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    Quote Originally Posted by Judee View Post
    As horrifying as the above list is, think about this... Everytime you go to your friendly trust-me-I'm-your-doctor, you are being experimented on without your permission. You think those drugs the doc prescribes are safe, right? Doctors today are little more than paid whores for the pharmaceutical industry, and their patients are the lab rats!
    I totally agree Judee.....well said .

    The pushing of the so called "flu" shot as well as the mandatory vaccines is just the tip of the iceberg.

    I haven't filled or have flushed most RX's prescribed for many years now and rarely even use over the counter meds. I don't trust any of it!

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    Is H1N1 adding another chapter to this list??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Is H1N1 adding another chapter to this list??
    Yes, absolutely alpha! This is turning out to be a financial bonanza for Big-Pharma, and as usual, the losers are the public guinea pigs.
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    This is a long article, however well worth the read IMO.......

    The Hidden Tragedy of the CIA's Experiments on Children

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    From early 1940 to 1953, Dr. Lauretta Bender, a highly respected child neuropsychiatrist practicing at Bellevue Hospital in New York City, experimented extensively with electroshock therapy on children who had been diagnosed with "autistic schizophrenia." In all, it has been reported that Bender administered electroconvulsive therapy to at least 100 children ranging in age from three years old to 12 years, with some reports indicating the total may be twice that number. .....................

    A 1954 scientific study of about 50 of Bender's young electroshock patients, conducted by two psychologists, found that nearly all were worse off after the "therapy" and that some had become suicidal after treatment. One of the children studied in 1954 was the son of well-known writer Jacqueline Susann, author of the bestselling novel "Valley of the Dolls." Susann's son, Guy.........Guy returned home from Bender's care a nearly lifeless child. Susann later told people that Bender had "destroyed" her son. Guy has been confined to institutions since his treatment......

    About the same time Dr. Bender was conducting her electroshock experiments, she was also widely experimenting on autistic and schizophrenic children with what she termed other "treatment endeavors." These included use of a wide array of psycho-pharmaceutical agents, several provided to her by the Sandoz Chemical Co. in Basel, Switzerland, as well as Metrazol, sub-shock insulin therapy, amphetamines and anticonvulsants. Metrazol was a trade name for pentylenetetrazol, a drug used as a circulatory and respiratory stimulant. High doses cause convulsions, as discovered in 1934 by the Hungarian-American neurologist and psychiatrist Ladislas J. Meduna.......

    Metrazol had been used in convulsive therapy, but was never considered to be effective, and side effects such as seizures were difficult to avoid. The medical records of several patients who were confined at Vermont State Hospital, a public mental facility, reveal that Metrazol was administered to them by CIA contractor Dr. Robert Hyde on numerous occasions in order "to address overly aggressive behavior." One of these patients, Karen Wetmore, received the drug on a number of occasions for no discernible medical reason. During the same ten-year period in which Metrazol was used by the Vermont State Hospital, patient deaths skyrocketed. In 1982, the FDA revoked its approval of Metrazol.


    Here it should be noted that, during the cold war years, CIA and Army Counter-Intelligence Corps (CIC) interrogators, working as part of projects Bluebird and Artichoke, sometimes injected large amounts of Metrazol into selected enemy or Communist agents for the purposes of severely frightening other suspected agents, by forcing them to observe the procedure. The almost immediate effects of Metrazol are shocking for many to witness: subjects will shake violently, twisting and turning. They typically arch, jerk and contort their bodies and grimace in pain. With Metrazol, as with electroshock, bone fractures - including broken necks and backs - and joint dislocations are not uncommon, unless strong sedatives are administered beforehand...............


    The Army, the CIA and Metrazol

    Army CIC interrogators working with the CIA at prisoner of war camps and safe house locations in post-war Germany on occasion used Metrazol, morphine, heroin and LSD on incarcerated subjects. According to former CIC officer Miles Hunt, several "safe houses and holding areas outside of Frankfurt near Oberursel" - a former Nazi interrogation center taken over by the US - were operated by a "special unit run by Capt. Malcolm S. Hilty, Maj. Mose Hart and Capt. Herbert Sensenig. The unit was especially notorious in its applications of interrogation methods [including the use of electroshock and Metrazol, mescaline, amphetamines and other drugs]............

