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    Vaccines - Are they Necessary? - Should they be Mandatory?

    Browsing around this morning I found two articles related to the topic of vaccines.

    Personally I have always been very suspicious of the need for some vaccines, specifically the recent recommendation of the so called "Flu Shot"

    Then there are those mandatory vaccines that all children now and decades ago were required to take, otherwise they would not be allowed in to the school system etc.

    Now I read this!!!!

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    Drug firm pushes vaccine mandate

    From: The Baltimore Sun

    Just a few months after federal regulators approved a vaccine against a sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer, more than a dozen states - including Maryland - are considering a requirement that girls entering middle school get it.

    One of the primary drivers behind the legislative push: Merck & Co., the pharmaceutical giant that manufactures Gardasil, the only vaccine for human papillomavirus, or HPV, on the market.

    The vaccine is expected to reach $1 billion in sales next year, and state mandates could make Gardasil a mega-blockbuster drug within five years, with sales of more than $4 billion, according to Wall Street analysts.

    Merck, which has been arming its lobbyists across the country with information on the vaccine, has been getting an assist from Women in Government, a nonpartisan organization of female legislators whose agenda includes cervical cancer prevention. The group, like breast-cancer activists before it, works through political channels. It also takes corporate donations from Merck.

    But some medical experts say lawmakers are moving too fast in their efforts to vaccinate all school-age girls. The American Academy of Pediatrics, for instance, is urging a go-slow approach, with an initial focus on raising public awareness of HPV and more monitoring of the safety of the vaccine, which had minimal side effects in clinical trials but hasn't been observed in larger-scale rollouts.

    "A lot of us are worried it's a little early to be pushing a mandated HPV vaccine," said Dr. Martin Myers, director of the National Network for Immunization Information. "It's not that I'm not wildly enthusiastic about this vaccine. I am. But many of us are concerned a mandate may be premature, and it's important for people to realize that this isn't as clear-cut as with some previous vaccines."

    He added, "It's not the vaccine community pushing for this."

    Lawmakers and other backers of widespread vaccination say cervical cancer - like the measles and other childhood diseases - could be largely eradicated in the United States, and Gardasil has been widely hailed as a medical breakthrough with enormous potential. Cervical cancer is the second leading cancer killer of women worldwide.

    State legislatures that are considering requirements for school-age girls to be vaccinated against HPV include California, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, New Jersey, Texas and Virginia, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    In addition to vaccination mandates, Merck supports measures that would require private insurers and Medicaid to cover the cost of the vaccine, which has a retail price of $120 per dose, or $360 for the full, three-shot series.

    The company also backs increased funding for government programs that help defray costs for low-income or uninsured children, such as the Maryland Children's Health Program.

    The company has not only dispatched lobbyists but medical experts to speak with groups that request information, spokeswoman Jennifer Allen said, including social conservatives who oppose mandates.

    "Our goal is to support state efforts to implement policies to ensure Gardasil is used to achieve what it was designed to do, and that's to reduce cervical cancer and other HPV-related diseases," she said. "It's a public health goal that every one has."

    The measure in Maryland, introduced by state Sen. Delores G. Kelley, a Baltimore County Democrat, would require all sixth-grade girls to be vaccinated by September 2008. Del. Adrienne A. Jones, also a Baltimore County Democrat, said she plans to file a companion bill in the House of Delegates.

    "Cervical cancer is a terrible disease, and nobody should have to suffer that way," Kelley said. "And we can help stop it."

    As for calls to hold off on a school mandate, she said: "The point is the FDA [Food and Drug Administration] has approved the vaccine, and that's the standard in America." She added that if parents object to the vaccine, the state allows exemptions on religious and medical grounds for all childhood vaccinations.

    The issue came to Kelley's attention, she said, through contacts with Women in Government. The nonprofit group was formed in the late 1980s as an educational association for elected women in state government, and later joined forces with the Legislative Business Roundtable, a group of business leaders.

    The organization holds forums and provides educational resources to legislators. One of its early cervical cancer initiatives was to advocate for legislation to ensure insurance companies covered the cost of HPV tests. Such a bill passed the Maryland General Assembly in 2005.

    Digene Corp., a Gaithersburg company, makes the only HPV test approved by the FDA. It's also a corporate donor to Women in Government.

    Similarly, Merck is the only maker of an HPV vaccine.

    Susan Crosby, president of Women in Government, which advocates school requirements for the vaccine, said Merck is an information resource and provides "unrestricted" grants so that her group determines the content of educational efforts. The group doesn't disclose details about its corporate funding.

    "They've got their own marketing team," Crosby said of Merck. "We don't go hand-in-hand with a lobbyist to talk to a legislator."

    But some critics say the arrangement enables Merck to promote its products to lawmakers through a seemingly unbiased third party.

    "This is a time-honored practice for companies to underwrite these things so that they're basically buying platforms," said Bruce F. Freed, co-director of the Center for Political Accountability, which advocates transparency for corporate political activity. "Merck and Big Pharma are doing this the way Big Tobacco has done it for years."

    Groups such as the Maryland Family Protection Lobby also took issue with Merck's lobbying.

    "If Merck wants to come up with a drug and advertise it, and people want to buy it, that's fine. I'm for capitalism," said Doug Stiegler, executive director of the group. "What I don't want is for Merck to come to the state and say we want to make millions of dollars from this, and we want you to mandate this for every schoolgirl who comes down the pike."

