George Noory & the OTHER guy

[gormworm]

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This is a repost from the restricted “members only” folder.
The original discussion got into some personal stuff, .. and was wisely placed in the proper area for discussing personal stuff.

However, .. I’ve received quite a few e-mails & PMs requesting that I re-post this brief editorial in a place where everyone can read it.
...And so, here it is.

If you’ve all ready read this brief editorial, ... it’s now posted in a place where EVERYONE can read it, .. and anything you’d care to add to it (if you care add anything).

If you haven’t read it yet, ... here it is.

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The reason that I listen to Art Bell and George Noory is because of my personal interest in the subject matter that they discuss on C2C.

I’m grateful to both George and Art for doing what they do on Coast.

However, .. Art Bell and George Noory aren't the only folks who discuss this subject matter.

I'm not going to make a single dime doing this, of course, .. but I’ve begun posting the URLs to the web sites of other people who discuss Conspiracy Radio topics on their Internet streaming audio programs.

http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/s...ead.php3?t=752

Why am I doing this?

Because I'm sick and tired of reading posts from people who have nothing better to do with their lives than pee and moan about the simple fact that GOD didn't create George Noory as an exact duplicate of Art Bell, ... and Art Bell isn’t willing to be the full time host of Coast anymore.

You can get off on Noory bashing from now until the next millennium, and I seriously doubt that the Virgin Mary will suddenly come down from Heaven, envelop George in an unearthly glow, and perform the Holy miracle of transforming George into an identical Art Bell clone who will host Coast to Coast on weeknights.

I'm sorry if I sound a bit testy on this idea.

But when GOD, and “the Mother Nature of Life on Earth” created George Noory, ... George Noory was created in the image of George Noory ... and that's all there is to it.

Pissing and moaning and Noory bashing will not accomplish anything more than convincing other folks that you are nothing more than a tremendous pain in the ass who relentlessly posts sour grapes because you personally can’t stand the simple fact that the world is the way that it is.

Grow up.
Get over it.

If you don't like George Noory, .. listen to someone else.

http://imaginativeworlds.com/forum/s...ead.php3?t=752

When it comes to relentless Noory bashing, ... I have this mental image of a South Park style animated George Noory, ... held by his ankles by a message board Bully, ... with his head being endlessly dropped into a flushing toilet in a public school Boy's room, ... while the Bully's Punk first lieutenant stands by laughing and approving of the on-going, endless, animated torture.

Is this a fair image?

Constructive criticism is one thing.
Pointless, relentless Noory bashing that serves to useful nor productive purpose is something else entirely.

[Nemo]

I believe you have the impression I don't like listening to GN. I LOVE listening to him! It is very funny. And, it is a lot of fun to try to duplicate his magic on the forum. When Art said that George "gets it," it left me wondering what it is he gets. He isn't getting any in the lady department I don't think - judging from his flirtations. It's sort of a mystery to me, and I'm on the case to find out what I'm missing. Sort of like diagramming sentences. That is what I bring to the table.

My computer isn't near my bed, but my radio is. Plus I have the C. Crane four hour tape recorder attached to it. Only Premrat is big enough to dominate ALL air waves here. 'Coast' is the biggest and best program that such a huge corporation can give us....with a little help from the FCC. So, it MUST be important!!!!!!! AND, they are probably BIG ENOUGH to take a little commentary.

[gormworm]

Only Premrat is big enough to dominate ALL air waves here. 'Coast' is the biggest and best program that such a huge corporation can give us....with a little help from the FCC. So, it MUST be important!!!!!!! AND, they are probably BIG ENOUGH to take a little commentary.

Your point is well taken.

However, .. posting insults about George Noory on a non-Premiere Radio owned message board in the hopes that Premiere Radio will take notice is like standing out of doors and peeing into a 20 mile per hour wind.

The only person who is likely to notice how much asparagus you've eaten lately based on the stench from your urine saturated clothing, ... is you.
Anyone standing up-wind will most likely walk someplace far, far away, .. and try to ignore and forget the whole embarrassing incident.

I'm reminded of all of the hateful posts that I, myself, .. and a large number of other people, .. posted concerning Barbara Simpson's hosting of C2C programs.

Premiere Radio ignored all of it.

When Spike Mike began an e-mail writing campaign, ... pointing out to Premiere Radio folks that other hosts like Ian Punnett, Hilly Rose, and others drew a larger audience than Barbara Simpson did, ... things began to change.