    Dr. Bender Discovers LSD


    In 1955 and1956, Dr. Bender began hearing glowing accounts about the potential of LSD for producing remarkable results in children suffering mental disorders, including autism and schizophrenia. Bender's earlier work with electroshock therapy had brought her into contact with several other prominent physicians who, at the time, were covert contractors with the CIA's MK/ULTRA and Artichoke projects. Primary among these physicians were Drs. Harold A. Abramson, Paul Hoch, James B. Cattell, Joel Elkes, Max Fink, Harris Isbell and Alfred Hubbard.


    Some of these names may be familiar to readers. Dr. Abramson, a noted allergist who surreptitiously worked for both the US Army and CIA since the late 1940s, was the physician Frank Olson was taken to see, shortly before his murder in New York City in November 1953. About a year earlier, Drs. Hoch and Cattell were responsible for injecting unwitting New York State Psychiatric Institute patient Harold Blauer with a massive dose of mescaline that killed him.



    Dr. Elkes was one of the earliest physicians in Europe to experiment with LSD, having requested samples of the drug from Sandoz Chemical Co. in 1949. Elkes was a close associate of Dr. Abraham Wikler, who worked closely with Dr. Harris Isbell at the now-closed Lexington, Kentucky, prison farm, where hundreds of already drug-addicted inmates were given heroin in exchange for their participation in LSD and mescaline experiments underwritten by the CIA and Pentagon. Elkes worked closely with the CIA, Pentagon and Britain's MI6 on drug experiments in England and the United States....................


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    Wow!!! I was just about to post this article and you beat me to it!!!! It's pretty stunning. Moreover, the US government STILL is using drugs when interrogating "terrorists."

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    Alpha, thank you for posting this. I can't even begin to comment as it is too emotional an issue for me... I just wish people would wake up to not only government, but to the egregious 'medical business'. I also wish people would stop allowing themselves to be used as human guinea pigs for big-pharma!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judee View Post
    As horrifying as the above list is, think about this... Everytime you go to your friendly trust-me-I'm-your-doctor, you are being experimented on without your permission. You think those drugs the doc prescribes are safe, right? Doctors today are little more than paid whores for the pharmaceutical industry, and their patients are the lab rats!
    So I guess that you won't be going to your doctor when you get sick. Wow. Yes some doctors are whores and some are not. There are hundreds of thousands of them in this great country of ours. The internet with online medical libraries is are greatest weapon. You could always do some research if you've got a question. Just because some physicians in the US have engaged in unscrupulous behavior doesn't mean that every doctor in America is the same.

    You could go to the Christian Science reading room if you're sick. But consider my Christian Scientist aunt, who never missed church. When she broke her hip due to a fall, she went to the hospital.

    Unauthorized testing of vaccines is wrong in so many ways. Even today, homeless people and third world people are subjected to unauthorized drug and vaccine experimentation. But that doesn't mean that every doctor is some mad scientist!

    I really hope that you guys don't get sick is all. And you folks have made me do the unthinkable: Defend doctors. Doctors and lawyers are natural enemies. I've read so many malpractice cases, I get cross-eyed. But malpractice is just screw-ups usually, although unauthorized testing is malpractice. If a surgeon leaves a scalpal in you and then sews you up, it's incompetence, not a test of a new-fangled procedure, I swear!!!!

    You know, years ago I lost weight suddenly and started throwing up. If I hadn't gone to a doctor and taken the GI tests, which identified my food allergy, I would be dead today. Not one doctor gave me any strange drugs and I was subjected to pretty well-known procedures. My food allergy was not the result of unhealthy living; it was genetic. Anyone can get sick, even is she lives like Euell Gibbons in a clean country environment. Healthy living helps, but if one gets deathly ill, GO TO A DOCTOR. (I'm still totally in shock).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabucat View Post
    (I'm still totally in shock).
    Sorry to hear that. Hope you get better.
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    Way, way too late.........

    Brainwash victims win cash claims

    HUNDREDS of mentally ill patients who were subjected to barbaric CIA-funded brainwashing experiments by a Scottish doctor could be entitled to compensation following a landmark court ruling.

    Doctor Ewan Cameron, who became one of the world’s leading psychiatrists, developed techniques used by Nazi scientists to wipe out the existing personalities of people in his care
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    Cameron, who graduated from Glasgow University, was recruited by the CIA during the cold war while working at McGill University in Montreal, Canada.