    Stiegler joins groups such as Focus on the Family, a politically active Christian organization, in opposing the mandate on the grounds that parents, not the government, should make such decisions. Some parents, they say, may prefer their children practice abstinence and fear that the vaccine could promote promiscuity.

    Legislators in Maryland say they are motivated to improve public health, not by corporate interests. Neither Kelley nor Jones, the main sponsors for the legislation, said they have spoken to Merck representatives.

    The bill has more than 20 co-sponsors in the Maryland Senate, or nearly half the chamber, including Sen. Edward J. Kasemeyer, the majority leader and a Democrat representing Baltimore and Howard counties. He is married to one of Merck's Annapolis lobbyists, Pamela M. Kasemeyer, who said she is not working on the HPV-vaccine issue for the company. Both say they don't discuss work at home.

    After 15 years of research at Merck, the FDA approved Gardasil for sale last June. Within weeks, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended that the vaccine be given routinely to girls ages 11 to 12, who number about 160,000 in Maryland. The CDC did not take a position on whether the vaccination should be required by law.

    By November, Merck had begun a national advertising blitz. The slogan for the new "One Less" campaign: "You could be one less life affected by cervical cancer."

    Clinical trials with about 20,000 women showed Gardasil to be effective in preventing four strains of HPV that are linked to 70 percent of cervical cancer cases and 90 percent of genital warts cases.

    Cervical cancer afflicts about 10,000 women and kills 3,700 in the United States each year. Minorities are disproportionately affected, with African-American women nearly twice as likely as white women to die from the disease.

    At a Wall Street briefing last month, Peter Loescher, president of global human health at Merck, said he emphasizes "speed, speed, speed" in a product launch. Already, he noted, 80 percent of cities and states - including Maryland - have ordered Gardasil to be distributed through Vaccines for Children. The federally funded program provides free vaccines to doctors who serve children with little or no insurance.

    Richard T. Clark, Merck's CEO who attended the briefing, said Gardasil's launch has "exceeded expectations" and that the company is seeing "strong U.S. sales right out of the gate."

    "Every time I talk about Gardasil, I am reminded of the deep sense of satisfaction all of us at Merck feel by contributing to such an important development in women's health," Clark said.

    Raymond James analyst Michael Krensavage said: "It takes ice-breaking to sell a new product, so that's what Merck is doing."

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    Rather than teaching our young woman responsible sexuality, then now want to make this mandatory!?!?!? : What are they really up to....both the PTB and the pharmaceutical cartel?

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    Why You Should Avoid Taking Vaccines

    Dr. James Howenstine, MD.

    From: Natural Health

    Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National institute of health declared, "the only safe vaccine is one that is never used."

    Cowpox vaccine was believed able to immunize people against smallpox. At the time this vaccine was introduced, there was already a decline in the number of cases of smallpox. Japan introduced compulsory vaccination in 1872. In 1892 there were 165,774 cases of smallpox with 29,979 deaths despite the vaccination program. A stringent compulsory smallpox vaccine program, which prosecuted those refusing the vaccine, was instituted in England in 1867. Within 4 years 97.5 % of persons between 2 and 50 had been vaccinated. The following year England experienced the worst smallpox epidemic[1] in its history with 44,840 deaths. Between 1871 and 1880 the incidence of smallpox escalated from 28 to 46 per 100,000. The smallpox vaccine does not work.

    Much of the success attributed to vaccination programs may actually have been due to improvement in public health related to water quality and sanitation, less crowded living conditions, better nutrition, and higher standards of living. Typically the incidence of a disease was clearly declining before the vaccine for that disease was introduced. In England the incidence of polio had decreased by 82 % before the polio vaccine was introduced in 1956.

    In the early 1900s an astute Indiana physician, Dr. W.B. Clarke, stated "Cancer was practically unknown until compulsory vaccination with cowpox vaccine began to be introduced. I have had to deal with two hundred cases of cancer, and I never saw a case of cancer in an un-vaccinated [2] person."

    There is a widely held belief that vaccines should not be criticized because the public might refuse to take them. This is valid only if the benefits exceed the known risks of the vaccines.

    Do Vaccines Actually Prevent Disease?


    This important question does not appear to have ever been adequately studied. Vaccines are enormously profitable for drug companies and recent legislation in the U.S. has exempted lawsuits against pharmaceutical firms in the event of adverse reactions to vaccines which are very common. In 1975 Germany stopped requiring pertussis (whooping cough) vaccination. Today less than 10 % of German children are vaccinated against pertussis. The number of cases of pertussis has steadily decreased[3] even though far fewer children are receiving pertussis vaccine.

    Measles outbreaks have occurred in schools with vaccination rates over 98 % in all parts of the U.S. including areas that had reported no cases of measles for years. As measles immunization rates rise to high levels measles becomes a disease seen only in vaccinated persons. An outbreak of measles occurred in a school where 100 % of the children had been vaccinated. Measles mortality rates had declined by 97 % in England before measles vaccination was instituted.

    In 1986 there were 1300 cases of pertussis in Kansas and 90 % of these cases occurred in children who had been adequately vaccinated. Similar vaccine failures have been reported from Nova Scotia where pertussis continues to be occurring despite universal vaccination. Pertussis remains endemic[4] in the Netherlands where for more than 20 years 96 % of children have received 3 pertussis shots by age 12 months.

