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    Nazca Mystery

    Nazca photos deepen mystery

    Chicago Tribune
    By Colin McMahon

    The Nazca Lines have been a source of mystery and dispute since their discovery in southern Peru nearly a century ago. So why should the latest find be any different?

    Japanese enthusiasts recently released new aerial photographs of figures etched in the ground of the Nazca region, adding a fresh dollop of wonder to the giant geometric patterns and animal drawings that scientists say the Nazca Indians created as many as 2,000 years ago.

    Peruvian officials expressed excitement about the announcement. But Nazca experts said the Japanese discoveries might merely be good photographs of previously known lines.

    'Saying these figures are new is a risk,' said Josue Lancho Rojas, a Nazca historian and writer. 'You cannot say at this time that there are any virgin sites.'

    Even if the Japanese figures are not new, the announcement exposed shortcomings in Nazca scholarship. And it raised new questions about the Peruvian government's commitment to sophisticated scientific study.

    Largely undocumented There is no central catalog detailing the hundreds of lines and figures already mapped and measured. There is no database for archeologists or, for that matter, a team headed by a literature professor from Yamagata University in Japan, to refer to when trying to piece together the history of the Nazca.

    'There are two consequences to this `discovery,' one positive and one negative,' Lancho said. 'The positive is that a lot of tourists are going to come to Nazca now, eager to see the new figures.

    'The negative is that once again it shows that the National Institute of Culture has no central registry of the geoglyphs.'

    Putting together such a list would not be difficult, experts said, but it would take time and money. Though the Peruvian government profits greatly from the international tourists who come to Nazca to fly over the lines for a dizzying display of ancient accomplishment, Peruvian officials say they could not afford such a project.

    'The government should open its doors and say that all the scientists of the world, all the foundations, are invited to come and work,' Lancho said. 'But the Peruvian government puts up too many obstacles to projects.'

    Though the Nazca have been studied for decades, rich areas of research remain, said Giuseppe Orefici, director of the Italian Center for Pre-Columbian Archeological Studies and Research.

    One example is the painstaking excavation of the Cahuachi complex, the Nazca's ceremonial and administrative center. Though Orefici's team has gathered a treasure of artifacts and a wealth of knowledge amid its pyramids and esplanade, Cahuachi is little noticed outside select archeological circles.

    The Nazca emerged as a distinct civilization about 200 years after the time of Jesusand flourished for centuries until the Wari Indians usurped them in the 800s. The Nazca created a system of aqueducts still used today. They were skilled with textiles and ceramics. And they were prolific illustrators in the sand, gravel and dirt of their Pacific Coast region.

    There are the best-known figures: The hummingbird and the monkey. The spider, the whale and the humanoid figure dubbed 'The Astronaut.' Trapezoids, circles and long, straight lines seem to be everywhere around Nazca.

    The famous figures are clear even to the untrained eye. But other lines take work, and sometimes luck, to detect. Whether a figure shows up clearly depends on several factors.

    Winds take sand and dirt and dust over the plains and hills that were called home by the Nazca and their ancestors, the Paracas. How sunlight falls on the earth affects visibility, so some figures can be spotted only at certain times of the day. Having a good pilot who knows where and how to look helps too.

    Some difficult to spot The Japanese, for example, needed several flights to identify their figures. Among their more striking images: what appears to be an animal with horns, measuring nearly 200 feet long.

    A hummingbird they recorded might prove more interesting to science, however. A Chilean colleague of Orefici's noted that bird's genitalia appeared different from that on other Nazca hummingbirds. Perhaps this was connected to fertility, the scientist speculated.

    Such theories go to the heart of what makes the Nazca Lines so compelling.

    Science has debunked the idea that beings from outer space made the lines. The Nazca were capable of designing the figures using a grid and template system, experts have shown, and the execution of the lines using ropes, sticks and rocks is not complicated. The Nazca used the lines in ceremonies, experts say, and some probably are connected to a calendar.

    But believers in extraterrestrials still are drawn to Nazca. And even many non-believers find something otherworldly about the place.

    Orefici is rueful about how talk of UFOs or 'new' Nazca lines garners more attention than a critical dig at the Grand Pyramid of Cahuachi. But he understands it too.

    'The Nazca Lines are interesting because they create dreams,' said Orefici, an Italian who has studied in Peru for 30 years and curates the Antonini Museum in Nazca. 'It doesn't matter whether I can say they are completely wrong. This is what people want.

    'To be able to dream, to leave normal life for a little bit,' Orefici said. 'This is a beautiful part of the geoglyphs.'


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    If one looks hard enough they will find some of these icons elsewhere...but don't let us interrupt your soap operas and ball games in the mean time...yhat just gives the rest of us the edge to do what we have to do. Enjoy your educations shows?
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    Thanks, Alpha, that`s the first illustration of the glyphs I`ve ever seen that had a scale to go with it. When you consider their actual size on the ground, there`s no way they could be seen from any great altitude. IOW, they weren`t meant to signal any ancient astronauts in orbit.
    I favor the theory that the Incas, who are now known to have had hot-air balloon technology, used the ballons for aerial observation to make sure the glyphs looked right. As to why they did it, I have no idea.
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    Priests may have designed Nazca Lines?

