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    Is the Christian idea of "you reap what you sow" not just another form and way of expressing the idea of Karma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradigm Shift View Post
    Is the Christian idea of "you reap what you sow" not just another form and way of expressing the idea of Karma?
    Sort of. But with the Christian idea, there is 'someone/something' waiting to punish you and fling you into the 'fires of Hell' for eternity. With Karma, there is no punishment - just learning and repeating classes until you 'get it' and then advance. Two different philosophies really...
    "Happiness can only come from inside of you and is the result of your love. When you are aware that no one else can make you happy, and that happiness is the result of your love, this becomes the greatest mastery of the Toltecs: the Mastery of Love." ~~don Miguel Ruiz~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
    We're all one. Lots of people/spiritualities/religions/ideologies/whatever believe that. And so we experience it all. Sometimes we're the victim, sometimes we're the persecuter. Sometimes it feels like karma and s/he's (or I'm) just getting what they deserved. And sometimes we see that 'the other' is us. So we keep having these experiences until we see it's all the same. and we're all the same. and we forgive. not for them - but for ourselves. which is them.
    More than well said sunshine...thank YOU and I agree


    ...yes, so often the "other" is "us"...that is what I think we fail to comprehend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradigm Shift View Post
    Is the Christian idea of "you reap what you sow" not just another form and way of expressing the idea of Karma?
    Why does it have to have a "label"?...and good grief, why does it have to be based on "Christian Doctrine"?????

    Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, Native, Pagan, Muslim or any other?...why does any of that matter?

    Why does that even enter in to our perception or thought?

    What about Global Humanity and the Golden Rule?

    I really don't think "The Creator" or the Cosmic Force or whatever wants to call it, cares about how one "worships"...if they eat or don't eat meat on Friday, whether they eat pork or don't, whether they go to church, temple, mosque, the forest....when or how they "pray" ...

    It really is very simple..."do unto others, as you would have them do upon you"....have good intent, love, understanding and acceptance in your soul for those who are "different" from you. Seek to understand, before you seek to be understood.

    It's really very simple, IMHO....it's all about intent of the individual and what they do with that and the universal and most powerful energy of LOVE....for all...whether you agree or disagree.

    Organized Religion, IMHO, is just another MC tool...and sadly it works very well to polarize and divide.

    We will never get beyond this as a global humanity, if we can't see beyond this...which I know most here do....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judee View Post
    Sort of. But with the Christian idea, there is 'someone/something' waiting to punish you and fling you into the 'fires of Hell' for eternity. With Karma, there is no punishment - just learning and repeating classes until you 'get it' and then advance. Two different philosophies really...
    Excellent point Judee.

    Then there is the Hindu philosophy that one must experience all there is to experience before one can reach Nirvana...and one's karma will influence the experiences to be had until the state is realized or achieved....therefore learning vs punishment in a sense, as you state

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradigm Shift View Post
    Is the Christian idea of "you reap what you sow" not just another form and way of expressing the idea of Karma?
    America is now responsible for more deaths in Iraq that So-dammned ever planned.
    If you were an Iraqi, no matter what political persuasion, wouldn`t you be killing Americans simply because they`re there??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judee View Post
    Absolutely Div! I believe that also! Which is why life can feel so darn unfair and horrible at times. We're all travelling together on this little planet, and we're all learning together. When we all learn to live in positive energy, then those starving children will cease to exist.
    The way I see it is that, we are all given free choice in how we deal with our fellow man; we are here to learn lessons; Karma ties into it in the type of life we are put in... Those children might be put there for Karma - however - we have a choice in how we deal with them... whether we turn the magazine pages so as not to see the pictures or turn the channel so as not to see them in real life... or, do we try to help in whatever way we are able... send a few dollars to an organization that is there to help them. What we do and how we do it is part of the lesson, which will be part of our Karma depending on how we have evolved and learned the lesson...

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    "Lord Keep your arm upon my shoulder, so I can keep my mouth shout"

    Blah Blah Blah, Karma ... your not going to suck me into posting ... you know I'm not going thru this again with everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    Blah Blah Blah, Karma ... your not going to suck me into posting ... you know I'm not going thru this again with everyone!
    Within this universe (and possibly all others too) an equilibrium, an equal balance, in all things, is ultimately maintained. There are just as many positive numbers as there are negative numbers, always just as much up as there is down, as much ying as there is yang, and just as much love as there is hate ~ to go around and around. Ultimately, it all MUST balance out, and if not in just one lifetime, then I consider that a clue that there must be more. Many. Kick a dog, become a kicked dog. Karma. A starving child may have been cruel to children in a previous life. Who can say for certain? Yet, it certainly does appear all things must ultimately balance and equal out. Karma is that force that monitors and maintains that balance. Try it ~ kick a dog in this life and see what it will get you in your next. Go ahead, try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinorumus View Post
    Within this universe (and possibly all others too) an equilibrium, an equal balance, in all things, is ultimately maintained. There are just as many positive numbers as there are negative numbers, always just as much up as there is down, as much ying as there is yang, and just as much love as there is hate ~ to go around and around. Ultimately, it all MUST balance out, and if not in just one lifetime, then I consider that a clue that there must be more. Many. Kick a dog, become a kicked dog. Karma. A starving child may have been cruel to children in a previous life. Who can say for certain? Yet, it certainly does appear all things must ultimately balance and equal out. Karma is that force that monitors and maintains that balance. Try it ~ kick a dog in this life and see what it will get you in your next. Go ahead, try it.
    "Happiness can only come from inside of you and is the result of your love. When you are aware that no one else can make you happy, and that happiness is the result of your love, this becomes the greatest mastery of the Toltecs: the Mastery of Love." ~~don Miguel Ruiz~~

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    what I have noticed about my karma is it does come back around .even if it takes years Karma will come back to bite you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ropgers2710 View Post
    what I have noticed about my karma is it does come back around .even if it takes years Karma will come back to bite you.
    Hello ropgers2710 and WELCOME!!

    I'd love to hear more about how that manifests for you and how you have concluded it is karmic vs something else

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    I am so weary of School. Looking back, I can really see how each and every day of my 57 years on this Planet and Plane has been "Education" and "Lessons".
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