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    All of the above have made for very interesting reading, but there are several things that i would like to clear up.
    First of all, Ellen Naomi Cohen, known to all as Cass Elliot did not choke to death on a ham sandwich as some cruel tabloid stated.
    She died of a heart attack brought on by years of morbid obesity and stress. She was 5 feet, 5 inches tall and at the time of her death, weighed 238 pounds. She had undergone several crash diets which weakened her heart and she died in bed in her hotel room in London on July 29, 1974.
    She is buried (under the name of Ellen Naomi Cohen) at Mount Sinai Memorial Park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Kundalini
    All of the above have made for very interesting reading, but there are several things that i would like to clear up.
    First of all, Ellen Naomi Cohen, known to all as Cass Elliot did not choke to death on a ham sandwich as some cruel tabloid stated.
    She died of a heart attack brought on by years of morbid obesity and stress. She was 5 feet, 5 inches tall and at the time of her death, weighed 238 pounds. She had undergone several crash diets which weakened her heart and she died in bed in her hotel room in London on July 29, 1974.
    She is buried (under the name of Ellen Naomi Cohen) at Mount Sinai Memorial Park.
    CK ....good point...however please do note that the article quoted stated:

    "The coroner's report was not conclusive. She "probably choked to death," but there was "a possibility of heart attack."

    Hardly doubt that Cass Elliot or Ellen Naomi Cohen was a huge threat to the PTB as others perhaps were in the music industry, nor do I beleive that she was a "pawn" in any "mind control" related strategy in her own right as others perhaps were.

    Nevertheless, she had a beautiful voice and her contribution to the M & P was exemplary and noted.....never liked her solo work much though....now mebbe a Laura Nyro wanna be??!!

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    I think that sometimes when we have an exceptional talent,they tend to get caught up in the surrealism of it to the point where they overlook their own basic needs on the physical,emotional, and spiritual level.Fame can carry a terrible price for those who are not prepared!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Beyond
    I think that sometimes when we have an exceptional talent,they tend to get caught up in the surrealism of it to the point where they overlook their own basic needs on the physical,emotional, and spiritual level.Fame can carry a terrible price for those who are not prepared!

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    You are quite correct, CB.
    I think John Lennon put it quite eloquently when he said this in an exclusive interview with David Sheff
    (with Playboy Magazine) about a month before John was taken from us.

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    Wow, this topic's been around for months but I just found it tonight...where was it hiding? Well done everyone, lot's of interesting reading and food for thought.

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    Mind Control In The Field Of Art

    Yeah it is scary to know what the PTB can to with the individual and collective brain and what and why they're doing what they do. In this case, the introduction of Rock and Roll and another MC tool?.....perhaps......


    MIND CONTROL IN THE FIELD OF ART
    by Per Sewen - Illuminati News


    Hollywood and the music industry are big mind control centers, used by the Illuminati to influence us in the ways that suit their goals. We have seen many great artists come and go through the years and as we think about it, they have influenced us quite a lot in different ways. We all have our favorites, who many of us "look up to" and admire. They are a big part of the childrens and teenagers lives. I have covered parts of the Hollywood business in other articles, but just as interesting is the music industry.

    In the book by Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler, The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave, the music industry (and the Country music in special) is loaded with artists who work as mind control programmers and many of them are mind control slaves with split personalities. They mention among many others Kris Kristofferson, Jerry Lee Lewis and Willie Nelson as being programmers, working for the Illuminati. And many artists are themselves programmed to be able to act in a way the Illuminati wants, to "spread the message".

    The rock industry programming started with Elvis Presley, who very likely was a programmed slave and who's programmer was his manager, Col. Tom Parker. The below excerpt is from the above book by Springmeier/Wheeler, chapter 12:

    "Many of the movies and shows use Monarch slaves as actors & performers: such as Rosanne Barr, Bette Mittler, Marilyn Monroe, Loretta Lynn, Crystal Gayle and possibly Wayne Newton (a child singing protege, who never wrote a check for himself in his life).

    They also use lots of slave handlers such as Frank Sinatra, Peter Lawford, & Bob Hope. And occasionally they use programmers such as Anton LaVey, Jerry Lee Lewis. Cisco, the co-author of this book, while in the Illuminati, was given repeated reason to believe that Elvis Presley was also a Multiple programmed by the Illuminati.

    We know that at times he went by code names, one which is publicly known was John Burrows. His group, called the Memphis Mafia, have talked about his ability to go into altered states of consciousness, even seem dead. Recently, another Illuminati slave, also stated that Elvis was an Illuminati slave.

