The Mayan Calendar - Beyond 2012 - Catastrophe, Ecstacy Or??

[Judee]

Join with others, team up.

Would that it were that easy Div... There are a lot of control freaks; charlatans; those looking for an easy ride; hucksters; outright thieves; etc. out there. I knew a couple who gave up their land to this wonderful, benevolent, caring, 'survival' group who promised the people they would be taken care of. They sure were!!! The couple lost their land, and got nothing...

[Divinorumus]

I don't understand sometimes why it's so hard for people to believe that 'other worldly beings' have visited our little blue planet, or that they are still doing so.

You see, the issue I have with these claims is that are people guessing, merely believing, hoping, wishing, or do they REALLY KNOW because they've REALLY personally met one?

How does one sort through all these b.s. claims when someone says ET has been here and they actually haven't met one? The make-believers and guessers are actually doing a great disservice by confusing this whole subject with disinformation when they say ET exists and are here but they actually never met one.

Oh, and thinking you've seen one doesn't count, such as in ones dreams, in the window, running through the woods, nor suspecting their neighbor is one, or believing the government is working with them, etc. You either KNOW or you DON'T. It's that simple. People, don't lie. You do not know until you do! To say otherwise makes you a liar liar and disinformation agent against truth.

[Divinorumus]

Would that it were that easy Div... There are a lot of control freaks; charlatans; those looking for an easy ride; hucksters; outright thieves; etc. out there.

Do you have relatives, close long time trusted friends, trustworthy neighbors, etc., to team up with out there?

Listen, after the economy collapses and things get bad and you run out of food and everything, I'll come rescue you. Don't give up hope. Look at all this as a fun exhilarating and challenging new kind of game and way of life.

[Judee]

Do you have relatives, close long time trusted friends, trustworthy neighbors, etc., to team up with out there?

Listen, after the economy collapses and things get bad and you run out of food and everything, I'll come rescue you. Don't give up hope. Look at all this as a fun exhilarating and challenging new kind of game and way of life.

Ah shucks Div, you're so sweet. No relatives, neighbors who would pull up their drawbridges and protect themselves first and foremost, and friends who would have their own properties and homes to protect. I'll just do my own little thing and carry on for however long that is should worse come to worse...

[Judee]

You see, the issue I have with these claims is that are people guessing, merely believing, hoping, wishing, or do they REALLY KNOW because they've REALLY personally met one?

How does one sort through all these b.s. claims when someone says ET has been here and they actually haven't met one? The make-believers and guessers are actually doing a great disservice by confusing this whole subject with disinformation when they say ET exists and are here but they actually never met one.

Oh, and thinking you've seen one doesn't count, such as in ones dreams, in the window, running through the woods, nor suspecting their neighbor is one, or believing the government is working with them, etc. You either KNOW or you DON'T. It's that simple. People, don't lie. You do not know until you do! To say otherwise makes you a liar liar and disinformation agent against truth.

My belief that 'aliens' have been here is based on archaeological evidence left by previous civilizations who would have had no reason to try to fool anyone. I do not trust words from the living, but I do trust evidence from the past.

[Alpha]

Secrets of the Mayan Calendar Unveiled

Interesting video by the above title by Ian Zel Lungold, described as:

Ian takes a complex subject such as the Mayan Calendar and makes it very easy to understand on a personal level." He also clearly points ... all » out how the Schedule of Creation can be tracked when one looks at past historical events and relates that information to what to expect in the near future.

Incorporates both history, consciousness, future personal events and how it relates to the calendar....

Duration: 1 hour 59 minutes

Lungold's video and most links have been removed both from GV and YT......

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Interview with Carl Calleman Explains the Ending of the Mayan Calendar on Oct. 28, 2011

The Third day of the Ninth Wave (Universal Underworld)
and the World Oneness Revolution

Practically the whole world strongly experienced the frequency increase associated with the beginning of the Ninth wave (Universal Underworld, Mar 9th, 2011) as this manifested in the earthquake in Japan and the ensuing events. But what is this Ninth wave about? It is easy to see the “chaos” and “catastrophes,” but maybe not so easy to see the overall direction of the process that it carries. I have previously only described the direction of the Ninth wave in very general terms saying that it is about unity consciousness, but exactly what is unity consciousness and how will this manifest through this wave?


