The OUIJA Board

[nightcat]

The Ouija, for some reason, pretty much calls only the lower astral realm critters which are, variously, called nasties, boogeys, cagey cretins and a few other names. They're negative entities (not demons) which have never been human. I really don't know anyone who's had a positive experience with an Ouija. Anyone I know who has thought they've come into communication with a deceased loved one or an entity from the light has come to find out later that a cagey cretin was simply messing with them. Nasties can be difficult to shake once you've invited them in via an Ouija and they inavariably bring their nasty friends along.

[Grim Jim]

I haven't messed around with a Ouija board since the summer of 1982 at the latest. I was around twelve years old at the time and me and about 3 or 4 of my friends used to hang out at my house and see if we could get it to work.

Mostly it would only answer yes or no to questions or give out number answers when appropriate questions were asked. After awhile we got ahold of something that said it was a dead spirit. We kept trying to get information out of it over the course of a few days. Eventually it told us that he was a dead indian who was murdered and his body was buried in the side of a cliff.

At this point everyone thought the other was faking so to ensure that no one was cheating we made it a rule that the users of the board had to be blindfolded and could not ask questions of the spirits.

The other witnesses in the room would write down the answers and only reveal the information after the session or in the formation of a follow up question.

We even went so far as to rotate the board randomly so that the users could not memorize the location of the letters or numbers and come up with faked responses.

That was when I think we started to get a little freaked out because the board was still giving out coherent messages, despite all of the failsafes against trickery we put in.

We tried to get it to tell us more specific info as to where his body was but it seemed to always want to change the subject. The only thing we could get it to tell us was that his body was at the American River which is across the street from my house. We thought this was odd because the nearest cliffs on the American River were about 10 miles upstream in Folsom, CA near Folsom Prison.

Could a spirit travel that far to speak through a Ouija board? If the Ouija board truly does open a portal maybe it looks like a bright beacon in the darkness on the other side and spirits/entities flock to it like moths to a flame?

After a few days, rather than answer our questions it kept turning the tables on us and would ask questions of us. Our ages, names, and other personal info. After awhile I think it kind of lost interest and we weren't able to contact it. I think we found out its name at one point, I don't remember what it was but I think it sounded very different, like you would expect an American Indian name to sound.

Now the quetion I have is one I hadn't considered until typing this message. I still have that same Ouija board upstairs as we speak. It is one of the tan and black Parker Bros. models sold in the early 80's with the white plastic planchette. Probably the only reason I haven't used it in all of these years is because the pad for the front leg of the planchette fell off not long after that summer in '82.

If we did open a portal in this house could it still be open for the last 23 years and if so how can it be closed. Do I have to destroy the board to close it or should I not worry? I never really considered this until now....

[ShardsOfNarsil]

At this point everyone thought the other was faking so to ensure that no one was cheating we made it a rule that the users of the board had to be blindfolded and could not ask questions of the spirits.

The other witnesses in the room would write down the answers and only reveal the information after the session or in the formation of a follow up question.

We even went so far as to rotate the board randomly so that the users could not memorize the location of the letters or numbers and come up with faked responses.

That was when I think we started to get a little freaked out because the board was still giving out coherent messages, despite all of the failsafes against trickery we put in.

I just wanted to highlight this, because it has been long held by skeptics that if you blindfolded the users of the Ouija, that it wouldn't work. This is the first actual testimony I've seen of someone doing this and still getting direct answers.

[nightcat]

Could a spirit travel that far to speak through a Ouija board? If the Ouija board truly does open a portal maybe it looks like a bright beacon in the darkness on the other side and spirits/entities flock to it like moths to a flame?

Now the quetion I have is one I hadn't considered until typing this message. I still have that same Ouija board upstairs as we speak. It is one of the tan and black Parker Bros. models sold in the early 80's with the white plastic planchette. Probably the only reason I haven't used it in all of these years is because the pad for the front leg of the planchette fell off not long after that summer in '82.

If we did open a portal in this house could it still be open for the last 23 years and if so how can it be closed. Do I have to destroy the board to close it or should I not worry? I never really considered this until now...

I don't think departed human souls speak through Ouija boards very often, if at all. If a departed human wants to communicate with you they'll generally appear to you somehow; they'll manifest themselves (whether by appearing to your mind as they did in physical life, by an object connected to them or very often by a scent you'll associate with them and most often by appearing in a dream) so as to let it be known to you exactly who they are. Physical distance as we percieve it has absolutely no meaning to the disincorporated spirit, so it wouldn't be odd to meet a ghost from half a world away.