    Cisco points out that Elvis’ twin brother was dead at his birth, and that Elvis knew that this gave him double spiritual power (according to Illuminati beliefs). The Illuminati will often kill a twin, so that the other will get the power of two souls. From what we understand, Elvis Presley’s handler/programmer was a Col. Tom Parker. Elvis belonged to a team of 4 Illuminati men. Elvis is publicly known to have studied yoga, numerology, drugs, and received some new age spiritual training in an academy overlooking Pasadena, CA. He was an active member in the Theosophical Society. After Elvis Presley supposedly died, the Sun International Corp. came out with an Elvis Presley album called Orion, with the winged-sun-disk on its cover. The winged-sun-disk is an important Egyptian magical symbol used by the OTO, Theosophical Society etc. Mae Boren Axton, known as the Grand Dame of Nashville, played a pivotal role in Elvis Presley’s life.

    Elvis & the Beatles were chosen by the Illuminati to introduce rock music to the United States. There is no doubt about Elvis’ and the Beatles’ musical talent. Elvis’ close friend Wayne Newton is highly suspected as also being a slave. Elvis worked with Burt Reynolds and Jerry Lee Lewis who also connect in with the Illuminati’s mind-control operations. The authors are puzzled why Elvis’ grave, which had millions of dollars spent on its security, has his name misspelled? We are also puzzled why Elvis, who repeatedly stated he wanted to be buried beside his mother, is buried beside his father, who he privately stated wasn’t even his real father. Why has no one ever tried to collect insurance on Elvis’ death?

    Once again, it seems, the front stories that the public hears are full of inconsistencies. We believe that some people in the Illuminati know the true story about Elvis Presley. For sure Elvis’ mysterious mind-control programmer/handler Col. Tom Parker would know."


    In Monarch Programming, the use of mirrors is a basic important tool for to make split multiple personalities. The mental mirrors, which are programmed into the victim, create thousands of alters (artificial personalities), which then can be programmed in whatever way the Illuminati programmer wants. Here are some more excerpts from the same book with regards to mirrors:

    ""The child must learn to match identical items very early--even before they can speak. This is so they will be able to build mirror images into their mind. All the senses are trained for building the mirror images; for instance such as silks and cottons can be used for the sense of touch" Chapter 1 page 12.



    "The elements that make up who a person is--i.e. personality elements such as memories, are fractured. These fragments have in turn often been built up into full-blown personalities with all the elements of full-blown personalities. There is no "real" person, just as if you smash a mirror into a thousand pieces, there is no single piece that is the "real" original mirror but rather simply fragments that can in turn operate as mirrors. However, there is still a primal self. Early splits are led to believe they are the core" Chapter 1 page 28.



    "Children are set in front of circus mirrors that make them taller or smaller for programming. They are set in front of mirrors which duplicate their image." Chapter 4 page 64.



    "pg. 90 Book 3 Ozma of Oz, "Princess Langwidere's sitting-room was panelled with great mirrors, which reached from the ceiling to the floor; also the ceiling was composed of mirrors, and the floor was of polished silver that reflected every object upon it. So when Langwidere sat in her easy chair and
    played soft melodies upon her mandolin, her form was mirrored hundreds of
    times, in walls, and ceilings and floor, and whichever way..." This is the
    mirror programming that has been done to so many victims! Chapter 5 page 112.



    "Mirrors, and lots of them, are important in occult programming because they make images. They create so many internal images one doesn’t know which way to go " Chapter 10.



    "The following format the words in italic are direct quotes from Lena Pepitone’s book which is entitled Marilyn Monroe Confidential An Intimate Personal Account, NY: Simon & Schuster, 1979.



    7 p.16- "Floor-to-ceiling mirrors were everywhere. Even the dining alcove at the rear of the living room had a table with a mirrored top. All these mirrors didn ‘t cheer things up." In programming Monarch slaves, mirrors are used a great deal. Within the Monarch slave’s mind, countless mirror images are made. The slave sees thousands of mirrors everywhere in their mind. Because Marilyn was so stripped of any personal identity, she decorated her house as her mind looked on the inside--full of mirrors. Although other Monarchs may have some desires to decorate with mirrors, Marilyn is the most extreme case I know of filling one’s house full of mirrors" Chapter 12. "


    With regards to this, it's interesting to read the lyrics of Jimi Hendrix, especially from a song called "Room full of mirrors". The lyrics go:

