Egyptian Artifacts support Manipulative ET infiltration of human society

[Divinorumus]

Time Travel: Egyptian Artifacts support scholarly testimony of oppressive Manipulative Extraterrestrial infiltration of human society through militarism
Saturday 29. Dec 2007
by Peter Tremblay

Photos taken of ancient hieroglyphics on different visits by individuals to Egypt, distinctively show a military-looking helicopter, an aeroplane, a submarine, and even some kind of alien spacecraft. Photos which accompany this article, were further documented to have been taken in 1996 and 1997. (refer to link for photo and entire longer article)

The glyphs suggest that Extraterrestrials have shown an interest and have demonstrated the capability to rule over humanity. The glyphs also suggest that similar technologies today, that apparently existed thousands of years ago, may have originated from a similar source. Indeed, Dr. Michael Salla has suggested the current existence of military-industrial-extraterrestrial complex that has access to “exotic technologies” which include time-travel. If these technologies existed thousands of years ago, wouldn’t time travel by a related group account for the re-introduction of the same technologies?

Retired NATO Commander, Rhodes Scholar, and four-star general Wes Clark -- who made a late October 2003 entry in the 2004 U.S. Presidential race following a successful draft campaign -- made comments in reference to "time travel" as an important area of research that was quite attainable. Perhaps according to scholarly testimony like Dr. Salla, and other researchers of UFO phenomenon, such technology has already been developed (LINK).

Bill Hobbs further records that Clark said on the U.S. Presidential campaign trial, that he thinks that time travel is possible and that it will be accomplished. And he strongly implied that as president, he would openly allocate federal money to develop it. (LINK) Indeed, if such an "exotic technology" was already developed, then the elites who presided over any such technology would be able to evaluate the American public's reaction to such information.

Could time travelling manipulative extraterrestrials that presided over the destruction of previous human civilizations, use time travel as a means of selectively seeking to influence sentient races at different stages of the technological development of various planetary civilizations?


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[blackeyes]

Humanity has been here many times in the past. The aliens come, witness the anarchy and clean up the mess afterwards. Start over again. They help us rebuild but I hope they take out the bad people because I want the 1000 years of tranquility.

[Divinorumus]

Human farming. Now please, keep your flavors segregated and stop interbreeding. Such mixing devalues your fair market and taste value, ha. Keep them borders and fences up, okay? And stop trying to infect yourselves with all kinds of diseases - doing so won't render yourselves worthless. The reptilians can still use ya'll as pet food or fertilizer or furnature.

[Delphine]

It COULD be true...if they're GREEN....

[Alpha]

Interesting article Div


The glyphs suggest that Extraterrestrials.....


















I've always enjoyed Salla's work.

There are many excellent articles worth reading at his site Exopolitics

Specifically his breakdown of alien races and motivation:

A Report on the Motivations and Activities of Extraterrestrial Races – A Typology of the Most Significant Extraterrestrial Races Interacting with Humanity

[TopHats]

It COULD be true...if they're GREEN....

[SquidInk]

The aliens come, witness the anarchy...

Where is the anarchy?

[Judee]

Dr. Salla further reveals that apparent Manipulative Extraterrestrials (in contrast with socially responsible and Ethical Extraterrestrials) have sought to introduce military technologies through ego and greed driven elites, that have literally sold their soul to gain access to these technologies. Dr. Salla indicates that Manipulative Extraterrestrials having exploited short-sighted human elites, have instigated a "range of systemic global problems."

Indeed, if there are, for example, baseball and football players as well as track and field stars, who are willing to sell out their personal health by taking steroids in order to get more money and in their apparent view, "more glory, just think how many corrupt human politicians, in turn, would be correspondingly willing to similarly sell out their soul to manipulative aliens in their quest for their sought prize of short-sighted planetary power.

Dr. Salla's further documents alleged interactions between Manipulative extraterrestrial races and empire-driven human elites as having "reached agreements with, and even collaborated in a number of joint projects."

Div, you are talking my language with this article! Wonderful!

I have high respect for the work Dr. Salla is doing in trying to expose the truth about the ET/UFO subject. The government has made the subject of UFO's one of ridicule for a reason. One has to ask themselves why this is so? Why has the government gone to such great lengths to besmirch the subject, if indeed there is nothing to it. Kind of like why they had to make the documentary, "Why The Towers Fell." As an avid student and fan of Sitchin, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the earth has been 'visited' for a very long time, by other worldly beings. The evidence is all around us, in museums, in libraries, and in yet to be discovered places. Humans have purposely been made blind to this fact, in order to keep them from knowing the truth about themselves, and about the real potential and power that is right within their own selves. I think we are being used in ways that are in comprehensible to the average person. People are afraid of even thinking thoughts of things like this, out of fear of being labeled crazy, or out of fear of it being considered evil. I don't know why it is so hard for some to believe that we are not the only living beings in this unfathomably gigantic Universe! I simply cannot understand how some people could think so!

[Judee]

By the way Alpha, I absolutely LUV your new avatar!!!!! Very beautiful!

[maryals]

Very interesting, and perhaps those Manipulative ETs have returned oh, 50 years ago or so and are still at work today. Perhaps they have manipulated all us Humans and our History to provide gory, gladiator type entertainment, on which they place bets.
Seriously...

Mary and Bessie

[earthist]

This is yet another of those things, like Roswell, that may or may not be true. Everyone agrees it's a palimsest, but not everyone agrees as to what that does to its relevance and veracity.

