A bit of different Remote Viewing....

[Alpha]

Well WOW, WOW,WOW everyone...fasten your seat belts for this weekend's roster with Art!!

An entire paranormal weekend is in store for us.

Art did a stellar interview IMHO with Donahue back in Feb 2004...a classic at a time when good old Aaron did a few others, for those who recall.

If you recall, Aaron and Ed were once "compadres" with I guess a bit of a twist.

Most of us long time listeners remember Dame's RV'ing the "devil" when he couldn't RV Saddam...that was another great in talk radio history, me thinks...nevertheless....

If you want to take a ride, this Sunday may be one way to do it!!

This topic likely belongs in another area in the long term, however, want to see what you all think...about Dames, about Donahue.....RV'ing in general.....Art and Dames in the past as one of his most seeming "favorite" or atleast most hosted guests.....what's it all about??....what do you think??

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Aaron Donahue




From: http://www.remoteviewer.org/remotevi...on-donahue.htm

Aaron Donahue originally showed up at PSI TECH's doors in 1996 when PSI TECH was training civilians from all walks of life. Ed Dames & Jonina Dourif trained Aaron Donahue along with two other students in a three student class that lasted nine days in PSI TECH's Beverly Hills training office.

Aaron moved in with one of the other classmates for a short time and then disappeared from PSI TECH's remote viewing community and went back to drifting from one person and place to the next as he had done before.

When Aaron heard that Ed Dames had left PSI TECH in 1999, he latched on to Ed and started making wild claims about remote viewing lotteries and demons. Ed Dames, perhaps unaware of Donahue's deranged thinking, began parading Donahue around for remote viewing demonstrations. But in 2003, after months of posting some of darkest and disturbing writings in the psi field, Donahue announced proudly that he was a Luciferian (devil worshipper.)

Aaron Donahue posted the following in June 2003:

"Lucifer is the loving progenitor of what we refer to as a complete human being or "mirror." It does not take your soul but rather, it provides sanctuary... Lucifer also oversees much of our future with children. This will explain why it is that Ed has never located a missing child. Ed is clearly influenced by the Angels who are at war with mankind..." -- Aaron Donahue

"Here is one hilarious situation that ended a working relationship between Ed Dames and Jennifer (Aaron's sister). Jennifer, true to the workings of all that is fun and good, sent a link to Ed dames... this item was a butt-plug fashioned after the baby Jesus! Ha! I laughed my ass off. Poor Ed did not find it funny and "fired" Jennifer. Was it worth it? Yes! Jennifer is on my side now working for "darkness". Ha!" -- Aaron Donahue

"As a Luciferian, I am the obvious target of hatred, lies, fear, and outrageous slander by many that do not share my views. This is, of course to be expected of ignorance. Ed is not ignorant therefore he has clearly betrayed himself knowing that from the very beginning, he has been working for Lucifer. " -- Aaron Donahue

"Each time that Ed predicts death and destruction to all via Coast to Coast, he sells his Mind-fizzle kit and promotes a very expensive short seminar for suckers..." -- Aaron Donahue

In February 2004, Ed Dames' organization posted the following about Aaron Donahue and F.M. Bonsall:

"The time has come where we feel compelled to inform our students about the sad and unfortunate decisions of FM Bonsall and his association with Luciferian.

As many of you have already heard, FM is Aaron Donahue's new partner in remote viewing training from the radio talk shows. Over the last year Mr. FM Bonsall took serious advantage of those that tried to help and support him when all along he was deceiving us and was in repeated communication with Aaron, a professed Luciferian despite the warning from Major Dames and Remote Perception that any contact with Aaron would terminate future association with Major Dames and Remote Perception.

This explains his serious lack of ethics that came into question several times over the last year and as a result the association with FM was terminated last October. Aaron proudly announced that FM now teaches following Lucerfierians and his new recruits. Aaron professes in the belief that all Christians should be killed, parents should show their children how to use LSD and other serious mind altering drugs, because as Aaron has stated, "the most spiritual people I know take massive amounts of [these] drugs"."

Wonder what Ingo Swan would say about all of this??!!

[smadewell]

My dear lady, these charlatans couldn't remote view their way out of a paper bag! For those would-be remote viewers out there I have but this to say.... If at first you don't succeed, try again. Then quit. There's no use being a damn fool about it.

[Captain Beyond]

Yeah, and OBE's, psychics, etc. are all phony too?

[smadewell]

Yeah, and OBE's, psychics, etc. are all phony too?

oh dear! am i going to be labeled a bona fide skeptic now because i don't believe dames and his ilk? must i again offer to conduct an RV experiment to prove or disprove RVing? heck fire! the only one who came close last time was Dale and he was just guessing!

OBE? Could be real. Could be nothing more than flights of fancy. Near death experience type OBE? I don't doubt that! Astral Projection type OBE? Well, let's put it to the test, eh? Let's find out!

Psychics? I like to call the really good ones "pattern interpreters" and the not-so-good ones "social commentators" and the damn sucky ones "lucky guessers on that rare day they get something vaguely correct and/or charlatans on their many, many bad days".