    After institution of diphtheria vaccination in England and Wales in 1894 the number of deaths from diphtheria rose by 20 % in the subsequent 15 years. Germany had compulsory vaccination in 1939. The rate of diphtheria spiraled to 150,000 cases that year whereas, Norway which did not have compulsory vaccination, had only 50 cases of diphtheria the same year.

    The continued presence of these infectious diseases in children who have received vaccines proves that life long immunity which follows natural infection does not occur in persons receiving vaccines. The injection process places the viral particles into the blood without providing any clear way to eliminate these foreign substances.

    Why Do Vaccines Fail To Protect Against Diseases?

    Walene James, author of Immunization: the Reality Behind The Myth, states that the full[5] inflammatory response is necessary to create real immunity. Prior to the introduction of measles and mumps vaccines children got measles and mumps and in the great majority of cases these diseases were benign. Vaccines "trick" the body so it does not mount a complete inflammatory response to the injected virus.

    Vaccines and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome SIDS

    The incidence of Sudden Infant Death syndrome SIDS has grown from .55 per 1000 live births in 1953 to 12.8 per 1000 in 1992 in Olmstead County, Minnesota. The peak incidence for SIDS is age 2 to 4 months the exact time most vaccines are being given to children. 85 % of cases of SIDS occur in the first 6 months of infancy. The increase in SIDS as a percentage of total infant deaths has risen from 2.5 per 1000 in 1953 to 17.9 per 1000 in 1992. This rise in SIDS deaths has occurred during a period when nearly every childhood disease was declining due to improved sanitation and medical progress except SIDS. These deaths from SIDS did increase during a period when the number of vaccines given a child was steadily rising to 36 per child.

    Dr. W. Torch was able to document 12 deaths in infants which appeared within 3½ and 19 hours of a DPT immunization. He later reported 11 new cases of SIDS death and one near miss which had occurred within 24 hours of a DPT injection. When he studied 70 cases of SIDS two thirds of these victims[6] had been vaccinated from one half day to 3 weeks prior to their deaths. None of these deaths was attributed to vaccines. Vaccines are a sacred cow and nothing against them appears in the mass media because they are so profitable to pharmaceutical firms.

    There is valid reason to think that not only are vaccines worthless in preventing disease they are counterproductive because they injure the immune system permitting cancer, auto-immune diseases and SIDS to cause much disability and death.

    Are Vaccines Sterile?

    Dr. Robert Strecker claimed that the department of defense DOD was given $10,000,000 in 1969 to create the AIDS virus to be used as a population-reducing[7] weapon against blacks. By use of the Freedom of Information Act Dr. Strecker was able to learn that the DOD secured funds from Congress to perform studies on immune destroying agents for germ warfare.

    Once produced, the vaccine was given in two locations. Smallpox vaccine containing HIV was given to 100,000,000 Africans in 1977. Over 2000 young white homosexual males in New York City were given Hepatitis B vaccine that contained HIV virus in 1978. This vaccine was given at New York City Blood Center. The Hepatitis B vaccine containing the HIV virus was also administered to homosexual males in San Francisco, Los Angeles, St.Louis, Houston and Chicago in 1978 and 1979. U.S. Public Health epidemiology studies have disclosed that these same 6 cities had the highest incidence of AIDS, Aids related Complex (ARC) and deaths rates from HIV, when compared to other U.S. cities.

    When a new virus is introduced into a community. It takes 20 years for the number of cases to double. If the fabricated story that green monkey bites of pygmies led to the HIV epidemic, the alleged monkey bites in the 1940s should have produced a peak in the incidence of HIV in the 1960s at which time HIV was non existent in Africa. The World Health Organization (WHO) began a African smallpox vaccination campaign in 1977 that targeted urban population centers and avoided pygmies. If the green monkey bites of pygmies truly caused the HIV epidemic the incidence of HIV in pygmies should have been higher than in urban citizens. However, the opposite was true.

    In 1954 Dr. Bernice Eddy (bacteriologist) discovered live monkey viruses in supposedly sterile inactivated polio vaccine[8] developed by Dr. Jonas Salk. This discovery was not well received at the NIH and Dr. Eddy was demoted. Later Dr. Eddy, working with Sarah Stewart, discovered SE polyoma virus. This virus was quite important because it caused cancer in every animal receiving it. Yellow fever vaccine had previously been found to contain avian (bird) leukemia virus. Later Dr. Hilleman isolated SV 40 virus from both the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines. There were 40 different viruses[9] in these polio vaccines they were trying to eradicate. They were never able to get rid of these viruses ontaminating the polio vaccines. The SV 40 virus causes malignancies. It has now been identified in 43 % of cases of non-Hodgekin lymphoma[10] , 36 % of brain tumors[11] , 18 % of healthy blood samples, and 22 % of healthy semen samples, mesothiolomas and other malignancies. By the time of this discovery SV 40 had already been injected into 10,000,000 people in Salk vaccine. Gastric digestion inactivtes some of SV 40 in Sabin vaccine. However, the isolation of strains of Sabin polio vaccine from all 38 cases of Guillan Barre Syndrome[12] GBS in Brazil suggests that significant numbers of persons are able to be infected from this vaccine. All 38 of these patients had received Sabin polio vaccine months to years before the onset of GBS. The incidence of non-Hodgekin lymphoma has"mysteriouly" doubled since the 1970s.