The biggest criticism that most folks seem to have about the politics and tactics of Premiere Radio seems to be that it's only thinking about money that matters to them ... and not the value nor quality of the material that they present to us in C2C broadcasts and/or on their web sites.

I may not have that exactly right.
But that seems to be what I'm always hearing when Premiere Radio is being criticized as an entity.

My point is, ... personally attacking George Noory for being the way that he is
• does not communicate anything of substance to Premiere Radio that they will listen to
• only serves to hurt George's feelings (and makes him try harder to take the harsh criticisms in a constructive manner, ... much to his honor and benefit)
• makes the otherwise honorable Nemo sound like a bullying jerk.

From this humble worm's point of view, ... my suggestion to you, good Nemo, .. for what it may, or may not be worth to you, ... is to take the effort you're putting into kicking George around, .. and apply the same amount of time and effort into getting Premiere Radio to replace him with someone else.
Someone who has a proven track record of attracting a huge listening audience, .. and making money for a radio syndicate someplace.

Premiere Radio understands cash profits.

If anyone can prove to them that they stand to make more profits by dumping George Noory, and replacing him with a better cash cow, ... they'll do it in a heart-beat ... (or, at least, as soon as contractual agreements will allow).

I suspect that there really isn't anyone out there who can make more money for Premiere Radio than George Noory does, ... given the simple fact that Art Bell refuses to host C2C on a full time basis anymore.

For what it's worth, ... I've posted URLs for non-Noory Conspiracy Radio programs over in the Air Lock Chamber.

If you sincerely want to get Premiere to dump George, ... you've got my suggestion on what might be the best way to do it.

If you're nothing more than a pain in the ass Bully who needs to kick George around in order to somehow feel better about yourself and your lot in life, ... go right ahead with my blessing.

I don't have to read that Noory bashing garbage myself, ... and at the moment, .. America is a free country, .. and the Internet is an open forum.

Have fun.

[gormworm]

I believe you have the impression I don't like listening to GN. I LOVE listening to him! It is very funny. And, it is a lot of fun to try to duplicate his magic on the forum. When Art said that George "gets it," it left me wondering what it is he gets. He isn't getting any in the lady department I don't think - judging from his flirtations. It's sort of a mystery to me, and I'm on the case to find out what I'm missing. Sort of like diagramming sentences. That is what I bring to the table.

In other words, ... you enjoy attacking George Noory for "not getting it", ... and speculating on how lame you think his sex life is.

Okay, ... fine, ... whatever.

People who are genuinely confident about their own intelligence and sexuality don't need to indulge in relentlessly posting up that kind of self-defecating material.
But if you get off on it, ... that's fine with me.

I won't bother you any further about it.

[IWstudio]

This is getting out of hand... and is starting to look like a pesonal flame going on here. If it degrades worse I will Lock it with out a second thought.


Flaming members is against the rules and Gorm's words can in fact be taken as flaming another member... this can and will lead to serious backfire, more attacks back and forth. We are adults here, for the most part so let's straighten up and act the part. If any member is offended by my taking a stance on this issue, tough. I've been a member of many forums of all sorts and this type of post leads to trouble, hurt feelings, people feeling like they are being attacked and when a Mod or Admin allows this to happen it makes it like we don't give a damn about what goes on.

I do give a damn and I will not tolerate flame wars of any member: THIS Includes George Noory and Art Bell They are members here, if you wish to discuss in an adult manner their styles of hosting then do so, but personal attacks are not welcomed. Never have been.

I want to Appologize to Mr. Noory and everyone else who has been finding such posts as offensive, vulgar and casting a bad image upon us at Imaginative Worlds.

[gormworm]

This is getting out of hand... and is starting to look like a personal flame going on here. If it degrades worse I will Lock it with out a second thought.

In other words, ... you enjoy attacking George Noory for "not getting it", ... Okay, ... fine, ... whatever.... if you get off on it, ... that's fine with me.

I won't bother you any further about it.

Starting to look like a personal flame war going on here?

From what I wrote and posted, ... the discussion has obviously ended.

Flaming members is against the rules and Gorm's words can in fact be taken as flaming another member...

George Noory is a member here.

Have you taken note Nemo's OBVIOUS flame posts about that forum member?

'Sounds like a double standard to me.

But no matter.
I've said my piece on this topic.

I've been ignoring Nemo's posted discussions ever since he began personally attacking John Lear and George Noory at the other place.
For the most part, .. I’ve been doing exactly the same thing here.

My last post in this discussion would have been my final comment had you not spoken up.