    "I USED TO LIVE IN A ROOM FULL OF MIRRORS
    ALL I COULD SEE WAS ME
    WELL I TOOK MY SPIRIT
    AND I CRASHED MY MIRRORS
    NOW THE WHOLE WORLD IS HERE FOR ME TO SEE
    I'VE GOT A WHOLE WORLD THAT'S HERE FOR ME TO SEE
    NOW I'M SEARCHING FOR MY LOVE TO BE

    BROKEN GLASS WAS FALLING IN MY BRAIN
    CUTTIN' AND SCREAMIN' AND CRYING IN MY HEAD
    BROKEN GLASS WAS FALLING IN MY BRAIN
    IT USED TO FALL ON MY DREAMS AND CUT ME IN MY BED
    IT USED TO FALL ON MY DREAMS AND CUT ME IN MY BED
    I SAID MAKING LOVE WAS STRANGE IN MY BED"


    Many rock musicians died around the same time: Brian Jones (Rolling Stones) who drowned in his pool(!); Mama Cass (The Mamas and the Papas); Jimi Hendrix; Janis Joplin; Jim Morrison (The Doors) and more. Cause of death was often overdosing drugs or as with the case of Jim Morrison, he died from heart failure in his bath tub(!). The story goes that Jim Morrison was involved in Project Monarch as well, due to Fritz Springmeier.

    I once read a biography on Jimi Hendrix, where it said that he didn't want to take the drugs, but was forced to do so by his manager(!). He soon became addicted. Drugs are heavily used in mind control. Seems like a common denominator that the artists are controlled and maybe programmed by their managers to create a certain effect upon the society. When Hendrix and Joplin were dead, Jim Morrison's manager told him that he, Jim, probably was the next in line ...

    Then Jim Morrison left the Doors and moved to France - maybe trying to escape from the insanity around him. But most likely, the Illuminati followed him and eliminated him. Could it have been a ritual murder? Was Jim more valuable to the Illuminati dead than alive? It seems like Jim had withdrawn from his band on the top of his career, probably to the dislike of his "superiors". Was he ritually murdered so he could live on as a myth? His girlfriend at the time was very confused after Jim's death (she was a heroinist as well) and some researchers suspect that she killed him. Was she programmed to do so? Her reactions after Jim's death to her own death a few years later is suspiciously similar to this of a Monarch slave. Her death is suspicious as well and may not have been "natural". Did she start remembering???

    Bob Dylan, one of our most admired song composers and poets, is tightly connected to Kris Kristofferson, who is a programmer with regards to Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier. In the 80's he also, after had become a Christian, was closely related to Billy Graham, who is a programmer as well and a 33rd degree Mason. Dylan's friends and associates have often witnessed how he shifts from one personality to another, though I have seen no data on him being a victim of mind control. If you as a reader have more data on Dylan, please e-mail me on truthseeker@post.netlink.se .

    It is possible that those musicians became dangerous to the Illuminati and therefore were killed. If they don't serve the purpose, they are useless to them and potentially dangerous, as they may reveal the secrets if they start to remember ...

    It's also known, thanks to former Illuminati programmed slaves who have succeeded to escape, that the Illuminati can pick a child, check for his/her talents, use that part for programming and create geniuses. This is by the way NASA works. Their computer programs are so extremely advanced and difficult to learn, that the computer programmers and users must have a photographic memory to be able to remember the programs. This is done by scarring the brain stem of the victim, an action which is known to create photographic memory - IF the operation is successful, otherwise the victim may die. Those people, who have had their brain stem scarred, are then taught by NASA how to control the computers.

    There are also other methods to create geniuses out of talents, and the Programmers use them all the time within the arts, military, science etc.

    Another typical thing, which is related to fine arts. A few years ago there was a documentary in Swedish Television about a famous young New York "painter", who sat bragging over glasses of whiskey about his art. Then he showed the viewers his gallery. Well in there, you could see about twenty painters creating HIS paintings(!). He looked at the finished ones and accepted them. Then he put HIS signature on the paintings, though he never himself created anything on it. Later he sold one of them for around $800.000. The real painters, who had created his work were nothing more than slave labour and had a lousy pay.

    This is an effect of the OTO-connected Andy Warholl, who finally destroyed fine art in the 60's with his so called pop-art. He said in an interview that "fine art (painting) is dead - this is the art of the New Era" (refering to his own art). He was a big puppet for the Illuminati Elite. By degrading the art they also degrade the human population.

    Picasso once said something to the effect that to be able to create a good "alternative" artform, you basically must be an exellent painter in a traditional way. He was sooo right, and if you look at his early works, you can see he was excellent in traditional painting. But his wise words seem to be forgotten and buried, unfortunately ...