    Dr. John Martin, Professor of Pathology at the Univ. of Southern California, was employed by the Viral Oncology Branch of the Bureau of Biologics (FDA) from 1976 to 1980. While employed there he identified foreign DNA in the live polio vaccine Orimune Lederle that suggested serious vaccine contamination. He warned his supervisors about this problem and was told to discontinue his work as it was outside the scope of testing required for polio vaccine.

    Later Dr. Martin learned that all eleven of the African green monkeys used to grow the Lederle polio virus Orimune had grown simian cytomegalovirus from kidney cell cultures. Lederle was aware of this viral contamination as their Cytomegaloviral Contamination Plan[13] clearly showed in 1972. The Bureau of Biologics decided not to pursue the matter so production of infected polio vaccine continued.

    In 1955 Dr. Martin identified unique cell destroying viruses termed stealth viruses in patients with chronic fatigue syndrome. These viruses lacked genes that would enable the immune system to recognize them. Thus they were protected by the body's failure to develop antiviral antibodies. In March of 1995, Dr. Martin learned that some of these stealth viruses had originated from African green monkey simian cytomegalovirus of a type known to infect man.

    The Lederle vaccine experience suggests that the higher-ups are not concerned about sloppy and dangerous preparation of vaccines. Animal cross infection is a huge unsolved current problem for all vaccine manufacturing. If this vaccine production sounds like an unbelievable mess to you, you are right.

    The influential Club of Rome has a position paper in which they state that the world population is too large and needs to be reduced by 90 %. This means that 6 billion people must be reduced to 500 to 600 million. Obviously, creating famines and genocidal wars such as wrecked havoc in Africa, and loosing new laboratory-created diseases (HIV, Ebola, Marburg[14] , and probably West Nile virus and SARS) can help reduce the population. Other elitist groups (Trilaterals, Bildenbergers) have expressed similar concerns about excess people on planet Earth.

    The company that was projected to produce the new smallpox vaccine in the U.S. was in serious trouble in England because of unsatisfactory quality of operations before setting up their facility in the U.S. Why would their performance here be any better than it was in England?

    If there are important powerful groups of people that are determined to reduce the world population, what could be a more diabolically clever way to eliminate people than to inject them with a cancer-causing vaccine? The person receiving the injection would never suspect that the vaccine taken 10 to 15 years earlier had caused the cancer to appear.

    Other Dangers From Vaccines

    In the March 4, 1977 issue of Science Jonas and Darrell Salk warn, "Live virus vaccines against influenza or poliomyelitis may in each instance produce the disease it intended to prevent. The live virus against measles and mumps may produce such side effects as encephalitis (brain damage).

    The swine flu vaccine was administered to the American public even though there had never been a case of swine flu identified in a human. Farmers refused to use the vaccine because it killed too many animals. Within a few months of use in humans this vaccine caused many cases of serious nerve injury (Guillan Barre syndrome).

    An article in the Washington Post on Jan. 26, 1988 mentioned that all cases of polio since 1979 had been caused by the polio vaccine with no known cases of polio from a wild strain since 1979. This might have created a perfect situation to discontinue the vaccine, but the vaccine is still given. Vaccines are a wonderful source of profits with no risks to the drug companies since vaccine injuries are now recompensed by the government.

    The steady escalation in the number of vaccines administered has been followed by an identical rise in the incidence of auto-immune diseases (rheumatoid arthritis, subacute lupus erythematosus, psoriasis, multiple sclerosis, asthma) seen in children. While there is a genetic transmission of some of these diseases many are probably due to the injury from foreign protein particles, mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde and other toxic agents injected in vaccines.

    In 1999, the rotavirus vaccine was recommended by the Center for Disease Control for all infants. When this vaccine program was instituted several infants died and many had life endangering bowel obstructions. Prelicensure trials[15] of the rotavirus vaccine had demonstrated an increased incidence of intussusception 30 times greater than normal but the vaccine was released anyway without special warnings to practitioners to be on the lookout for bowel problems. Children's vaccines are often not studied for toxicity possibly because such study might eliminate them from being used.

    A large study from Australia showed that the risk of developing encephalitis from the pertussis vaccine was 5 times greater than the risk of developing encephalitis by contacting pertussis by natural methods.

    Naturally acquired immunity by illness evolves by spread of a virus from the respiratory tract to the liver, thymus, spleen, and bone marrow. When symptoms begin, the entire immune response has been mobilized to repel the invading virus. This complex immune system response creates antibodies that confer life long immunity against that invading virus and prepares the child to respond promptly to an infection by the same virus in the future.

    Vaccination, in contrast, results in the persisting of live virus or other foreign antigens within the cells of the body, a situation that may provoke auto-immune reactions as the body attempts to destroy its own infected cells. There is no surprise that the incidence of auto-immune diseases (rheumatoid arthritis, subacute lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, asthma, psoriasis) has risen sharply in this era of multiple vaccine immunization.

    Vaccine Induced Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus

    Dr. John Classen has published 29 articles on vaccine-induced[16] diabetes. At least 8 of 10 children with Type 1 (insulin needing) diabetes have this disease as a result of vaccination. These children may have avoided measles, mumps, and whooping cough but they have received something far worse: an illness that shortens life expectancy by 10 to 15 years and results in a life requiring constant medical care.