I think your analogy of the "moths to a flame" is probably correct; I think when you open the Ouija session and thereby express desire for an encounter you indeed put up a signal for the entities to respond to.

I would destroy the Ouija, to be certain. As long as it's around, any entity that has attached itself to it has entry to your home and life. After burning the board, get a white sage and juniper smudging stick and light it in each room of the house as you demand the entities to depart. The particular incantation you use doesn't matter, it's purely the intent.

Just my two cents!

[circledancer]

Through the glass darkly, the ouiji repulses me on a very human level...It just feels wrong, when I have no facts to work with I invariably trust my instinsts.

[nightcat]

And I'd say your instincts are very good, circledancer.

[Grim Jim]

I just wanted to highlight this, because it has been long held by skeptics that if you blindfolded the users of the Ouija, that it wouldn't work. This is the first actual testimony I've seen of someone doing this and still getting direct answers.

Wow Shards, I never knew that !

Being that the last session we had was at least 23 years ago (was '82 really that long ago ) I'd have to say that was my best recollection. Whether or not the answers were as direct before the blindfold or not I cannot remember, but I do seem to recall us getting answers after the blindfold was added.

I haven't had any extreme negative experiences in this house since the use of the Ouija board. We do get odd noises at times but that is no proof of the paranormal (house settling, etc.). We never saw or heard anything strange while we used the board but maybe that was because we never asked anything to show itself or prove its existence.

From time to time over the years, people have told me they get a very odd sensation of heaviness or darkness in my house, even when they enter on a sunny day in broad daylight. On very rare occasions I myself get odd feelings of nervousness or dread that come over me when I am alone in the house, but like I said it is not very often. Perhaps over the years I have just grown accustomed to these feelings and I have built up a sort of tolerance of them.

Nightcat - I wonder if the spirit we contacted was really a departed human soul or just one of those lower plane entities that you talked about. It could have just been having fun with us by gathering information from our statements or possibly our subconcious. It could have then used that information to weave answers or broad, semi-plausible scenarios. All of us being around 12 at the time it could have just ran with it and let our minds fill in the blanks.

Whatever the case there had to be some sort of intelligence behind the answers we got, there is no way random movement of the planchette could account for the answers we received.

I am willing to burn the board but before I do:

1) It seems like a good idea to take the board to a remote location for burning, however, is it necessary to burn the board in the proximity of the house to close the portal (if it exists)? If I understood your message correctly, perhaps the portal is fixed to the boards location?

2) I am a little worried about the "asking them to depart" part. That sounds a little like exorcism to me. After relistening to some Malachi Martin interviews that were sent to me (thanks again Derek) I keep hearing his voice in my head warning me that "exorcism shouldn't be attempted by the untrained." I don't really have anything too bad happening here other than an odd feeling now and then. I would really hate to stir up a sleeping hornets nest. If I burn the board is the smudge stick or some other form of protection absolutely necessary?

p.s. Its weird that I hadn't really thought about the my own Ouija board experience until I read all of yours above. It never bothered me in all of those years so why the hell am I worried about it now? It seems strange, but I guess I forgot about it.

[Grim Jim]

Nightcat (or anyone else) have any ideas about my above questions?

Should I just let sleeping dogs lie or should I destroy the board?

--Mike

[circledancer]

I think the ouiji is not a porthole for departed humans but one for demonic entities in the guise of human spirits...a point of focus for the intention of allowing access, I would not fear it as an object per se but would not want to be in attendance during its use.

[ShardsOfNarsil]

I tend to agree with you, Circledancer.

Jim, for what it's worth, I would burn the board. I have no particular expertise on this, but this is what my friend and I did. We just smashed the planchette and used the board itself to test our budding martial arts abilities. I have no insight on where to do it, but I'd burn it. Just my opinion.

[Alger]

You might want to just take a reality check. Them boards ain't going to hurt you in spite of what some of the flakier peeps believe.

[Ninjutsu]

Ouija Boards - A Way of channeling The Spirit World in The Form of A Game

Main Question - Since Ouija Boards are in The Form of A Game is it any great wonder why The Spirits of The Spirit World will make it A Game with people who use The Ouija Boards?


--- Ninja

[Grim Jim]

You might want to just take a reality check. Them boards ain't going to hurt you in spite of what some of the flakier peeps believe.

Point taken oh great master of reality


I do like Shards idea of unleashing a good whoop-down on the board. It would be fun to do some target practice on it with my .357. I could loosely nail the board to a post in its center, give it a spin and then ask it questions as I blast it and see what comes up .

I think that would be better than taking a chance on getting something negative hanging around my house (more fun too).