    The Illuminati Elite has a total understanding of the brain, and it's scary to know what they are able to do and ARE doing ...

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    Much of this thread has focussed on recent "poplular" music..the implications perhaps....orchestrations etc.

    That said though, let's remember, that music, as an inlfluential element goes way back to the most primitive of tribes, even if that resonated in a more/most percussion element with the vibrations and powers of that venue.... the Gregorian chant and evolution of that venue and tonalities which eminated in root, from "organized religeon", then the greats of the Baroque beyond the Renaissance, which essentiallly was "commissioned" by either "Church" or State with Bach, Hayden, Beethoven, Corelli, etc. etc.......

    Guess my question is, is why was/is this venue so pivotal and critical??

    Why is it still a mainstay it seems of influencing "Pop" or timely culture today as it was yesterday?We

    Who /what/where/how?? Why does this seem to be such an instrumental and profound tool to guide, sway or even manipulate....then or now?

    Is it vibrational?...spiritual....rhythm, tone, beat changing tapping in to or influencing something innate or susceptible?????...or is it something more orchestrated, targetted with intent by the few that have some key...insight , knowledge tools or whatever.

    We can see the journey from the "primative tribal"....often wonder why artists such as Gabriel and Simon among with amy others go back to that etc........to Greg Chant through the seeming "history" of music.

    After Big Band, lots of realy great old and new jazz....there was Elvis, Holly, the Bopper, Chubby...the Folkies like Oaks, Mitchell, Collins, Nero....then, then ...then...Hendrix, Clapton, Anderson, Lennon/McCartney....too many to mention....then disco...Cobain....

    But then came Much music...where a new media channel told one what to think, what to feel..minimized most real artists if/when they had anything real to say..but then again mebbe they never did......don't beleive it but that's just counter point.

    So now we have Rap, Hip Hop and some other scarce good stuff, beyond Paris, Brittany and the next pop cultural mega stars....]

    Is this just now...was this the way it always was....before TV...before media?

    Were these artists that just wanted to share , enrich and tell their message? or were they pawns to grab and manipulate not only thought, culture and values therein, cause they were in on the big buck or controlled by something much larger??

    We now have Rap and Hip Hop....music?? or formula input.... getting us closer to a "Type One" Civilization or a propoganda tool?...think not.

    Guess mebbe this strategy is one of polarization and the manipulating both ego and the dumbing down of what is left of any global intelligence, thought or insight???

    But hey...what do I know??

    OK....was on a role...any thoughts????

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    The influence through sound and multimedia is there.

    Take it from a former road musician, it works in its own way without the tech gurus getting their little fingers in it and the corporate elitesd having there way promoting agendas and social issues through the media in all its forms.

    Music is a release and a natural yearning for the human animal, through vibrations and frequencies moods can be changed and almost auto mechanical muscular responses can be influenced throw in some layered lines of text filled with whatever and it is an effective tool when utilized in this way.


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    So, what does this music do to you?

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    Oh Kundalini how I have missed your personality abroad.


    It makes me want to get out my shades, slap on the hat and do my best Belushi white male singing the blues impression.

    Or perhaps it would...

    make me want to scream...


    "Alice Cooper, Alice Cooper"


    LOL!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jff
    The influence through sound and multimedia is there.

    ......................

    Music is a release and a natural yearning for the human animal, through vibrations and frequencies moods can be changed and almost auto mechanical muscular responses can be influenced throw in some layered lines of text filled with whatever and it is an effective tool when utilized in this way.


    jff
    Yeah I agree jff.....

    Think there are a mulitude of things at play within the aspects of mind control in music...not only the actual music itself, but the "social" engineers behind this genre.

    Perhaps these are two components of this endeavour:

    Sonic Mind Control = programming the INDIVIDUAL listener through unconsciously detected frequencies and other subversive "sounds" we don't actually "hear". This would be a physical phenomenon that would modify the brain chemistry or brain wave frequencies or whatever, but would eventually manifest itself as a "thought" or a "feeling" we wouldn't have "had" without the sonic stimulus, perhaps resulting in an action or an attitude....likely researched and validated.

    Is this what is may going on with techno, trance, and rave music? ( which I hate btw ) .....Some sort of Theta wave stimulation...?


    Social Mind Control = programming a TARGET GROUP of listeners through broadcast repetition and social conditioning to adopt a certain set of values, then encouraging actions and attitudes consistent with those values....ie Rap comes to mind here.....the Brittany Spears type creations to mold the attitudes, pop culture (fashion etc) and societal values of adolescents?