    Dr. Classen has shown in Finland, the introduction of hemophilus type b vaccine caused three times as many cases of type 1 diabetes as the number of deaths and brain damage from hemophilus influenza type b it might have prevented.

    In New Zealand, the incidence of Type 1 diabetes in children rose by 61 % after an aggressive vaccine program against hepatitis B.. This same program has been started in the U.S.A. so we can now look forward to many cases of Type 1 diabetes in children. Similar rises in Type 1 diabetes have been seen in England, Italy, Sweden, and Denmark after immunization programs against Hepatitis B.

    Toxic Substances Are Needed To Make Vaccines.

    Vaccines contain many toxic substances that are needed to prevent the vaccines from becoming infected or to improve the performance of the vaccine. Among these substances are mercury, formaldehyde and aluminum.[17]

    In the past 10 years, the number of autistic children has risen from between 200 and 500 percent in every state in the U.S. This sharp rise in autism followed the introduction of measles, mumps and rubella vaccine in 1975.

    Representative Dan Burton's healthy grandson was given injections for 9 diseases in one day. These injections were instantly followed by autism. These injections contain a preservative of mercury called thimerosal. The boy received 41 times the amount of mercury which is capable of harm to the body. Mercury is a neurotoxin that can injure the brain and nervous system. And tragically, it did.

    In the United States the number of compulsory vaccine injections has increased from 10 to 36 in the last 25 years. During this period, there has been a simultaneous increase in the number of children suffering learning disabilities and attention deficit disorder. Some of these childhood disabilities are related to intrauterine cerebral damage from maternal cocaine use, but probably vaccines cause many of the others.

    Many vaccines contain aluminum. A new disease called macrophagic myofasciitis causes pain in muscles, bones and joints. All persons with this disease have received aluminum containing vaccines. Deposits of aluminum are able to remain as an irritant in tissues and disturb the immune and nervous system for a lifetime.

    Nearly all vaccines contain aluminum and mercury. These metals appear to play an important role in the etiology of Alzheimer's Disease. An expert at the 1997 International Vaccine Conference related that a person who takes 5 or more annual flu vaccine shots has increased the likelihood of developing Alzheimer's Disease by a factor of 10 over the person who has had 2 or fewer flu shots.

    When we take vaccines we are playing a modern version of Russian Roulette. We not only get exposed to aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde and foreign cell proteins but we may get simian virus 40 and other dangerous viruses which can cause cancer, leukemia and other severe health problems because the vaccine pool is contaminated due to careless animal isolation techniques. Congress has protected the manufacturers from lawsuits, so dangerous vaccines simply increase profits at no risk to the drug companies.

    U.S. children aged 2 months began receiving hepatitis B vaccine in December 2000.No peer-reviewed studies of the safety of hepatitis B in this age bracket had been done. Over 36,000 adverse reactions with 440 deaths were soon reported but the true incidence is much higher as reporting is voluntary so only approximately 10 % of adverse reactions get reported. This means that about 5000 infants are dying annually from the hepatitis B vaccine. The CDC's Chief of Epidemiology admits that the frequency of serious reactions to hepatitis B vaccine is 10 times higher than other vaccines. Hepatitis B is transmitted sexually and by contaminated blood, so the incidence of this disease must be near zero in this age bracket. A vaccine expert, Dr. Philip Incao, states that "the conclusion is obvious that the risks[18] of hepatitis B vaccination far outweigh the benefits. Once a vaccine is mandated the vaccine manufacturer is no longer liable for adverse reactions.

    Dr. W.B. Clarke's important observation that cancer was not found in unvaccinated individuals demands an explanation and one now appears forthcoming. All vaccines given over a short period of time to an immature immune system deplete the thymus gland (the primary gland involved in immune reactions) of irreplaceable immature immune cells. Each of these cells could have multiplied and developed into an army of valuable cells to combat infection and growth of abnormal cells. When these immune cells have been used up, permanent immunity may not appear. The Arthur Research Foundation in Tucson, Arizona estimates that up to 60 % of our immune system may be exhausted[19] by multiple mass vaccines (36 are now required for children). Only 10 % of immune cells are permanently lost when a child is permitted to develop natural immunity from disease. There needs to be grave concern about these immune system injuring vaccinations! Could the persons who approve these mass vaccinations know that they are impairing the health of these children, many of whom are being doomed to requiring much medical care in the future?

    Compelling evidence is available that the development of the immune system after contracting the usual childhood diseases matures and renders it capable to fight infection and malignant cells in the future.

    The use of multiple vaccines, which prevents natural immunity, promotes the development of allergies and asthma. A New Zealand study disclosed that 23 % of vaccinated children develop asthma , as compared to zero in unvaccinated children.

    Cancer was a very rare illness in the 1890's. This evidence about immune system injury from vaccinating affords a plausible explanation for Dr. Clarke's finding that only vaccinated individuals got cancer. Some radical adverse change in health occurred in the early 1900s to permit cancer to explode and vaccinating appears to be the reason.

    Vaccines are an unnatural phenomena. My guess is that if enough persons said no to immunizations there would be a striking improvement in general health with nature back in the immunizing business instead of man. Having a child vaccinated should be a choice not a requirement. Medical and religious exemptions are permitted by most states.