Yes, CB! There are a shit load of bad apples out there and George seems to bring them onto the show non-stop of late! Do the genuine articles exist? SURE! They just don't seem to get the air time ... largely because they ain't looking to make a buck off of people desparately seeking something greater (and/or easier) to believe in.

Don't throw me out of the Fringe just because I'm a tad skeptical about a lot of C2C guests.... My uncle witches wells and I've tried my hand at it too. It works! He's never charged a dime for any work he's done and believes his gift would vanish if he did! Those EVP folk who ain't selling tapes and books that rarely appear on C2C? I don't doubt their work! They seem genuine enough to me, because they ain't selling shit! I could name a few more, but ... the bottom line is ... if you have a gift from "whatever source" ... and you're making a buck off of it and that's how you earn a living? Then chances are you'll be tempted to put on a good show in order to bring in the bucks.

and yes, last night's C2C was terrbile -- fake devil guy, oscar calling in again, and scott stevens - who's weather stuff i love - went on and on about how we should look to the aliens for salvation. well, it's just my opinion but that's exactly what the PTBs are banking on, CB! look to the greys and nordics to save us from the evil lizard people, right? and then what are these greys and nordics going to ask for in return or as a sign of good faith that we'll join them in the Brotherhood of the Stars?

I'll tell you! they'll ask us to disarm and take a verichip up the ass, that's what! it's all part of the master plan. gee wiz, cb! i'd love to believe we've got some cool space buds out there willing to suck down a few brews with us, but ... i just don't think that's what's going on here. i think the PTBs are setting us up for a fall! People are all too quick to swallow this stuff, because ... what else is there for people to believe in on this freaking rock? Politics? Nationalism? Religion? TV? Each other? Ourselves?

People are looking for something larger than life. Larger than nature! People want to believe in something bigger and better and more mysterious and something far, far less mundane.... I just hate to see people buy a phoney bill of goods, especially when it's so obviously motivated by the money making ventures of charlatans and/or part the PTBs agenda to enslave the masses!

color me concerned and worried and suspicious.... color me a skeptic, but ... it all stems from a complete lack of trust in the PTBs and their witting and unwitting minions.... i like this little group we've got here and i care about the members.... i know i'm stepping on toes, but ... i care about you guys and i hate to see people snookered!

[Alpha]

smade we are all different with unlimited possibility of paradigm of thought, opinion, consideration.

Some take certain subject matter more seriously than others. Some take the paranormal, conspiratoral, metaphysical either in all or partial as serious, possible or as entertainment and not possible or any combination in between.

If we all knew what the truth was, what the right approach was, guess we wouldn't need to read what we do, listen to what we listen to or even dialogue about it.

Everyone's perception is their reality and their right to have a current best theory. This is how we grow, learn and reassess in this ongoing journey.

It's not as important to me as to what one beleives or buys in to, but why....that's where the meat is, IMHO.

[smadewell]

It's not as important to me as to what one beleives or buys in to, but why....that's where the meat is, IMHO.

and once again you've cut to the chase like knife through hot butter! why is indeed the question.... why are people seeking answers and why on earth do they look to charlatans for these answers? i guess it's an age old dilemma. there's always some snake oil dealer willing to sell you a bottle that'll cure just about any problem you got. i didn't like these people when i was in the church and i sure don't like the ones outside either. snake oil dealers.... they're the bane of my existence!

belly up to the wagon folks.... you won't hear another word for me on the matter. you don't need smade ruining all your fun.... enjoy.... i'll be lurking around....

[Alpha]

Well, snake oil salesman have likely been around from the beginning of "time"....nothing new here....IMHO

Somewhere between all of them, us and others is the truth. Truth or snippets of it can likely be found in small bits and pieces from all sources.

I don't think anyone has said that they either beleive or don't beleive in any topic or guest that we have discussed here hook, line and sinker.

Part of it all surely is a bit of entertainment, however also a quest for what really is in the small, medium and BIG picture.

Haven't yet found or met anyone that has all the answers or the ultimate docterine/manifesto of what it's all about.

Probably for most of us, we're somewhere in the middle on a majority of these topics...we have neither stepped through the door, nor have we closed it.

After all, isn't that part of the draw, adventure and fun??!!

[Captain Beyond]

Sure, charlitans exist in almost every field. As for me, many topics, I just don't know about.

Have I seen a Lizard man? No, do I believe? I don't know. Do I believe in Ed Dames? I don't know, just know that both the US and Soviet governments did spend much money on the effort, so I leave the door open.

Hell, I don't know, mebbe never will.

[Topper]

Yeah, and OBE's, psychics, etc. are all phony too?

that implication means I'm a ghost ... hence the handle

Its my astute preception that Arron is nothing more than a disinformation plant to discredit
any remote viewer who has worked for the government.

This is based upon my personal interaction with a few counter intelligence men/woman
they all use the same type of body language and methods to destroy there targets.
all one has to be is observant to notice the technique.

its the atypical dark horse theme

[Captain Beyond]

Could be Topper. I never put much creedence in those that embrace the dark side. Not to minimize that the dark side doesn't exist, just that I choose to not embrace it or even set aside my time for it. The light, the sunshine always feels better than the cold darkness!