    Well I don't buy in to this article for a moment...seems like a huge attempt of disinformation to me:

    Priests may have designed Nazca Lines

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    NAZCA, Peru — High priests at an ancient religious compound in southern Peru may have designed the mysterious Nazca lines, a set of huge geometric patterns, animal figures and long lines etched in the desert, the area's top archaeologist said. NAZCA, Peru — High priests at an ancient religious compound in southern Peru may have designed the mysterious Nazca lines, a set of huge geometric patterns, animal figures and long lines etched in the desert, the area's top archaeologist said.

    Researchers say the Cahua-chi compound, built in 400 B.C., is just across the Nazca Valley from the lines, one of Peru's most popular tourist attractions and a U.N. World Heritage site. "It is logical to think that the Nazca people's religious beliefs originated in this ceremonial site and got expressed on the wide-open plain," Italian archaeologist Giuseppe Orefici, who leads research at Cahuachi, said last week. Geographical proximity is not the only evidence of links between the two ancient sites — the same religious icons appear at the lines and on ceramics and crafts excavated at the Cahuachi compound.

    "Felines and whales are found in all Nazcan art, and this is what we've found in the geoglyphs," Orefici said, referring to ground drawings surrounding the Nazca lines and the Cahuachi compound. The Nazca lines, best viewed from the air, were made by clearing away surface shale or piling it up onto other stones. Among its most emblematic figures is a giant monkey with a spiral tail.

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    HERE'S an excellent site of the topic of the Nazca Lines

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    An important place to start for those of you on a spiritual path and aware you are waking up. If you aren't sure what you are, some will know in due time...here.

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    http://www.labyrinthina.com/nazca.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlantis Buzz View Post
    An important place to start for those of you on a spiritual path and aware you are waking up. If you aren't sure what you are, some will know in due time...here.

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    http://www.labyrinthina.com/nazca.htm
    Great link Buzz thanks....I love that site...it's a good one!!

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    I would absolutely love to do a flyover of the Nazca Lines, not to mention all the other great images there. I don't know why more people are not compelled to investigate this strange place!

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    Nazca Lines’ discovered in Kazakhstan

    Media outlets as well as the official government website in Kazakhstan are reporting the surprise discovery of local geoglyphs or ‘Nazca Lines’.

    Geoglyphs are drawings created on the ground by arranging stones or removing the top layers of earth. These designs typically cover large areas.

    The most famous geoglyphs are those found in the Nazca desert in Peru. These show hummingbirds, spiders, monkeys, fish, sharks, llamas, and lizards.

    The Kazakhstan Geoglyphs (photo above, thanks to photojournalist N. Dorogov) appear to depict a humanoid figure wedged between two unusual structures. The drawings are located in the remote Karatau Mountains in South Kazakhstan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
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    Oh Alpha, how could you not share this quote from that same source

    Kazhakstan is an area of intense UFO sightings and activity. Recently the Kazakhstan Government toyed with the idea of creating a UFO landing field and an alien embassy.
    I mean, wow!

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    Good article/photos on this topic from Graham Hancock's site:

    Beneath The Nasca Lines and Other Coastal Geoglyphs of Peru and Chile

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    Nasca Lines May Be Giant Map Of Underground Water Sources

    Nasca Lines may be giant map of underground water sources
    August, 30 2010

    American researcher David Johnson has advanced a theory that Nasca Lines may be related to water. He thinks that the geoglyphs may be a giant map of the underground water sources traced on the land.
    The Nasca Lines are located in the Peruvian desert, about 200 miles south of Lima. The assortment of perfectly-straight lines lies in an area measuring 37 miles long and 1-mile wide.

    The Nasca plain is one of the driest places on Earth, getting less than one inch of rain a year. So, when Johnson started his research in 1995, he became aware of the scarcity of water in the region and the effect that this had on agricultural production and the quality of life.

    While looking for sources of water, he noticed that ancient aqueducts, called puquios, seemed to be connected with some of the lines.

    The expert said that a high percentage of potable water of the mountain chain moves through underground filtrations and that the pre-Hispanic population knew perfectly the cartography of water.

    He said that lines like the ones in Nasca would be "a language to communicate where underground wells and aqueducts are located".

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    Very interesting Judee ......

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    Take a look at this!!!

    Scientists claim new geoglyph find in Nazca, Peru

    Two scientists from Yamagata University in Japan reported finding two new geoglyphs in southern Peru’s Nazca province, Andina reported.

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    The new geoglyphs depict a human head and an animal figure that the researchers have yet to identify, state news agency Andina reported. According to the archaeology faculty chief at Yamagata, Yoichi Watanabe, the drawing of the human head is 4.2 meters long and 3.1 m wide. The geoglyphs have most probably not been identified in aerial surveys before because of their small size, Watanabe said.

    The geoglyphs are located close to the Nazca Lines, one of Peru’s most popular attractions where tourist planes routinely fly over the ancient geoglyphs of monkeys, hummingbirds and spiders. The Lines are a UNESCO world heritage, created between 500 B.C. and A.D. 500, and are among the world’s greatest archaeological enigmas.

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