    When governmental policies require vaccinations before children enter schools coercion has overruled the lack of evidence of vaccine efficacy and safety. There is no proof that vaccines work and they are never studied for safety before release. My opinion is that there is overwhelming evidence that vaccines are dangerous and the only reason for their existence is to increase profits of pharmaceutical firms.

    If you are forced to immunize your children so they can enter school, obtain a notarized statement from the director of the facility that they will accept full financial responsibility for any adverse reaction from the vaccine. Since there is at least a 2 percent risk of a serious adverse reaction they may be smart enough to permit your child to escape a dangerous procedure. Recent legislation passed by Congress gives the government the power to imprison persons refusing to take vaccines (smallpox, anthrax, etc). This would be troublesome to enforce if large numbers of citizens declined to be vaccinated at the same time.
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    What do you think?

    Do you get the flu shot?

    Would you vote for mandatory vaccination of young women?

    What is the real MO behind vaccinations?

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    Alpha,

    This is a subject near and dear to me... I have been debating vaccination ever since my son was born. Do you know about www.thinktwice.com? It gives a tremendous amount of info and if you look to the right and scroll down, you'll see a link that discusses the flu vaccine.

    I opted not to give my son any vaccines until his immune system was more built up - and even then, only the most crucial vaccines, such as tetanus. To date, he has only had one injection (and that only last month).

    I'm going to do more research and limit his exposure as much as possible.

    Great subject!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha
    Do you get the flu shot?
    Nope

    Would you vote for mandatory vaccination of young women?
    Not just no, but no!
    There is no way that it is even remotely justifiable to force our girls into becoming compulsory lab rats!

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    From the sci.life-extension newsgroup:
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    More facts about cervical cancer and the vaccine Gardisil.

    - About 20 million people have been exposed to strains of HPV virus in
    the USA
    - 1 in 40,000 US women die of cervical cancer each year (about the
    same number as die of choking on food)
    - 1/3 of all cervical cancer deaths are caused by factors NOT related
    to HPV (ie. the vaccine would not have helped)
    - FDA says the vaccine may not protect people already infected
    - FDA says the vaccine may increase the risk of the kind of lesions
    that actually LEAD to cervical cancer
    - CDC states that "there does not appear to be serious side effects so
    far" (meaning they don't know)
    - Gov. Rick Perry received money from Merck for his reelection
    campaign in Texas
    - Perry's former Chief of Staff, Mike Toomey, is one of Merck's most
    powerful lobbyists for the state of Texas
    - There are no studies proving that Gardasil reduces cases of cervical
    cancer in women because they don't exist
    - A study on the effect of vaccine against HPV is simply not good
    enough to direct public health policy
    - The drug costs $360 per patient, and based on the foregoing, this is
    just another marketing scam by Merck
    - If this is what your "health agency" bureacrats like to call
    "evidence based medicine," tell them "no thanks."

    PeterB
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    Quote Originally Posted by lastconundrum View Post
    From the sci.life-extension newsgroup:
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    More facts about cervical cancer and the vaccine Gardisil.

    - About 20 million people have been exposed to strains of HPV virus in
    the USA
    - 1 in 40,000 US women die of cervical cancer each year (about the
    same number as die of choking on food)
    - 1/3 of all cervical cancer deaths are caused by factors NOT related
    to HPV (ie. the vaccine would not have helped)
    - FDA says the vaccine may not protect people already infected
    - FDA says the vaccine may increase the risk of the kind of lesions
    that actually LEAD to cervical cancer
    - CDC states that "there does not appear to be serious side effects so
    far" (meaning they don't know)
    - Gov. Rick Perry received money from Merck for his reelection
    campaign in Texas
    - Perry's former Chief of Staff, Mike Toomey, is one of Merck's most
    powerful lobbyists for the state of Texas
    - There are no studies proving that Gardasil reduces cases of cervical
    cancer in women because they don't exist
    - A study on the effect of vaccine against HPV is simply not good
    enough to direct public health policy
    - The drug costs $360 per patient, and based on the foregoing, this is
    just another marketing scam by Merck
    - If this is what your "health agency" bureacrats like to call
    "evidence based medicine," tell them "no thanks."

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    Another marketing scam ...for sure!!...$360/patient...real sweet!

    However what else are they trying to do to young women and potentially their offspring??? Who really knows what is in this vaccine or any other?!?!?!?

    Legislate to vaccinate all "school age girls"?!?!....guess the female energy/essence is something they are really afraid of

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
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    Do you get the flu shot?

    Would you vote for mandatory vaccination of young women?

    What is the real MO behind vaccinations?
    No flu shot!

    Those who push mandatory vaccination should be shot.

    The real motive is very transparent - MONEY! And perhaps something more which I don't even want to think about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamalam View Post
    Alpha,

    This is a subject near and dear to me... I have been debating vaccination ever since my son was born. Do you know about www.thinktwice.com? It gives a tremendous amount of info and if you look to the right and scroll down, you'll see a link that discusses the flu vaccine.

    I opted not to give my son any vaccines until his immune system was more built up - and even then, only the most crucial vaccines, such as tetanus. To date, he has only had one injection (and that only last month).

    I'm going to do more research and limit his exposure as much as possible.

    Great subject!
    Kam, great site, thank you!!

    Ever since reading all the allegations against fluoride in our water and perhaps what the real intent of that was, it made me more suspicious of what both the government and pharmaceutical cartels are forcing down our throats and with what agenda.