    This is the type of thing implied by the Aquarian Conspiracy, and the manipulation of the media by the NWO / Round Table Groups / Tavistock / Stanford, etc. etc.

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    Not sure why people think Rap is such a bad influence... I always smile when Rense gets on this subject... In fact, the whole degeneration of culture argument seems silly to me, our world has been corrupt and rotten far longer than the mainstream media system has existed.

    I understand Rap is outside of our generational experience, but I feel this is a case of our parents thinking our music was crap as well... and degenerating the youth etc etc etc....

    I mean if you want satanism in music, look at death metal, or don't if you are sensitive I never hear anyone complaining about Cannibal Corpse (great songs like 'edible autopsy', 'hammer smashed face' 'skull full of maggots' etc).

    Now, mind control.... yes, music can be used as a suggestion tool, and certain rhythms and tonal qualities can induce a trance like state, and can produce different brain wave activity based on different tempos and scales. However, compared to the power of the visual arts, I would say the power of music holds almost no comparison. I think the mind control in music stems exclusively from the marketing side of the music production system. This includes MTV and promos etc. Now, music in association with visual images can create a synergy that makes both more potent than they would be alone... Imagine the requisite spooky music in a film while a killer stalks their prey... now seperate the two, the images alone will never have as much impact as with the music, and the same goes for just the music, you would not associate it with the suggestion that is desired.

    So, yes, I think music can affect the mind, but the effect is untargetable... how do you implant a specific instruction? Backwards masking? Mentioning Satan? The bible mentions Satan more than any lyrics I have ever heard...

    Nobody would have paid much attention to the motley crew from Liverpool and the 12-atonal system of "music" that was to follow had it not been for an overabundance of press exposure. The 12-atonal system consisted of heavy, repetitive sounds, taken from the music of the cult of Dionysus and the Baal priesthood by Adorno and given a "modern" flavor by this special friend of the Queen of England and hence the Committee of 300.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atonality he is wrong, and has no clue about atonality it seems.

    If there is mind control in Rap let's say, what purpose do songs like 'Fight the Power' (public enemy) or 'Mosh' by Eminem serve (hey I can list a hundred other songs that are about empowering the individual or fighting an injustice)? I mean, what they are gonna have to kill these guys now? Why not just block production of the album? Isn't that little easier? Jimi Hendrix was unfortunately and unknowingly playing directly into the Agency's hands... Acid Dreams spells it out well..

    Are there top40 rap artists who sing about killing people and taking/selling drugs or demeaning women? Yes. Have there always been these types of songs? Yes (just off the top of my head, listen to 'Delia's Gone' by Johnny Cash). Are they for the most part remembered by history? Only on those 'hits of 2005' compilations that bars think are the ultimate thing to stock their jukeboxes with.

    In my opinion, nearly any band who makes it into the top 40 is crap, and is just marketing bullshat.

    Rave? Mind control in the same way that speed metal is... it releases endorphins and adrenalin. Can it or any other music put a specific picture in your head? Nah... but plenty of other mind control technologies can... Can music change your emotional level? Yes! So, again, want to make someone mad at something? Put dissonant music in association with an image of the target... Dissonant music alone may agitate you, but how will it possibly be directed when each of our brains will experience that music in a different way... The color blue means something to one person, something totally different to another. Experience shapes your perception, so how can there be similar widepread effects from an individually experienced sound? With consensus reality, visual perception can be counted upon to impress upon us a similar perception, but not so with music, which may have a deeper effect on us than visual stimulation, but I maintain is only usable for forming vague emotional responses...

    Obviously, this just my own take, I am not arguing persay, just have put some thought into this...
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    The majority of "control' through music is in the lifestyle and the social engineering dept as stated eloquently by alpha.

    I know, I've been there and done it.

    Look at the "fads" and the 'styles' and all of the marketing campaigns, endorsees...

    The footprints are everywhere in the sand.

    The trick and the elusive point of any discussion into this and any other conspiracy orientated topic is of course making a cast of that print and finding the match amongst the elite power structure and world banking cartels behind it all.

    Great discussion.

    Personally the "hip hop culture" to me is the agenda behind the music and not the music itself as it definitely reeks of social engineering and the evidence is all in the marketing.

    Another spin off of Malcolm's swindle 101, works every time in music, always has and always will.

    And as his effigies failed and fell prey to their own creation so do today's very slayable "giants" by their own hand or by the hand of the marketing fundie machine.

    On a brighter note, the "House of Hair" is music to my ears and one of the few programs I listen to other than C2C.

    Tells much on it's own doesn't it?


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