To understand this we may begin by studying the Seventh wave that began in 1755 and brought an endarkened unity consciousness to mankind. The Ninth wave also brings a unity consciousness, but one that is enlightened. We have already found a significant parallel between these two waves in that they began with huge Earthquakes, although those as is reasonable, occurred at opposite sides of the Earth, in Lisbon and Japan respectively. Another parallel is that the two waves have started with revolutions to topple existing systems. While the Seventh wave began with the American and French revolutions, whose anti-monarchic nature gradually has spread throughout the world, the revolutions of the Ninth wave have not only rejected monarchic rule, but the phenomenon of dominance and rule over others as such. Thus the Oneness field of consciousness (see below) carried by the Ninth wave will not allow for systems where people give their power away to someone they have elected every four years or so. A deeper freedom based on the sovereignty of all souls is now being called for.


Moreover, the Oneness field of consciousness will not allow for an economic system where the power to print money determines what activities people spend their lives with. The world revolution carried by the Ninth wave potentially develops a much deeper freedom and oneness than either the monarchy of the sixth wave or the democratic institutions of the seventh wave. The driving force behind the world revolution of the ninth wave is the divine guidance that the unity consciousness allows. What is happening in the world today could thus be described equally well in religious/spiritual terms or economic/political. The chief point to realize is that ultimately the course of events, and the breakdown of dominance, is a result of a cosmic plan that has been described by the nine levels of the Mayan calendar with their different polarities (see figure below). Since no human being has any power to change these polarities the overall direction of the cosmic time plan is irreversible.
This consciousness of the Ninth wave was as expected first evident around the midline of the planet at the 12th longitude East between East and West. The opposing polarities of consciousness generated by the 6th and 8th waves led to the collapse of dominance along this line already at the beginning of the seventh day of the Galactic Underworld on November 3, 2010 and two months later the processes surfaced in Tunisia and Egypt. The revolutions there were much aided by the social media networks that had been developed by the Eighth wave, but also showed the emerging role of women and a unity between Muslims and Christians in Egypt where people were singing “we are all one” in Kairo. (That some of this might hve been temporarily reversed does not change the overall direction of where things are going).


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[Dark Skies]

I wonder how many of us would actually be prepared to suddenly be propelled into living like our ancient ancestors. To live without even the basics of decency of something so simple like toilet paper.

hey judee! Hope you don't mind me quoting you from three years ago

To answer your question... not me!!

[Judee]

hey judee! Hope you don't mind me quoting you from three years ago

To answer your question... not me!!

Gee, I said that three years ago? How prophetic!

I grew up with an outhouse and no toilet paper (only the Sears catalog or leaves); no running water (it came from a creek); wood for heat and cooking; bathing in a metal tub in the kitchen; etc. But even though I'd be more prepared than many for going 'back to basics', I sure wouldn't be happy about it!!

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Maya Scholar Deciphers Meaning of Newly Discovered Monument That Refers to 2012 End Date, Many Images


Friday, June 29, 2012

Panel referring to date of December 21, 2012

Credit: University of Texas

A publishing and entertainment empire has arisen around the supposed Mayan “end date” of December 21, 2012. But a second reference to the date, discovered only recently in Guatemala by a team including UT’s David Stuart, further debunks the theory that the Maya expected the world to end. In this slideshow, including images from National Geographic, see the discovery at La Corona and read how the Maya used the date simply as “a literary device.”
(Complete set of slides here: www.utexas.edu/know/2012/06/28/la-corona/)

Archaeologists working in the jungles of Guatemala have discovered an ancient Maya text that refers to the so-called end date of the Maya calendar, Dec. 21, 2012. The hieroglyphic inscription was unearthed in April at the ruins of La Corona, located in the dense rainforest of northwestern Guatemala, and deciphered by David Stuart of The University of Texas at Austin during his research at the site in May.

