store recently i came upon a book about some of the great phsyicists and their "mystical writings". that book is on my list to read.

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    Talking everything is one thing

    Our views of reality are too limited. An example to explain this connection was is to ask what caused Abraham Lincoln's death. The traditional answer would be the wound from the bullet fired from John Wilkes' gun.

    But a complete list would have to include all the events that led to the development of the gun, all the factors that caused Booth to want to kill Lincoln and even all the steps in the evolution of the human race, that allowed for the development of the hand capable of holding the gun, and so on and so on.

    The point is that no single cause and effect event is really separate from the universe as a whole. the universe is like a hologram and just as every portion of a hologram contains the image of the whole, every aspect of the universe unfolds the whole as well.

    Our current way of fragmenting the world into parts not only does not work but may lead to our extinction. We cannot treat parts of our body and not be concerned with the whole. We cannot deal with various problems of society such as crime, poverty, drug addiction and terrorism without addressing the problems of our society as a whole.
    Hmm but didnt we always know this?

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    Yes Linda....I couldn't agree with your more.

    Our views of reality and possibility are severly limited!

    Welcome to Imaginative Worlds btw .....glad to have you with us!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda123
    Our views of reality are too limited. An example to explain this connection was is to ask what caused Abraham Lincoln's death. The traditional answer would be the wound from the bullet fired from John Wilkes' gun.

    But a complete list would have to include all the events that led to the development of the gun, all the factors that caused Booth to want to kill Lincoln and even all the steps in the evolution of the human race, that allowed for the development of the hand capable of holding the gun, and so on and so on.

    The point is that no single cause and effect event is really separate from the universe as a whole. the universe is like a hologram and just as every portion of a hologram contains the image of the whole, every aspect of the universe unfolds the whole as well.

    Our current way of fragmenting the world into parts not only does not work but may lead to our extinction. We cannot treat parts of our body and not be concerned with the whole. We cannot deal with various problems of society such as crime, poverty, drug addiction and terrorism without addressing the problems of our society as a whole.
    Hmm but didnt we always know this?
    Yes, but the Schroedinger's cat experiment, and science in general specializes in eliminating extraneous influences that may affect an experiment.

    The whole idea of Sch's cat is there is a radioactive particle that has EXACTLY a 50% chance of decaying, and killing the cat. This is how the cat turns into a quantum fuzz, neither alive nor dead.

    Although the universe is chaotic and intrinsic, when one studies very small pieces of it, or very large ones, there are certainly patterns that can be used, if not understood.
    proj·ect
    1. something that is contemplated, devised, or planned; plan; scheme.
    2. a large or major undertaking, especially one involving considerable money, personnel, and equipment.
    3. a specific task of investigation, especially in scholarship.
    4. to propose, contemplate, or plan.
    5. to throw, cast, or impel forward or onward.
    6. to set forth or calculate (some future thing).
    7. to extend or protrude beyond something else.
    8. to use one's voice forcefully enough to be heard at a distance, as in a theater.
    9. to produce a clear impression of one's thoughts, personality, role, etc.

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