Here's a sample debunking:

I have thoroughly debunked that palimpsest in other places. Once this thread is moved to its appropriate forum (Pseudodscience), perhaps I'll repost that debunking.

Edit: what the hell... I'll re-post it here:

There's a very good explanation that we archaeologists understand very well: a palimpsest combined with pareidolia. This palimpsest pops up from time to time. What we see here isn't a single inscription but two or three. As different pharaohs took over, they frequently had inscriptions updated with a very simple method that 'erased' the previous inscription: they had their scribes fill in the old script with plaster and inscribe a new one.

The original, un-retouched palimpsest is here:

http://www.catchpenny.org/images/abydos5.gif

Here's an overlay of the two, and possibly three, different text layers. Each layer is translatable and has context.

http://www.catchpenny.org/images/abydos3.gif

This is the text in it's context with the pharaoh's cartouche to the left.

http://www.catchpenny.org/images/abydos4.gif

What the original text says is, "who repulses the Nine Bows" and the text that replaces it says, "who protects Egypt and overthrows the foreign countries." These are called titularies, or naming conventions of important people, in this case pharaohs. Specifically, the pharoahs in question are Seti I (for whom the first titulary of the palimpsest was dedicated to) and then his son and successor Ramesses II (for whom the second titulary of the palimpsest is dedicated).

The plaster of the palimpsest was eroded, probably by water leaking in through the ceiling. Notice, in the OP's first image the damaged ceiling and the direction of the damage is consistent with the eroded area of the palimpsest.

There are no "flying machines" in Egyptian antiquity. Sorry to disappoint the significance-junkies out there. But the mystery-mongers need not fret because the intricacies of the hows and whys of dynastic politics in Egypt's antiquity are many and little understood.

http://www.sciforums.com/Abydos-Helicopter-t-65746.html
(read Skinwalker in particular)

And here's a debunking of the debunker:

Egyptologists have identified at least two sets of overlapping hieroglyphics in this picture. So, what we see is a palimpsest, something that never was intended to be seen like it is now. It used to be that only one set of hieroglyphs had been visible, first one then the other. Then the plaster fell out of the stone. (click image right)

What could rival such solid science?



Secret Science

Solon, Plato, Pythagoras, and other Greeks went to Egypt as the place to get the very best education. Back in Greece, they spoke of the secrets of the Egyptian Temple. Pythagoras taught novelties - the Golden Section, and what is now known as his triangle. Having left no writings, he staked no claim to discoveries attributed to him in later times.


By Ockham’s Razor, the simplest explanation would be that Pythagoras, who reached the top echelon of the Egyptian Temple, had unlimited access to all its secrets - like the Golden section. He left no writings, because he disseminated his knowledge in secret - to selected initiates. It is patently obvious that this mode of behaviour is his legacy from the Egyption institution. A mathematician hardly ever wishes to keep his achievements secret.


Due to their discretion, Pythagoreans are tabbed as a cult. The distinguished keepers of knowledge get slammed for preserving the secrets of the Egyptian Temple for us. Egypt had a religion, and the Pythagoreans were its extension in Greece, like Solon, and like Plato. These men founded academies and disseminated knowledge. Therefore, dubbing them cultists is unjust if not malicious.


Granting the possession of secrets by the Egyptian Temple, why should some of those not be perpetuated in enigmatic scenes created out of hieroglyphical Lego?

Our Abydos inscription holds one crucial ingredient - the secret of the Golden Section, to which Egyptology is so steadfastly oblivious. Suppose, we can show this fact to be true - Why the secret geometry? It guarantees and dignifies the scene of the Abydos Helicopter, by endowing it with the unalterable logic of the Golden Section, thus making it the opposite to the concept of chaotic palimpsests.



Reconstruction

Can anyone just fire up a CAD program, and recreate the area under the helicopter in its exact main proportions from memory?

Absolutely, this engraving follows a general case from Geometry.

The layout of the area of what is known as the Abydos Helicopter is a study on the basic Golden Section, with emphasis on Golden Rectangles as products. All objects are in the required proportions, and repose in defined positions:

The rest is at:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/eg...s/abyhelic.htm

Look and decide for yourself.

[DorieTesla'sMom]

Dang Cosmic Meddlers Anyhow!

I believe the ultimate temptation for a human is going to be immortality, or a greatly expanded life span. Some of those rich old guys would sell out to Satan, or Reptilian Slavers, just for the chance to stay in the game a little longer.


Hmmmm-story idea- rich corrupt tycoon type manipulates market, makes a bunch of money playing commodities, but millions die in a famine. ("They" want to reduce the population). The old crook fakes his death , but the aliens reward him with "rejuvenation" for his loyalty. Having left his fortune to a "nephew", comes back young and strong and ready to run his Empire....only to find that the remnant of humanity is being loaded onto slave ships to go build pyramids in another part of the galaxy.

[earthist]

Dang Cosmic Meddlers Anyhow!

I believe the ultimate temptation for a human is going to be immortality, or a greatly expanded life span. Some of those rich old guys would sell out to Satan, or Reptilian Slavers, just for the chance to stay in the game a little longer.


Hmmmm-story idea- rich corrupt tycoon type manipulates market, makes a bunch of money playing commodities, but millions die in a famine. ("They" want to reduce the population). The old crook fakes his death , but the aliens reward him with "rejuvenation" for his loyalty. Having left his fortune to a "nephew", comes back young and strong and ready to run his Empire....only to find that the remnant of humanity is being loaded onto slave ships to go build pyramids in another part of the galaxy.

That would make a great story, DTM. I love it!