The text is one of many found this year by an international team led by archaeologists from Tulane University and the Universidad del Valle de Guatemala. Among their discoveries are portions of the longest text ever discovered in Guatemala, carved on multiple staircase steps and recording 200 years of La Corona’s history, now being closely studied by Stuart and his colleagues. The discovery, perhaps the most significant hieroglyphic find in decades, was announced at a news conference held this morning at the National Palace in Guatemala City.

The stone referring to the year 2012 was carved to commemorate a royal visit to La Corona (which the ancient Maya called Saknikte’) by the ruler Yuknoom Yich’aak K’ahk’ from the great Maya capital of Calakmul on Jan. 29, 696 A.D. Before the discovery, this ruler was thought by scholars to have been killed in battle, when Calakmul was defeated by its great rival, Tikal. But the new find makes it clear that Yuknoom Yich’aak K’ahk’ was visiting allies — such as La Corona — in the wake of this defeat, possibly soothing their fears after such a significant military loss.

Why the reference to the year 2012? “The reason mostly has to do with the cosmological dimensions of ancient Maya politics and kingship,” says Stuart. “Calakmul’s king had only recently celebrated an important ending of 13 K’atun calendar cycle, in the year 692 (9.13.0.0.0), and in this text he is called a “13 K’atun lord.” The scribe has used this important ritual fact to project forward to when the next higher period of the Maya calendar will also reach 13 — a sacred Maya number — which will come on Dec. 21, 2012 (13.0.0.0.0).”

It is in this context that we have only the second reference to the “end date” in the entire corpus of ancient Maya writing, according to Stuart. This text uses the 2012 date to put this king’s troubled reign and accomplishments into a larger cosmological framework

Marcello Canuto (Tulane University) and UT Professor David Stuart.

Credit: University of Texas

“This new evidence suggests that the 2012 date was an important calendrical event that would have been celebrated by the ancient Maya; however, they make no apocalyptic prophecies about it whatsoever,” says Marcello Canuto, director of Tulane’s Middle American Research Institute and co-director of the excavations at La Corona. Since 2008, Canuto and Tomás Barrientos of the Universidad del Valle de Guatemala, have directed excavations at La Corona. Stuart was part of a 1997 expedition that first explored and documented the ruins, when he named it La Corona (“The Crown”) after a distinctive building seen in the forest there — a line of five closely spaced small pyramids.

Stuart’s decipherments at La Corona come shortly after another significant find announced earlier this year — the discovery of a painted structure at the ruins of Xultun, Guatemala, containing what is thought to be the work space of a scribe or calendar priest. Stuart collaborated with William Saturno of Boston University, who directs the Xultun excavations, to decipher the unique paintings found on the walls of the small structure.

“I was at the ruins of Xultun when the paintings were initially discovered in 2010 and also during spring break this year,” Stuart says. “As the paintings were being uncovered in 2011, I was sent scans and photographs of the images and began deciphering the mathematical and astronomical tables last summer.”

The structure is covered with tiny red and black numbers and hieroglyphs, unlike any seen before at other Maya sites. These appear to be notations, written by the scribes as they were working and carrying out calendrical calculations, similar to a modern mathematician’s office whiteboard. Some numbers appear to represent the various calendrical cycles charted by the Maya — the 260-day ceremonial calendar, the 365-day solar calendar, the 584-day cycle of the planet Venus and the 780-day cycle of Mars, reports lead excavator Saturno. Saturno and Stuart reported their findings in a paper they co-authored for the journal Science titled, ”Ancient Maya Astronomical Tables from Xultun, Guatemala.”

Stuart’s main contribution was to read and reconstruct the numbers, many of which were poorly preserved. He also identified the nature of the tables as ancient tools for calendrical calculations, including lunar cycles. Finally, he carefully copied the texts so colleagues and future scholars can also study them. His field time in March involved working directly with the paintings and texts before they were closed and eventually reburied — the best means of ensuring their preservation in the remote jungle.

David Stuart and Marcello Canuto examining looted panels.