    Then there are the rash of deaths of these microbiologists without explanation and the public for the most part buys the explanation or the story , if they even hear or read or care about it at all.

    I won't take them either and if my children were younger, I would be doing exactly what you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judee View Post
    No flu shot!

    Those who push mandatory vaccination should be shot.

    The real motive is very transparent - MONEY! And perhaps something more which I don't even want to think about.
    Yes Judee...I agree. The transparent part is difficult enough to digest, it's what the something more is that is more than frightening. With all the nano technology, the ability to target specific races, gender with biological agents, I am more than suspicious.

    This latest attempt to legislatively target all our young women is extremely alarming and frightening, not to mention their future offspring!!!!!

    Smacks to me of a mass campaign to manipulate and or control some element/s in the younger female species....in "plain" site as well :

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    In reference to Texas pushing the expensive three shot anti cancer vaccine
    onto its 6th graders I'm wondering how much money Rick Perry got from that
    drug company for his re-election.

    I'm opposed to pushing this mandate based upon the cost factor. If a government and its citizens believe its a benefit it should be provided
    at no cost.

    Now as a DES offspring I can honestly say I believe in this shot ... because
    I had way too much estrogen during utero that ultimately grew something that Sloan Kettering couldn't identify on my cervix.
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    Didn't Gov. Perry make this an "Executive Order?" {read: no debate?} Where's the emergency? Who in the hell does he think he is? If I was a Texan, I'd throw him out on his a**! {It reminds me of the "Lords" in feudal Europe who thought they had *rights* to the bodies of the young female serfs!}

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    Nope, no flu shots for me. I bulk up the Vitamin C and try to stay away from people who are sick.

    And that vaccine for "school age girls" scares the hell out of me. It seemed to come out of nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    In reference to Texas pushing the expensive three shot anti cancer vaccine
    onto its 6th graders I'm wondering how much money Rick Perry got from that
    drug company for his re-election.

    I'm opposed to pushing this mandate based upon the cost factor. If a government and its citizens believe its a benefit it should be provided
    at no cost.

    Now as a DES offspring I can honestly say I believe in this shot ... because
    I had way too much estrogen during utero that ultimately grew something that Sloan Kettering couldn't identify on my cervix.
    Topper et all....this gets more disgusting by the moment.....take a look at this!!

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    My February 8, 2007 column resulted in quite a few radio show invitations. During my appearance on Michael Baisden's show, several doctors called in to say the HPV vaccine was safe, it has been tested, and yes, they would get their daughters shot up. One mother who phoned into the show said her daughter has received the first of the three shot series and is now worried and doesn't know what to do. I could give her no advice because I'm not a physician, but she should be worried.

    On March 15, 2007, the bomb dropped on a cable network show which quickly made the Internet media; see full important column here. Diane M. Harper, a researcher who worked on this vaccine has revealed that it has NOT been tested on young girls and "worst case" scenario: increased cervical cancer rates.

    As I covered in my February 8th column, Merck needs cash badly. The lawsuits over another "safe" product of theirs, VIOXX, could bankrupt them and they know it; one verdict here. At between $320 - $400 per shot per girl in the U.S., then the world, you can see why Merck has spent millions buying the favors of members of the state legislatures. Now comes the truth from an individual who actually worked on this HPV vaccine and pray to God, enough parents get the truth in time. Stockholders of Merck need to bring down the boom on their CEO and others in that company for such irresponsible corporate shennanigans.

    While many of us have been trying to warn parents about this vaccine, competing against the propaganda 'happy ads' for Guardasil targeted at young teen girls on the stupid tube, we have also been urging parents here in Texas to get in the face of the state legislature to over ride Gov. Rick Perry's "mandate" to vaccinate the young guinea pigs, er, girls, in this state.

    Informed legislators in our state house, most parents themselves, also got up in arms over this blatant move by Perry to bypass the process and fulfill his obligation to Merck for their fat campaign donations. The result: A couple of days ago the house side of our legislature voted to rescind Perry's Executive Order (118-23).

    Next comes the Texas Senate and I encourage everyone in this state to call your state senator and tell them to vote to rescind Perry's EO. The next question remains is will Gov. Perry do the right thing? Stay tuned.

    In the meantime, watch out New Mexico. It appears your governor, Bill Richardson, has said he will sign a mandatory vaccine bill. Man those phones even if you have to do it at lunch time. Richardson's office number is: (505) 476-2200. Call your state rep and senator and let them know how you feel and tell them if they voted for SB 1174, they'll find themselves job hunting next election.

    Remember this: If your daughter gets those shots and ten years down the road develops cervical cancer, turns sterile or has a baby with defects, neither Richardson or your state legislator/senator can be sued. If Merck's still in business then, you might have an option.

    In my previous column, I pointed out Gov. Perry's press release where he came clean by stating, "Finally, parents need to know that they have the final decision about whether or not their daughter is vaccinated. I am a strong believer in protecting parental rights, which is why this executive order allows them to opt out." But, how many parents got that memo?

