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    Smoking

    Well, today, I finally lost my resistance and bought a smoker. After trying to smoke meat, veggies on my gas grill, despite what Rob Rainford ( License to Grill) and others say, it's not working the way I want it too.

    Right now I'm looking at the box of this smoker....more than partial assembly required , looking at my expensive bags of mesquite, applewood, sugar maple chips.
    Do any of you smoke stuff?

    If you do, what do you use? For those who need a reference, here's a pretty good one for my first attempt at looking at this.

    Have any of you used "birch"? I have a bunch of logs in my garage.

    Why shredded wood is a better smoke flavor enhancer

    Wood shreds are an innovative use of natural wood. When shreds are used, much more wood surface is exposed to heat to produce smoke as compared to chunks or chips. Wood shreds will yield a more intense smoke more quickly which seals the food, locking in natural moisture and adding smoke flavor exactly when it's needed.
    The normal way of using wood smoking chunks or chips is to soak them in water and place them on the coals. Once they catch fire, some smoke is released that flavors the meat on the grill. However, shredded wood is better in that more wood surface is exposed to heat, producing a more intense smoke in much less time. If you're going to be smoking meat for a longer period of time, simply use two pouches, one with dry shreds, the second pouch with shreds that have been soaked in water for 20 minutes. The dry shreds get things going right away, while the wet ones give you the legs to go the distance, adding more moisturized smoke during the longer cooking times.
    Shredded wood is much more economical than traditional chunks or chips, too. Because a more intense smoke is released from the pouch, much less shredded wood is needed to produce better results. The cost per use is much less for wood shreds than any other form of smoking wood chips.
    How To Use Shredded Wood For Smoking

    Wood burns when heated. If you starve wood of oxygen when you heat it, it smokes rather than burning to ash. Wood shreds sealed in an aluminum foil pouch will produce an intense smoke that will flavor just about an steak, burger or poultry you place on the grill.
    A pouch made of heavy duty aluminum foil with just one very small hole in one side works great to provide smoke in just about any outdoor cooker. To make the foil pouch, cut a piece of heavy duty aluminum foil 6" by 12" and fold in half making a 6"x6" square. Fold the side edges at least twice, pressing each fold firmly along the entire side. Put 1/2 of a cup of shredded wood in the pouch and fold the top to seal. Poke a hole in one side of the pouch with a toothpick or saftey pin.
    Place the pouch on top of your charcoal briquettes or above the gas flame. When the smoke starts coming out of the hole in the pouch, put your food on the cooking grate and close the cover of your cooker. Smoke should last up to 30 minutes depending on the temperature of your cooker. Remember, one small hole is all you need.
    For best results, soak your wood shreds for 20 minutes in water, shake excess water off before placing in the foil pouch.

    Types of wood for smoking

    Cherry - beef, burgers, pork, poultry, fish


    Apple - lamb, pork, poultry, fish


    Maple - pork, poultry, fish


    Oak - beef, burgers, lamb, poultry, fish


    Pecan - beef, burgers, lamb, pork, poultry, fish, game


    Hickory - beef, burgers, pork, poultry, fish


    Mesquite - beef, burgers, lamb, pork, poultry, fish


    Dogwood - beef, burgers, pork


    Oak - Heavy smoke flavor--the king of smoking wood. RED OAK is good on ribs, WHITE OAK makes the best coals for longer burning. All oak varieties reported as suitable for smoking.


    Pecan - Sweet and mild with a flavor similar to hickory. Tasty with a subtle character. Pecan is an all-around superior smoking wood. A mellower version of hickory.


    Hickory - Sweet to strong flavor. Probably the most commonly used wood for smoking.


    Mesquite - Strong earthy flavor, one of the hottest burning smoking woods.
    Cherry - Mild and fruity. Some say the cherry wood is the all-around best wood for smoking.


    Apple - Very mild with a subtle fruity flavor, slightly sweet.