    He carried out mind-control experiments using drugs such as LSD on hundreds of patients, but only 77 of them were awarded compensation.



    Now a landmark ruling by a Federal Court judge in Montreal will allow more than 250 former patients, whose claims were rejected, to seek compensation..............


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    The most important part of this victory IMO is that here is definitive proof and admission that governments and their agencies do perform atrocities on their own citizens...even condone them....that should be a real eye opener for those who call folks who knew and believed this to be true, delusional or wing nuts!

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    Have patience with the video, apparently this is only available via the Germans, and the video is in English.




    God this stuff is horrible. It's enough to make you stop the quest and say,,,,I just don't want to know anymore.
    There is a breaking point in one's comfort zone,,,where knowledge is no longer an asset, it's a liability.

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    Nothing much new in this article. What is positive IMO though is that this history is MM.

    Don't think for a doubt that they ever stopped any of this....

    Horrific US Medical Experiments Come to Light


    Feb 27, 2011


    Shocking as it may seem, U.S. government doctors once thought it was fine to experiment on disabled people and prison inmates. Such experiments included giving hepatitis to mental patients in Connecticut, squirting a pandemic flu virus up the noses of prisoners in Maryland, and injecting cancer cells into chronically ill people at a New York hospital.

    Much of this horrific history is 40 to 80 years old, but it is the backdrop for a meeting in Washington this week by a presidential bioethics commission. The meeting was triggered by the government's apology last fall for federal doctors infecting prisoners and mental patients in Guatemala with syphilis 65 years ago.

    U.S. officials also acknowledged there had been dozens of similar experiments in the United States - studies that often involved making healthy people sick.

    An exhaustive review by The Associated Press of medical journal reports and decades-old press clippings found more than 40 such studies. At best, these were a search for lifesaving treatments; at worst, some amounted to curiosity-satisfying experiments that hurt people but provided no useful results......

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    Big Pharma and some of the so called "heros" of modern medicine, may not be that at all....nothing is as it seems....

    Dr. Jonas Salk, inventor of polio vaccine, exposed as criminal-minded scientist who conducted illicit medical experiments on mental patients

    Dr. Jonas Salk, one of the "gods" in the cult of pharmacology -- a man who is credited with inventing the polio vaccine -- has now been exposed as a medical criminal who conducted illegal medical experiments on mental patients. This fact has come to light courtesy of the Associated Press, believe it or not, which has been investigating the history of medical experiments as part of a press effort leading up to scheduled bioethics meetings in Washington.

    According to the Associated Press, Dr. Jonas Salk co-authored a clinical trial that "injected experimental flu vaccine in male patients at a state insane asylum in Ypsilanti, Mich., then exposed them to flu several months later." The victims of this medical experiment were described as "senile and debilitated," meaning that obtaining their rational consent to participate in such experiments would have been impossible. And that means Dr. Jonas Salk -- one of the most highly-worshipped figures throughout modern medicine -- was conducting this trial in violation of medical ethics and in violation of the law.

    Isn't it interesting how the vaccine industry and its medical journal propaganda mouthpieces always hurl accusations at people like Dr. Andrew Wakefield, claiming he violated medical ethics for taking blood samples with consent, but when one of their own heroes gets caught engaging in criminal medical experiments involving the injection of insane mental patients without consent, they have nothing to say about it?

    In the pro-vaccine cult of pharmacology, any researcher who concludes that vaccines are good for you is considered "right" no matter what laws they violate, what victims they kill or what kind of evils they have to commit in order to achieve their fabricated results. The vaccine industry, as we see throughout history, has openly allowed criminal scientists to operate its clinical trials -- even when human victims were maimed or killed in the process. (And not much has changed since, it seems...)

    The Big Lie about the polio vaccine

    This trial involving Dr. Jonas Salk was, not surprisingly, federally funded. And it's just the beginning of the lies and deceptions about Dr Jonas Salk and the polio vaccine. For starters, the polio vaccine was a failure and didn't eradicate polio at all, but we'll save that discussion for another story. Today's topic is illegal medical experiments conducted by mad scientists working for the vaccine and pharmaceutical industries.................

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    I think we'd all go insane if we knew the exact depth of what has been done to humanity. I have said ad naseaum that we are nothing but human guinea pigs, and it really is the truth.
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