    Listen to the "news" on ABC, CBS, NBC and cable networks when they cover this issue. Without exception, they all refer to Texas' plan as "mandatory." Trust "mainstream media"? Hardly. However, as one reader pointed out, opting out isn't so easy, which is why the deceitful Gov. Perry made it opt out v opt in:

    Here are four reasons why "opting out" of sate mandated vaccines doesn't work for many families in Texas:

    1,) "Opt-out" or Conscientious Exemption to Vaccination Process is a Bureaucratic Nightmare

    To get the exemption form, parents must first submit a written form to State Health Department in Austin which forces the disclosure of the child's full name, birthdate, and mailing address. The Health Department takes those written requests and creates yet another form on which they print the child's same personal information that the parent had to send to health department, and the Health Department sometimes takes weeks to mail out these forms inevitably disrupting the child's school attendance. The Health Department only sends the forms by U.S. mail, and once the parent receives the forms, they must be notarized within 90 days of submitting them and then repeatedly resubmitted every 2 years even though there is no expiration set in statute.[1] Because the Health Department further eroded parental rights by publishing more rules getting rid of provisional enrollment for exemptions, (families used to have 30 days at the beginning of school to get their paperwork in), now schools participate in aggressive misleading education campaigns touting "no shots * no school" while not informing families of the exemption or the instructions how to obtain it.

    2, Private Schools Deny Admission

    The Texas attorney general issued an opinion in April of 2006, that states that private schools do not have to accept the conscience exemption to vaccination in Texas Law,[2] and many private schools do not. For example, the Dallas Diocese for Catholic Schools policy number 5024 states, "Schools will comply with immunization requirements established by the Texas Catholic Conference Education Department. Conscientious objections/waivers are not accepted in schools of the Diocese."[3] Every new vaccine mandate causes more children with valid legal exemptions to be denied their private school education.

    3, Doctors Refuse Medical Care

    Even though you may be able to get a piece of paper from the state health department affirming your right to refuse state mandated vaccines for your child, just try and find a doctor who will honor it! According to a recent study published in the Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, 39% of pediatricians surveyed said they would throw kids out of practices who are not vaccinated. [4] PROVE has documented this rampant problem of doctors dismissing families utilizing a vaccine exemption in Texas to the legislature in previous sessions. Please review our report entitled "The Erosion of Public Trust & Informed Consent through Immunization Harassment, Discrimination and Coercion" prepared for the House Public Health Committee in 2005.[5]

    4, Insurance Rates Rise and Accessibility Affected

    Responsible parents who have secured health care coverage for their children will be forced to pay higher insurance rates whether they want the HPV vaccine or not. Even if you "opt-out" of the HPV vaccine mandate for Gardasil by Merck by securing a conscientious exemption waiver, there is no way for Texas parents to "opt-out" of the corresponding rise in their insurance premiums. § 1367.053. (a) (2) of the Insurance Code REQUIRES that any vaccine required be law must be covered by insurance.[6] This first-dollar coverage requirement results in corresponding direct hiking of insurance premiums to meet costs, and for a vaccine as expensive as this one, an HPV vaccine mandate risks putting premiums for basic health care coverage out of reach financially for even more Texas families. Additionally, we have received complaints from families where insurance companies are harassing parents with letters and discriminating on coverage based on whether or not the child has had all their state mandated vaccines.


    Thank you, Dawn, for sending along the above information. I was aware of some of this nonsense, but not all of it as my daughter is 31 and thankfully, I didn't have to deal with this type of government tyranny when she was growing up. This is beyond an outrage. The parents of America should NOT have to endure this type of discrimination to protect the health of their children either by schools or doctors. The parents of this country should NOT have to go through these types of horse and pony shows because of corrupt politicians who claim "for the children!" Many will be too afraid not to get their daughter shot up because of the four areas detailed above. The ONLY way to send a loud, clear message to members of the state legislatures in all 50 states of the Union is for a massive backlash by parents. Tell them: get your hands off our children. We don't want a nanny state. You will NOT use my child as a guinea pig for the big pharma houses who enrich your pockets.

    The National Vaccine Information Center is a fabulous web site; they have a superb section on the truth about this vaccine. Use it as ammunition when you call your state rep, state senator and governor's office. Make your voice heard today. As for the difficulties in opting out, this must also be brought out when you make your calls. Parents should NOT denied medical treatment for their daughter's or slammed on premiums if they decide not to immunize their precious children with these dangerous vaccines. A word of advice: forget e- mails. Compose a short, precise letter and mail it to your state rep, senator and governor. They get tons of e-mail, but snail mail gets opened and read for distribution. Put it right in their faces or at least a phone call. We have more excellent members of state legislatures in this country than people realize, but there are too many who need to be reminded that we the people are our government. We are a people self governed. They are our public servants and they work for us, not the UN, Merck or any other special interest group who wants to buy their favors.

    Footnotes:

    1, Texas, Department of State Health Services: Exclusions from Immunization Requirements
    2, Attorney General of Texas
    3, Policy Handbook for Schools, July 6, 2006, Policy 5024
    4, WebMD, "Refuse Vaccine, Get 'Fired' by Pediatrician?" by Daniel Denoon, October 3, 2005WebMD, "Refuse Vaccine, Get 'Fired' by Pediatrician?" by Daniel Denoon, October 3, 2005
    5, Parents Requesting Open Vaccine Education: The erosion of public trust and informed consent through immunization harrasment, discrimination and coercion
    6, Insurance Code

    Resources:

    1. National Vaccine Information Center
    2. Devvy's Place (postings of radio appearances, speeches, legislation and edgy commentary)
    3. Short 3 minute free video on Google's Master Plan

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    Pharmaceutical executives should be forced to take every one of their company's vaccines...all at once!!!
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