Credit: University of Texa

“It was incredible being in an ancient room where scribes and calendar priests were once working on their calculations, perhaps even discussing them,” says Stuart. “The day after I reconstructed the very damaged lunar table from Xultun, I shared the exciting news with undergrads who were in the UT study abroad program in Antigua, Guatemala.

“As a fun exercise, I had the students figure out the how the ancient Maya would have written each column in the table, using bars and dots. On the whiteboard in our classroom we wrote the table as it would have originally looked — 27 columns of Maya numbers. It was the first time it had ever been reconstructed visually, and it was a really special moment.”

Stuart is the David and Linda Schele Professor of Mesoamerican Art and Writing at The University of Texas at Austin. He is the author of the popular book on the Maya calendar, “The Order of Days: The Maya World and the Truth about 2012.” Stuart’s research is supported by the Schele research fund from the College of Fine Arts at The University of Texas at Austin and through the Casa Herrera research facility in Guatemala, where he does much of his work throughout the year.

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Story By Paola Bueche, College of Fine Arts
University of Texas Austin


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[Dera]

An ancient Maya text has emerged from the jungles of Guatemala confirming the so-called "end date" of the Maya calendar, Dec. 21, 2012.


Considered one of the most significant hieroglyphic finds in decades, the 1,300-year-old inscription contains only the second known reference to the "end date," but does not predict doomsday.

"The text talks about ancient political history rather than prophecy," Marcello A. Canuto, director of Tulane University's Middle American Research Institute, said.

Carved on a stone staircase, the inscription was found at the ruins of La Corona, in the dense rainforest of northwestern Guatemala, by an international team of archaeologists led by Canuto and colleague Tomás Barrientos of the Universidad del Valle de Guatemala.

More: http://news.discovery.com/history/ma...te-120629.html

[Judee]

Maya demand an end to doomsday myth
October 25th, 2012 in Other Sciences / Archaeology & Fossils

Guatemala's Mayan people accused the government and tour groups on Wednesday of perpetuating the myth that their calendar foresees the imminent end of the world for monetary gain.

"We are speaking out against deceit, lies and twisting of the truth, and turning us into folklore-for-profit. They are not telling the truth about time cycles," charged Felipe Gomez, leader of the Maya alliance Oxlaljuj Ajpop.

Several films and documentaries have promoted the idea that the ancient Mayan calendar predicts that doomsday is less than two months away, on December 21, 2012.

The Culture Ministry is hosting a massive event in Guatemala City—which as many as 90,000 people are expected to attend—just in case the world actually does end, while tour groups are promoting doomsday-themed getaways.

Maya leader Gomez urged the Tourism Institute to rethink the doomsday celebration, which he criticized as a "show" that was disrespectful to Mayan culture.

Experts say that for the Maya, all that ends in 2012 is one of their calendar cycles, not the world.

Gomez's group issued a statement saying that the new Maya time cycle simply "means there will be big changes on the personal, family and community level, so that there is harmony and balance between mankind and nature."

Oxlajuj Ajpop is holding events it considers sacred in five cities to mark the event and Gomez said the Culture Ministry would be wise to throw its support behind their real celebrations.

More than half of Guatemala's population of nearly 15 million are from indigenous groups of Mayan descent.

The Mayan calendar has 18 months of 20 days each plus a sacred month, "Wayeb," of five days. "B'aktun" is the larget unit in the time cycle system, and is about 400 years. The broader era spans 13 B'aktun, or about 5,200 years.

The Mayan culture enjoyed a golden age between 250 AD and 900 AD.

"Maya demand an end to doomsday myth." October 25th, 2012. http://phys.org/news/2012-10-maya-de...sday-myth.html

[Dera]

Great find, Judee! With less than two months until Doomsday of 12-21-12 supposedly, that is comforting info
Yea! Go Mayans. Here's to you, Felix Gomez! champagne or wine.gif

Gomez's group issued a statement saying that the new Maya time cycle simply "means there will be big changes on the personal, family and community level, so that there is harmony and balance between mankind and nature."

Cool, huh? Lord knows we could use some "harmony and balance between mankind and nature" these days!

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-10-maya-de...-myth.html#jCp

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