I have been critical of George Noory's broadcast style both here and at the other place.
I felt it necessary to make it perfectly clear to everyone that my criticisms of George Noory have ALWAYS been posted with constructive intentions, ... and that I do not enjoy, nor indulge in Nemo's habit of relentless Noory bashing just for the pure joy and personal satisfaction of doing it.

gormworm ... over and out.

[gormworm]

I do give a damn and I will not tolerate flame wars of any member: THIS Includes George Noory and Art Bell They are members here, if you wish to discuss in an adult manner their styles of hosting then do so, but personal attacks are not welcomed. Never have been.

I want to Appologize to Mr. Noory and everyone else who has been finding such posts as offensive, vulgar and casting a bad image upon us at Imaginative Worlds.

Well said.

I retract my earlier criticism concerning "double standards".

[IWstudio]

Thanks Gorm, there are no double standards, I never appreciated any attacks on George or Art. I didn't mean to say I believe you were flaming but it can be taken that way by some members and I just feel it's best we try and get away from anything that can be taken as an attack upon a person... we're humans and being such we have flaws that make us take things in ways that were not meant.

Perhaps an anger management section is in need... I believe in there that anything can go, but to enter it or view it you would have to PM a mod or Admin for the password. What do you think?

[Illyria]

Excellent Idea..I need to complain about my neighbor who peeks in my windows...and my mail man who won't mail things for me

[IWstudio]

Anger Management is open, please PM a Mod or Admin for password.

[gormworm]

At the risk of sounding like I'm "brown-nosing", .... and maybe I am doing that just a little bit, ... in a very honest way ...
... The reason that I'm such an active member of this forum, is because of your relentless efforts to be open-handed and fair with everyone who participates in discussions here.

You have established the "members only" section as a place where people can openly discuss potentially hostile material in a "safe environment".
And we all ready have the Air Lock Chamber: "a place where anything goes".

In defense of Nemo's relentless Noory bashing:
George Noory is, .. after all, ... the host of Coast to Coast AM ...
The most listened to late night radio talk show in the world.

In relentlessly making personal attacks against forum member George Noory, ... Nemo is enjoying the same muck-raking activity that the writers, editors, and publishers of the trash tabloid magazines at the supermarket checkout stands have been doing to internationally renowned celebrities for decades.

I don't think it's necessary to censor Nemo for expressing his own personal opinion of such a world famous late night radio talk show host as the honorable George Noory.

If we don't like what Nemo has to say, ... we can simply ignore him.
I know I do.

George Noory seems to have the personal confidence and grace to READ the personal attacks posted against himself, ... and use the feedback in his relentless process of self-improvement.

Therefore, ... as insulting as Nemo's personal attacks are, ... the end result seems to be a positive one.

Go figure.

In any event, .. if you're thinking about starting up a "World Wide Federation of Verbal Wrestling" somewhere in this forum, ... a place where folks can break folding chairs over each other's backs, .. and kick each other below the belt as on-lookers cheer them on, ... I say go for it!

Personally, .. I don't think it's needed.
But it might prove to be fun anyway.

I've all ready said my piece on the subject of personal attacks.
There's too much stress in my life all ready.

I plan to retire to the Conspiracy folder, .. and continue digging into the Hollow Earth material.
Maybe we can convince George and Lisa to have Phil Plait on, ... telling all of us what drooling fools we all have to be to even entertain thinking about such mentally incompetent nonsense.
It would prove to be another highly entertaining C2C show.
Especially if future history proves the Earth to be hollow, .. and the scientific reality of it becomes common knowledge.

The Earth is ROUND and NOT FLAT?!
What mentally retarded rubbish!

[Captain Beyond]

Allright,who gets the first folding chair shampoo?

[Nemo]

For what it's worth. I am NOT offended by Gorm or anyone else and feel NO need to bash him or anyone. Frankly, I am IMMUNE to what people have to say about me and would probably be AMUSED with a 'Nemo Simulation' thread or other 'Nemo bashing.' I welcome it if anyone is interested. I have been seriously abused by REAL people who wanted to destroy me, so I am big enough and old enough to not get too excited about posts on a message board.

My comedy input is the 'comical stylings' of 'Noory Simulations.' I am the father of such posts. They are funny and insightful. If they uncover something useful to George, he can take note and adjust. If they are just rubbish and irrelevant, he can easily laugh them off.

I will continue to post 'Noory Simulations' at any forum that welcomes my comical stylings. If you do not want them here, I'll take them elsewhere. The only reason I am here anyway was to help you get this forum off the ground. It's your decision.....