    Maple - Delicate with a hint of sweetness, maple produces a mild and mellow smoke that imparts a sweet flavor that is traditional for smoking ham. Also good with poultry, pork, and seafood.


    Dogwood - Medium smoke flavor, mixes well with fruity woods.
    Useful Tips for smoking meats on your BBQ grill

    Your barbecue grill can also be used as a smoker by using a smoke box and aromatic wood shreds. There are two approaches to take, depending on what you are grilling.



    One is to mix equal parts dry and wet shreds, soaked in water or wine for at least 20 minutes, together. This works best for chicken, ribs, roasts or anything that will be cooking for more than 20 minutes. The dry shreds get things going right away, while the wet ones give you the legs to go the distance, adding more moisturized smoke during the longer cooking times.


    For grilling steaks, fish or anything that will be on the grill a relatively short amount of time, use dry shreds only in a foil pouch. This will maximize the smoke flavor acquired by the food during the short amount of time it is on the grill.


    A pan of water placed on the grill during long periods of smoke cooking will not only help keep the food moist, but will help maintain lower cooking temperatures as well.


    When smoking, low temperatures (between 200° and 250°F) and longer cooking times will result in more intense smoke flavor and also more tender meats. Always use a meat thermometer to ensure meat has cooked all the way through to the right temperature. Smoke flavor that is created by a selection of wood shreds is usually a matter of personal preference. Some people will even create a blend of several flavors to satisfy their own preference.


    Never grill or smoke over woods such as cottonwood, willow, pine, or poplar. These woods are high in resins and are unsuitable for grilling or smoking meats.

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    Oh, sorry. I thought this was about something else.



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    Me, too, Delphs. Me too. Sigh.
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    Alpha - I am so excited for you!!! I have wanted a smoker for years now. From what I know about them, you have to be really patient. The best meats are smoked for hours and hours. Did you get a Big Green Egg???? Those are pretty incredible.

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    Just ran across this thread. This is what I use. Mostly with just mesquite charcoal. Home made and works great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delphine View Post
    Oh, sorry. I thought this was about something else.

    me too...

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    ....well those of you who thought this thread was about something else can always start a thread about the "other " type of smoking

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    Quote Originally Posted by whskyfan View Post
    Just ran across this thread. This is what I use. Mostly with just mesquite charcoal. Home made and works great.

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    That looks like one mean machine whskyfan

    Do share some of your recipes with us sometime please.....

    What do you like to smoke the best?....this kind of smoking

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    My favorite is what is known as tri-tip here in California. I understand it is known as a brisket in other parts of the country. I marinate them in lemon juice for a couple of hours then season them with salt, pepper and garlic. Never have been much on a lot of seasoning. I rely mostly on the smoke from the fat on the meat for flavor.

    I've put a lot of different things in this barrel, but beef seems to be the best.

    I love "alternative" cooking. Got another device I use. If I can find the pics I'll post it a little later.

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    Found it. An old truck brake drum and a disc blade, the desert wok. Need to get some use out of this again soon.

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    A couple of big aged rib steaks with the fat trimmed and cut into small pieces. Cut up the fat and heat in the wok over some nice dry grape vines 'til it smokes and throw in some bell pepper and onion. Then toss in the meat, when done (about 30 seconds), serve in a flour tortilla. Actually best for the cooler months of the year , grape vines burn HOT. Not exactly a heart healthy meal, but damn it's good!

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    That's an awesome cooker whskyfan!!!
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    That's more than cool whskyfan

    I've never seen anything like it before WOW!! Thanks for sharing that.

    I've done beef brisket in the smoker before as well...it does turn out great...so does pork butt or shoulder

    Last year I did a small turkey.....that also turned out great.

    I usually season or use a rub...then have a mop to baste during the process, depending of what type of meat I'm smoking.

    I also like to put some aromatics in the water bowl....like onion, garlic, herbs ...sometimes some apple .....it gives the meat a nice flavour along with the flavor of the wood one uses.

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